Linux-Misc Digest #686, Volume #20 Fri, 18 Jun 99 13:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Jeff Shern)
Strange warn messages under SuSE Linux 6.1 and Kernel 2.2.7 (Kai Schnabel)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks ("J.R. Chaffer")
problem: ld cannot open crtbegin.o (Christoph Ruch)
OK, Whats wrong with this kernel configuration??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Shutdown (Alex Lam)
Re: Fat32 Conversion - Suicidal or OK? (Leonard Evens)
Re: Linux systems- Poor security (Scott Lanning)
Re: Netscape Composer Crashes with RH 6.0 (Chris Brown)
Kernel errors? (Stewart Honsberger)
Re: Red-Hat - Linux? (David L. Bilbey)
Re: FIPS installation problems----Help! (Bernie Borenstein)
Portal for Linux (Alessandro Bruciamonti)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Aaron Baugher)
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From: Jeff Shern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:01:19 -0600
> >
> >DOS was part way there, indeed some non MS versions of DOS
> >were multi-tasking. And for that matter Concurrent CP/M was
> >also multi-tasking...
>
> Yeah, I remember double-DOS. Anyone here ever been subjected to Pick?
Double dos, that sounds farmiliar.. Did it have like 3 screens you could jump
between?
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From: Kai Schnabel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Strange warn messages under SuSE Linux 6.1 and Kernel 2.2.7
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:12:49 +0200
Hi folks,
SuSE Linux 6.1, Kernel 2.2.7
/var/log/warn tells me:
--cut--
Jun 17 17:46:37 berlin modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
block-major-48
Jun 17 17:46:37 berlin last message repeated 7 times
Jun 17 17:46:37 berlin modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
block-major-72
Jun 17 17:46:37 berlin last message repeated 7 times
Jun 17 17:46:37 berlin modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
block-major-48
Jun 17 17:46:38 berlin last message repeated 7 times
Jun 17 17:46:38 berlin modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
block-major-72
Jun 17 17:46:38 berlin last message repeated 7 times
--cut--
I found no aliases under /etc/conf.modules to these blocks ...nor any
hint on the Suse-Support-Database....
I just found the hint to change the /etc/conf.modules alias and to
remove the /lib/modules/2.2.5/misc/serial.o file to prevent the double
load of the serial-device support in the 2.2.5-Kernel with the ugly
error messages at boot-up...
But what the heck is this blck-major-48 and ..-72 stuff?
I configured the kernel, compiled it with loadable module support with
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
and
make bzlilo
Any suggestions? More details? He made this errormessage just once and
than not again..but I am interested in the meaning of this message...
Greetings Kai
--
Kai P. Schnabel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])| Reformstudiengang Medizin,
http://www.charite.de/rv/reform/ | Humboldt Universitaet zu
Berlin
Tel.: +49 30 450-76112 FAX: -76912 | *Linux for IQs higher than
95*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:36:43 GMT
> >You seem to be taking a rather sinister view of all this.
> > Do you think that it might be possible that MS programmers
> > are just lazy?
>
> I can't wait to hear your explanation for why the DR-DOS
> detection code was stealthed and encrypted.
Because MS programmers are too lazy to just write code in a manner that
is easily detected. Unfortunately for them, Andrew S. is far from
lazy.
If anyone wants to know why OJ Simpson is enjoying a nice game of golf
today, read this thread.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "J.R. Chaffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:39:08 -0700
I wonder if Gabriel is now guilty of a "hate crime" - inviting
violence to someone with whom he disagrees.
As far as slapping heads around, I doubt if many linuxites
could slap around anything tougher than a pillow, at least
the ones I have met.
Here is my comment for those who honestly believe that
Microsoft has anything to fear from the "free (taxpayer
supported) software" movement:
hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha
x100 lines.
gippy
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From: Christoph Ruch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.admin.isp,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: problem: ld cannot open crtbegin.o
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:46:23 +0200
When I try to compile different sources (kernel, ada programs etc.) I
get always the error message:
ld cannot open crtbegin.o
This file can be found at /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/crtbegin.o
Where is the problem on my system? Do I have to set an environment
variable or do I have to make a link to my libraries?
Please respond by email
regard
Christoph
--
Christoph Ruch, dipl. Inf. Ing. ETH
Sandrainstr. 17, CH-3007 Bern
Tel. +41 31 376 2020, Fax +41 31 376 2024
EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: OK, Whats wrong with this kernel configuration???
