Linux-Misc Digest #338, Volume #21 Mon, 9 Aug 99 05:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: redhat vs suse (Oliver.Natt)
Re: Where can I get a pre-installd Linux box for $250? (Stephen S.)
Re: Need reference translate ksh script to bash (Kenneth Karlsson)
HOME NETWORK CONNECT TO INTERNET BY PPP NOT WORK !! ("tom")
Re: bash scripting problem in efax for RedHat 5.2 (Kenneth Karlsson)
Re: PnP Kernel and PnP Modem (Coy A Hile)
Re: character based word processor?? (Roman Fietze)
Web Browsing without X ("Ralph Allan Rice")
Re: terminal emulation error using elm (telnet from Windows95 or NT) (Coy A Hile)
Re: The Incredible Shrinking / ! Help! (Ray)
Re: NT & Linux - dual boot (Stephen S.)
Re: NC like program (Norton Commander) ("c64")
Re: non-SCSI scanners (Peter Caffin)
Re: Beginner problem, please help (Leonard Evens)
Re: Printing on Linux (Philipp Maier)
help newbie on suse 6.1 kppp ("Enter your name here")
Re: The Incredible Shrinking / ! Help! (Jeffrey C. Dege)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oliver.Natt)
Subject: Re: redhat vs suse
Date: 09 Aug 1999 06:58:39 +0200
"Nevyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> p.s.......does anyone know of a list of the app on the suse CD's, like what
> they do, where they r (which directory of which cd etc).....i dont know half
> of the apps and might want them if i did
Go to
http://www.suse.de/e/lx62/Pakete/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen S.)
Subject: Re: Where can I get a pre-installd Linux box for $250?
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 05:13:52 GMT
On 26 Jul 1999 17:32:57 GMT, Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>Is there any companies out there ont he web that are selling Linux
>boxes (Intel-based) running Redhat 6 for about $250? I heard somthing
>about some kind of consumer boxes being pushed by Prodigy sometime soon;
>but these sounded like more client boxes: I want to run a web and mail server.
>If not for $250, what's the cheapest boxes on the net?
>Thanks
>for any info.
>
Definetly not at MASS PC
www.mass-pc.com
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From: Kenneth Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need reference translate ksh script to bash
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 05:30:55 GMT
Ksh is available on Linux. I think it is called pksh or something like
that.
As far as I know the only real difference is that you have to change echo
to echo -n.
Regards Kenneth Karlsson
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From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: HOME NETWORK CONNECT TO INTERNET BY PPP NOT WORK !!
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 14:06:55 +0800
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Hi EVERYONE :
version : RED HAT 5.1 LINUX
I have a home network using Linux server to connect internet
by ppp and network card connect my local PC.=20
=20
I check the Linux server by using PPP to internet is working.
It can ping and http to the outside work.
I try to activate the network card eth0 and add the address
to route table . Then the local linux server can not ping by itself
and it can ping the outside world. The Local PC can ping the linux
server but can not telnet at all.
my route table setting
=20
default gateway :203.80.85.62
network device :ppp0
network device network network mask gateway
eth0 203.80.85.38 255.255.255.192 =
203.80.85.62
My network diagram
default gateway 203.80.85.62 ISP have assign the network mask=20
| 255.255.255.192 so I have 7 internet IP =20
203.80.85.55(ppp0)=20
| =20
Linux server
|
203.80.85.38 (eth0) if activate
|
203.80.85.39 can ping to 203.80.85.39
|
Local PC runing win98 can ping to 203.80.85.38
can not pint to =
203.80.85.55
Thanks
TOM
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi EVERYONE :</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>version : RED HAT 5.1 =
LINUX</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I have a home =
network using=20
Linux server to connect internet</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>by ppp and network card connect my =
local PC.=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I check the =
Linux server by=20
using PPP to internet is working.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It can ping and http to the outside=20
work.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> I try to =
activate the=20
network card eth0 and add the address</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>to route table . Then the local linux =
server can=20
not ping by itself</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>and it can ping the outside world. The =
Local PC can=20
ping the linux</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>server but can not telnet at =
all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><U>my route table=20
setting</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> default gateway=20
:203.80.85.62</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> network device =
:ppp0</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> network device =
network=20
=
=20
network mask =
gateway</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
eth0 =20
=
=20
203.80.85.38 255.255.255.192 &nbs=
p; 203.80.85.62</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG><U>My network=20
diagram</U></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> default gateway 203.80.85.62 ISP =
have assign=20
the network mask </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p;=20
| =
=20
255.255.255.192 so I have 7 internet IP </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
203.80.85.55(ppp0)=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20
| </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Linux=20
server</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2> =20
|</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
203.80.85.38=20
(eth0) &=
nbsp; =20
if activate</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> &nbs=
p;=20
|</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> 203.80.85.39 &nbs=
p;  =
; can=20
ping to 203.80.85.39</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =20
|</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> =
Local PC=20
runing win98 can ping to =
203.80.85.38</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial=20
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p;  =
; =
=20
=
can=20
not pint to 203.80.85.55</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>TOM</FONT></DIV>
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From: Kenneth Karlsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash scripting problem in efax for RedHat 5.2
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 05:30:54 GMT
You are trying to cat a file into a variable. This will change the contents
of the file in the variable.
replace echo with cat and remove cfile=`cat $cfile`
It could also be that $cfile doesnt exist or that you have to add a path to
it.
Regards Kenneth karlsson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PnP Kernel and PnP Modem
Date: 9 Aug 1999 01:36:14 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Kevin R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm running Slakware 4.0 and have compiled my Kernel to include PnP
>support.
>
>I can't get my Pace 56 internal PnP modem to work. This is NOT a win
>modem.
>
>I also can't get my Creative Sound blaster 16 PnP to work
>
>Do I still need to be using isapnp or setserial despite having a PnP
>OS
>
>Would life be easier if I took out the PnP support from my kernel and
>used ISAPNP instead ?
you can let the plug n pray support in your kernel, but yes, use isapnp.
as for how to get isapnp to work, i did it by trial and error when hacking
apart a pnpdump output.
the best advice i can give is (1) trial and error works and 2) rtfm.
Coy
--
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roman Fietze)
Subject: Re: character based word processor??
Date: 9 Aug 1999 06:23:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe) writes:
> Use TeX/LaTeX. It is better than any word processors
> out there.
I am using LaTeX myself for a lot of stuff, doing everything in Emacs
w/o even using the menues or lisp functions, but I could never force
somebody else in my group using it, esp. not some kind of manager used
to create slides with at least 256 colors, 25 fonts and having
problems creating two-column text in a "normal" word processor, not
even talking about indices, TOC's, styles, ...
Roman
--
Roman Fietze (Mail Code 5023) Heidelberg Digital/Germany
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Ralph Allan Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Web Browsing without X
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:50:47 -0400
Hi.
Does anyone out there know of any command-line graphical web browsers that
use graph libraries (libSVGA or others) instead of depending on X? This is
just for evaluation to determine if a thin Linux client could be used for
our kiosks instead of Windows, and it does not matter if it is freeware or
commercial.
Thanks for responding,
Ralph
______________________________________________________________
Ralph Allan Rice
Computer Science, University of Akron
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: terminal emulation error using elm (telnet from Windows95 or NT)
Date: 9 Aug 1999 01:32:33 -0400
In article <uKkr3.216$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Justin B Willoughby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>if you want less trouble (or a prettier output), use something like TeraTerm.
>(TeraTerm also has the defect wrt line-drawing characters, but at least does
>color and is more flexible wrt screen size).
>
be sure and download the ssh module for TeraTerm because plain telnet does
nasty things like sending passwords plain text.
Coy
--
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: The Incredible Shrinking / ! Help!
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 05:51:12 GMT
On Mon, 09 Aug 1999 01:53:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C.
Dege) wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Aug 1999 01:06:44 GMT, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sun, 08 Aug 1999 05:18:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>3) Your partitioning scheme is really, really strange.
>>
>>Well, then so is my SuSE manual and 80% of the people I've "talked to"
>>on the Usenet. :-) Seriously, though, I think that there are as
>>many different philosophies and methods as there are stars in the sky
>>when it comes to partitioning Linux. I based my partitioning on the
>>recommendations in the SuSE manual, and numerous recommendations from
>>other users on these newsgroups. Nearly everyone recommended 100 meg
>>partition for root, and same for /home.