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:38:34 GMT
first my machine
asus p2b motherboard
pentium 2 @ 450 mhz
matrox millineum 2 pci 4 meg video card
western digital caviar umda 6.4 gig hd
nec 40x crdom udma
adaptec 2940 uw scsi card card id 0
yamaha 4416s cdrw scsi only scsi device id 1
conner 800 qic80 tape drive
sblaster vibra16x pnp sound card
usr sportster model 5685 v evertyhing voice modem
64 meg pc100 ram
zip 100 parallel port zipdrive
epson stylus color 640
plustec optic pro 600p parallel port flatbed scanner
nec floppy drive
i want to set it up as a stand alone machine with dialup ppp access to
the web
the kernel config: *=selected m=module , if not here
i didnt use it
LANGUAGE FOR KERNEL CONFIGURATION-----> english
CODE MATURITY LEVELS-----> *
PROCESSOR TYPE AND FEATURES----->
pentium/k6/tsc processor family
* kernel math emulation
* mtrr control and configuration
LOADABLE MODULE SUPPORT----->
* enable loadable module support
* set version info on all symbols for modules
* kernel module loader support
GENERAL SETUP----->
* network support
* pci support
(any) pci access mode
* pci quirks
* backwards-compatible /proc/pci
* system V ipc
* bsd process accounting
* sysctl support
M kernel support for a.out binaries
M " " " " " " elf binaries
M " " " " " misc
M " " " " " java
M parallel - port support
M pc-style hardware
PLUG AND PLAY SUPPORT ------>
* plug and play support
M auto-probe for parallel devices
BLOCK DEVICES------>
* normal pc floppy disk support
* enhanced ide/mf/rll disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support
* include ide/ata-2 disk support
M include ide/atapi cdrom support
M include ide/atapi tape support
M include ide/atapi floppy support
M scsi emulation support
* cmd640 chipset bugfix/support
* cmd640 enhanced support
* rz1000 chipset bugfix/support
* generic pci ide chipset support
* generic pci busmaster dma support
M loop device support
M parallel port ide device support
M parallel port ide disks
M parallel port atapi cd-roms
M parallel port atapi disks
M parallel port atapi tapes
M parallel port generic atapi devices
NETWORKING OPTIONS----->
* packet socket
* kernel /user network link driver
* routing messages
* netlink device emulation
* unix domain sockets
* tcp/ip networking
* syn flood protection
* ip! allow large windows ( not recommended if < 16 mb of memory)
* the IPv6 protocol
SCSI SUPPORT---->
M scsi support
M scsi disk support
M scsi cdrom support
M scsi generic support
* probe all luns on each scsi device
* verbose scsi error reporting (kernel size+=12k)
SCSI LOW LEVEL DRIVERS---->
M aadaptec aic78xxx chipset scsi controller support
M iomega parallel port (ppa-older drivers)
NETWORK DEVICE SUPPORT------>
* network device support
M dummy net driver support
M ppp (point-to-point) support
M slip (serial line) support
CHARACTER DEVICES----->
M standard/generic serial support
M parallel-printer support
* support IEEE1284 status readback
* mouse support (not serial mice)
MICE---->
* ps/2 mouse (aka "auxillary pointing device) support
* enhanced real time clock support
FTAPE, the floppy tape device driver---->
M floppy tape drive (qic-80/40/3010/3020/tr-1/tr-2/tr-3) support
M the filesystem interface ftape
* procfs entry for ftape
FILESYSTEMS---->
* quota support
M kernel automounter support
M fat fs support
M msdos fs support
M umsdos ! unix like fs ontop of msdos fs
M vfat fs support
M iso9660 fs support
* microsoft joliet cdrom extensions
M minix fs support
M os/2 hpfs fs support
* /proc fs support
M second extended fs support
NETWORK FILESYSTEMS----->
M coda fs support
* nfs fs support
M smb fs support
* smb win95 bug workaround
PARTITION TYPES---->
* bsd disklabel (freebsd partition table) support
* smd " " (sun partition table) support
* solaris " " (x86 " " " ) support
NATIVE LANGUAGE SUPPORT---->
* nls codepage 437
* nls codepage 850
SOUND----->
M soundcard support
M oss sound modules
M 100% soundblaster compatible (sb16/32/64,ess,jazz16) support
then
make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
make bzlilo
seemed to compile ok
vmlinuz.out current>zImage
root device is (3,5)
boot sector 512 bytes
setup is 1272 bytes
system is 376 kbytes
make[1]:leaving directory '/usr/src/linux-2.2.7.SuSe/arch/i386/boot'
but won't boot
i get
LILO Boot
loading LINUX..............
uncompressing linux...........OK,Booting the kernel
some disk activity but doesnt boot
tried a bunch of other stuff also
wont boot
any ideas???
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Shutdown
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:41:50 -0700
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I use Redhat 6.0.
> >
> > If I reboot the machine with shutdown -r then, while rebooring it`s
> > say`s ;
> >
> > / device is busy
> >
> > and it won`t umount /, leaving me with an uncleanly umount ed
> > filesystem when I reboot.
> > This doesn`t happen when I reboot with shutdown -h .
> >
> > Can anybody help me ?