>
>Well, one fundamental point - you _always_ want to be able to boot.
>This has a few corollaries. Put as little in root as is possible.
>Particularly, never put dynamic files in root. (/tmp and /var
>hold a number of arbitrarily sized files, they should be on
>separate partitions, because filling up /tmp or /var is far
>less serious a problem than filling up /root.
I'm learning... Slowly, maybe, but I am learning. I think I just may
re-do everything again. Since I still have a somewhat fresh install,
I won't lose much of anything by wiping it all out and starting over
again. I never had a concept of what-all was going on in /var and
/tmp until I started having these problems and came here for help. I
even found out another area where I'm getting potential fill-ups.
SuSE likes to create rpm backup databases to /var/adm/backup/rpmdb.
>I think my setup is fairly typical:
>
>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>/dev/sda3 80303 30682 45474 40% /
>/dev/sda5 20803 3616 16113 18% /boot
>/dev/sda6 40629 24375 14156 63% /var
>/dev/sda11 74343 34 70470 0% /tmp
>/dev/sda8 991995 631427 309318 67% /usr
>/dev/sda9 199255 354 188611 0% /usr/local
>/dev/sda10 149686 68716 73240 48% /home
>/dev/sdb2 40562 30155 8312 78% /old
>/dev/sdb7 100118 81533 13415 86% /old/home
>/dev/sdb6 20803 170 19559 1% /old/tmp
>/dev/sdb8 717608 429592 250948 63% /old/usr
>/dev/sda2 359224 256672 102552 71% /mnt/dos/c
>/dev/sdb1 304968 255680 49288 84% /mnt/dos/d
dang! And I thought I had a lot with 5 partitions! :-)
Ray
(going back to the ol' dawingboard...)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen S.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: NT & Linux - dual boot
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 06:02:52 GMT
Windows will not boot linux directly bacause the NT boot loader
doesn't understand the ext2 partition format. There was a third party
utility that you could use that would patch the NT boot.ini and the
loader files to get it to work correctly. I used to use it all the
time. I think the name of it is BOOTPART. A search on google turned
up this site: http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm
Good luck
www.mass-pc.com
On 2 Aug 1999 15:30:33 GMT, Nev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am a newcomer to Linux (SUSE 6.1) and I have the following question.
>
>
>
>I wish to install NT on my primary master IDE (IDE0 - hda) and Linux on the
>
>secondary master (IDE1 - hdc). I have got NT running OK on IDE0 and Linux
>
>can only be booted from floppy. I have tried the "copy 512 bytes and save
>
>as bootsek.lin to the root directory of NT etc" but this didn't work.
>
>
>
>I cannot boot from Linux by swapping boot order in the BIOS getting error
>
>message "LIL-" to both attempts. My hdc is structured as follows -
>
>hdc1=boot, hdc2=swap & hdc3=root as per standard install. The LILO I
>
>believe is in the hdc1.
>
>
>
>Are there any suggestions as to what procedure I can follow to achieve the
>
>"dual boot" of NT & Linux?
>
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> http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: "c64" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: NC like program (Norton Commander)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:02:07 +0800
I have downloaded mc-4.1-1.src.rpm..rpm and used below command
rpm -ivh mc-4.1-1.src.rpm..rpm
Question. I can't find the 'unzip' file to run..
haha... sound silly.
Stefan Ehlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7oiigh$pp0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <7oih49$7t8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "c64" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Are there any Nc like program in linux. I find NC a very good tool to
use.
> > tks
>
> There are quite many - the best (mightiest) one I know is mc.
> For an overview see http://www.linuxberg.com/conhtml/fil_managers.html
> If X11 applications are OK, too, you should also have a look at
> http://www.linuxberg.com/x11html/fil_managers.html
>
> It's not complete (e.g. git and TKDesk are missing), but a good start.
>
> CU
> Stefan
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From: Peter Caffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: non-SCSI scanners
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 05:18:37 +0000
Bob Lockie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am interested in buying a cheap non-SCSI scanner.
> What works under Linux?