> >
> > Thanks in Advance for the answer.
> >
> > Maurice Mahieu
>
> I'm not sure why you want to do shutdown -r since you can reboot simply
> by using
> Ctrl-Alt-Del (if you are running Linux on a PC). But I just checked
> my lap top
> which is running RH 6.0 and
> shutdown -r now
> seemed to work just fine.
>
> I don't know why there should be a difference between -r and -h, but
> something
> may be misconfigured. The easy answer is that the error message you
> get is
> correct and something is being done on the root file system which can't
> be
> interrupted. But I can't think of what that could be. Try it again
> and check
> the running processes.
> -
>
Maybe the original posted didn't logout/shut down X properly before he
tried to shut the whole system?
Alex Lam.
*Remove all the upper case Xs if reply by e mail.
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fat32 Conversion - Suicidal or OK?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:25:26 -0500
Alistair Hamilton wrote:
> I have a multi-bood system with a shared HDD. Win98 and Linux. Win98
> is on the active partition, and boot is controlled by lilo. So:
>
> lilo boot: /dev/hda
> win98: /dev/hda1 - fat 16
> linux boot images /dev/hda5
> linux root /dev/hda6
> linux swap /dev/hda7
>
> I'd really like /dev/hda1 (the windows C drive) to be fat 32.
>
> Any idea what might happen if I run the Windows fat32 conversion
> application?
>
> I don't mind having to convert, boot Linux of a floppy, and re-install
> lilo. I don't particularly want to have to re-install Windows from
> scratch. Maybe, I could make hda5 active and install lilo there, but
> I'm note sure that this will work.
>
> It is essential that Linux can continue to read and write the Windows
> partition, but I believe that fat 32 is no problem with recent kernels
> (mine is 2.2.6).
>
> Has anyone tried anything like this? If so, how did you get on.
>
> If I convert the partition, I will report back with the news, good or
> bad.
>
> Alistair.
I have successfully installed Windows 98 and Linux on the same machine
with Windows using FAT32. The Windows partition should be mounted
under Linux as a vfat file system. Then Linux has no trouble reading and
writing to the Windows files system.
If you believe Microsoft and other vendors of Windows products for
disk management, it should be safe to convert to FAT32 from FAT16.
This should not affect the LInux partitions, but it could conceivably
affect lilo, depeneding on how you configured it. You should make sure
you have a boot disk---any RH5.* or beyond will provide one that will
allow you to boot by using mkbootdisk. Then you can run lilo after
converting the file system. It is probably safe to put lilo in the MBR,
but I would put in somewhere in the Linux part of the disk: either
/boot or /, depending on how you partitioned the disk.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: Linux systems- Poor security
Date: 18 Jun 1999 14:17:37 GMT
Sean Yamamoto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Kick the administrator off and change root password (making sure
: there are no backdoors (e.g., .rhosts file). Once you've yanked the
: networking cords and barred physical access to the system (including
: turning the monitor the other way), you're 98% of the way there.
Ahh, but the sysadmin has a backup on a machine in a secret location!
And, the system will self destruct in 5...4...3...2.......
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"It showed a lady, with a fur cap on and a fur stole, sitting upright
and holding out to the spectator a huge fur muff into which the whole
of her forearm had vanished!" --From Franz Kafka's Metamorphosis
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From: Chris Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Netscape Composer Crashes with RH 6.0
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:40:52 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This was happening to me as well --- to fix, I set the environment
variables $MOZILLA_HOME and $CLASSPATH in /etc/profile.
This solved the problem for me.
Good luck!
-Chris
Keith Thigpen wrote:
> I've been trying to use Netscape Composer (both the standard issue 4.5.1
> and the newer 4.6.1 rpm) on Redhat 6.0. It crashes like crazy with a bus
> error any time I try to add a link to an existing html page. This
> happens both as root and as a regular user.
>
> Has anyone seen this one before?
>
> --
> =================================================================
> Keith Thigpen Lockheed Martin Corporation
> Telephone 256.722.4432 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Chris Brown
Senior Systems Consultant
Sybase, Inc.
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This was happening to me as well --- to fix, I set the environment
variables $MOZILLA_HOME and $CLASSPATH in /etc/profile.
<p>This solved the problem for me.
<p>Good luck!
<p>-Chris
<br>
<br>
<p>Keith Thigpen wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>I've been trying to use Netscape Composer (both the
standard issue 4.5.1
<br>and the newer 4.6.1 rpm) on Redhat 6.0. It crashes like crazy with
a bus
<br>error any time I try to add a link to an existing html page. This
<br>happens both as root and as a regular user.
<p>Has anyone seen this one before?