Bugger-all that can be easily purchased today. Bite the bullet and go
SCSI.
If you're sufficiently masochistic to ignore the above sound advice,
see what you can find that's purchaseable from your suppliers from the
listing at http://www2.prestel.co.uk/hex/scanners.html.
--: _ _ _ _
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//`'\_ | (/_|(/_| |_(_|| | || | http://it.net.au/~pc |
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Beginner problem, please help
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 1999 11:36:07 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi, all
>
> How can I prevent Red hat boot to X window? while my
> videocard configuration is wrong, Now my monitor flashs
> when I start Linux, I can see nothing.I think I should
> run Xconfigurator again.
>
> And I have a Creative TNT with 16M Ram. I could boot to
> KDE at first, but only with 640*480 16c. After running
> Xconfigurator several times, KDE doesn't start anymore.
> What should I do to config it? I have selected "Riva TNT"
> and customed monitor myself. should I select videocard
> with 4M ram, I have seen such configuation somewhere.
>
> thanks
>
> steven
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
You want runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5.
This is controlled by a line in /etc/inittab. If you want
to change it permanently (or an extended period of time),
change the `5' to a `3' in the appropriate line. But
if you don't have X running, you will probably have to
boot single user to do that by entering
linux single
at the LILO prompt.
If you just want to do boot in run level 3 once, use
linux 3
at the LILO prompt.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Printing on Linux
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 10:13:24 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
K Kal wrote:
>
> Linux Gurus,
> Does anyone know how to configure a printer on LINUX?? All I know
> is the printer's IP address. Can anyone help?
I had problems printing to an IP address, too. To locate the problem,
the following instructions might be helpful:
1.Can you connect to the printer? Try: ping 1.2.3.4
2.If this works, try: telnet 1.2.3.4 515
which should give you something like the following:
Trying 1.2.3.4
Connected to xx.yy
Escape character is ...
This connection must be termined (hint: ESC, ] , q).
3.If this works, then you have a problem with the printer spooler. Stop
the spooler to verify that jobs are queued for printing.
Type:
lpc stop remote
lpr -Premote /etc/printcap
lpc status remote
lpq -Premote
You first stopped the printer queue and then attempted to print the
/etc/printcap-file. This job should show up.
4.Restart the printer queue:
lpc start remote
If everythings works, your file should now be printed...
(Taken from my webpage,
http://www.eco.rug.nl/medewerk/maier/Recreation/html/printing.htm)
Philipp Maier
--
Information about Sylt and Maerklin mini-club:
www.crosswinds.net/~pmaier
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From: "Enter your name here" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help newbie on suse 6.1 kppp
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 01:04:49 -0700
i am trying to conf. kpp and sofar i got it connected to my isp but it
it stop short at pap authentication.
my isp provided me with the pap for the pap-secrets, but i still can't get
it to work :(
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C. Dege)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: The Incredible Shrinking / ! Help!
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 08:15:27 GMT
On Mon, 09 Aug 1999 05:51:12 GMT, Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Mon, 09 Aug 1999 01:53:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeffrey C.
>Dege) wrote:
>
>>I think my setup is fairly typical:
>>
>>Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
>>/dev/sda3 80303 30682 45474 40% /
>>/dev/sda5 20803 3616 16113 18% /boot
>>/dev/sda6 40629 24375 14156 63% /var
>>/dev/sda11 74343 34 70470 0% /tmp
>>/dev/sda8 991995 631427 309318 67% /usr
>>/dev/sda9 199255 354 188611 0% /usr/local
>>/dev/sda10 149686 68716 73240 48% /home
>>/dev/sdb2 40562 30155 8312 78% /old
>>/dev/sdb7 100118 81533 13415 86% /old/home
>>/dev/sdb6 20803 170 19559 1% /old/tmp
>>/dev/sdb8 717608 429592 250948 63% /old/usr
>>/dev/sda2 359224 256672 102552 71% /mnt/dos/c
>>/dev/sdb1 304968 255680 49288 84% /mnt/dos/d
>
>dang! And I thought I had a lot with 5 partitions! :-)
Well, I'd only have 6, if it weren't for the links to other OSes.
--
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future for the programming techniques of the past: it creates a new generation
of coding bums.
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