<p>--
<br>=================================================================
<br>Keith
Thigpen
Lockheed Martin Corporation
<br>Telephone
256.722.4432
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]</blockquote>
<pre>--
Chris Brown
Senior Systems Consultant
Sybase, Inc.</pre>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Kernel errors?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:19:30 GMT
During bootup, I get a couple of errors - but I'm not sure they really
affect the day-to-day running of my system (I'm pretty sure I've been
getting these errors since I first upgraded from kernel 2.0.36 to 2.2.*);
Jun 17 13:04:09 blackdeath kernel: Symbol table has incorrect version number.
Jun 17 13:04:09 blackdeath kernel: Cannot find map file.
I get that every boot. Is this serious? Fixable?
--
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4
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From: David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red-Hat - Linux?
Date: 18 Jun 1999 16:28:31 GMT
+-----On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:47:00 +0300, Tom Alsberg spoke unto us:----------
| Hi there... I should tell the only Linux distro I've used was
| Slackware, now considering changing to another distro, my question is -
| why do so many people say Red Hat is /not/ really Linux? is it the
| ease-of-use? does it use different libraries? a shell of his own? a
| incompatible networking kernel or X server kit? I want Linux, real
| Linux, really real Linux, is Red Hat for me? if not, what would be for
| me? what are all the differences between all the distros anyway?
| Information wouldn't hurt ;-),
| Tom Alsberg
I've never heard that Red Hat isn't really Linux. It is Linux.
bilbey
--
"If you lose your job, your marriage and your mind all in one week, try to
lose your mind first, because then the other stuff won't matter that
much." --Jack Handey
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernie Borenstein)
Subject: Re: FIPS installation problems----Help!
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:13:09 GMT
In article <QR4a3.2085$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> Hi,
> I am attempting to install Linux on my 300 Mhz IBM Aptiva. It has a 6gb
> hard drive with about 2gb already used and in the FAT 32 file format. I ran
> defrag and shut down into MS dos mode and started FIPS. After the boot
> sector, FAT and the drive were checked "OK" I got an error message "last
> cylinder is not free" and the program quit. I've done this several times
> with some variations but I always get the same error message. I am
> wondering if FAT 32 is the problem and may need to resort to destructive
> partitioning.
> Any ideas?
> Pat
>
>
>
Make sure you are using the latest version of FIPS (which is 2.0) at
http://www.igd.fhg.de/~aschaefe/fips/.
The Linux FAT32 support page might give you some good info at
http://www-plateau.cs.berkeley.edu/people/chaffee/fat32.html
The RANISH partition manager might be good to at
http://www.users.intercom.com/~ranish/part/
BB
Boeing
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From: Alessandro Bruciamonti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Portal for Linux
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:29:39 +0200
Hello all!
I'm searching for "web portal software" under Linux. I need
informations on every implementation of configurable user
web interface.
Thank you for your help and greetings from Italy!
Alessandro
--
Alessandro "Alex" Bruciamonti
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
From: Aaron Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 18 Jun 1999 09:20:26 -0500
"Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Are you suggesting that *nix has no bugs? Or requires no
> patches to get running securely? ALL operating systems
> have bugs that must be patched, I don't care if it's
> linux, NT, Solaris etc. And why has no-one found this bug
> until now - IIS 4.0 has been out for quite a while now...
That's not surprising. Since IIS is not open source, the
only way to find bugs in it is through trial-and-error
attacks or dumb luck. Microsoft calls this a Good Thing.
Their theory is that security holes are only a problem if
someone finds them. They're wrong.
The problem with that thinking is that it means that the
first person to find an exploitable security hole in your
new web server is likely to be malicious. With open source
software, most security holes are found by the many
developers. I'd rather have my security holes found by
developers than by crackers, thanks.
Of course, the latest e-mail 'viruses' aren't viruses at
all. They're a natural outgrowth of two things: the fact
that Windows is really a single-user system that doesn't
expect to deal with malicious programs or data; and the fact
that much Windows software (MS and third-party) encourages
users to abdicate their responsibility for checking insecure
data and instead let applications freely exchange it.
I could write a Unix e-mail 'virus' like Melissa in ten
minutes. My virus could, let's say, wipe out the user's .rc
files, then hunt through the system for common mail logs and
alias files, parse out a bunch of addresses, and forward
the virus to them. It could also mail me the user's
Netscape/lynx cookies files, which would allow me to
impersonate him on web sites he frequents.
This would be easy to program, but would never work, because
Unix users just *don't* set up their software to
automatically execute e-mail attachments. That's partly
because they know better, but it's also because e-mail
clients for Unix aren't stupid enough to present that
possibility as a default. So the responsibility for these
e-mail worms falls partly on the users who unknowingly
spread them, but also on their software makers for trying
too hard to make things transparent and undermining simple
security precautions in the process.
Aaron
--
Aaron Baugher - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Quincy, IL, USA
Extreme Systems Consulting - http://haruchai.rnet.com/esc/
CGI, Perl, Java, and Linux/Unix Administration
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