Linux-Misc Digest #450, Volume #21 Wed, 18 Aug 99 16:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Local printing using ansi emulation (Frank da Cruz)
Re: Cracks for Linux? (Bryan)
Re: Can't logout (John Trostel)
Re: accessing windows files under linux (Chris)
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Brad BARCLAY)
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Rod Smith)
Accessing Linux from NT (Neil Walters)
Re: Caldera -> RH? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Accessing Linux from NT (Timothy J. Lee)
Re: XWindows Emulators ("simon")
Re: what does "broken pipe" mean? ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: Updating fdisk or cfdisk? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Serialprogramming (Chris Butler)
Video setup ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0 (Leonard Evens)
Re: Accessing windows 98 files from Linux ? (Leonard Evens)
netscape minimizes spontaneously (Neil)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank da Cruz)
Subject: Re: Local printing using ansi emulation
Date: 18 Aug 1999 15:33:07 GMT
In article <4Pzu3.924$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Americo Kerr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: > I'm newbie to Linux (not to unix). I use the same version of SCO Unix
: > (5.0.5) on our server. Several windows98 machines on our network access the
: > SCO server to run a character application. We're using the great Netterm
: > from Neosoft, but it doesn't have a linux version! So I have the same
: > problem that you - can't print to a local printer when using Linux and a
: > emulator like xvt, xterm, konsole, etc. The emulator ignores the
: > "transparent print" escape sequence.
:
: XFree86 xterm supports the "transparent print" escape sequence(s).
:
: The XFree86 3.3.3.1 xterm supports ANSI color and VT220 emulation
: There's an faq at
: http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm/xterm.faq.html
: ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/xterm
:
If you are not using an xterm (and not using XFree86 xterm), then another
choice is to use C-Kermit as your dialout program or Telnet/Rlogin client:
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck70.html
Version 7.0, now in Beta test, supports transparent printing.
- Frank
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From: Bryan <Bryan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cracks for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:56:28 GMT
optimally, I'd pay the $20 IF I could get source. ie, I don't mind at
all paying for somone's effort, but when things break (and it appears
they do, sometimes, with oss) then I want to be able to fix it.
otoh, I understand that they CANNOT release source since they had to
sign an NDA to get specs on some cards. one card that I own and NEED
drivers for is only NDA and even then, the oss guys aren't really on
the ball about delivering high quality and FULL FUNCTIONAL drivers for
it (the card is a sonorus studi/o - which has been claiming linux
support for well over a year now, but still does not have multichannel
i/o working).
so I have mixed feelings about oss. if they would do a complete job
and in a timely manner, I'd support them. but since their
implementation for the card I need is far from complete, I'll hold
onto my money. vote with your dollars, I always say.
In comp.os.linux.development.apps Lawrence Troxler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 06:21:24 GMT, Wendell Craig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: :>> I got it to work by typing in (as root):
: :>>
: :>> cd /
: :>> rm -rf *
: :>>
: :>> After that I didn't have any problems with OSS/Linux asking me to register it.
: :>> I think that it removes the nagware config file or something.
: :>>
: :>> Good Luck,
: :>> Jason
: :>
: :>Now THAT's mean! (Understandable, though! ;)
: : My experience with the proprietary OSS drivers has also led me to use rm -rf,
: : but only on the downloaded materials rather than the whole filesystem.
: : The first thing that their binary-only piece of digital trash did was promptly
: : lock up my kernel as soon as I opened the device. If I'm going to pay for
: : garbage, I might as well install Windows and use the drivers that came with the
: : sound card.
: I have nothing against commercial software on Linux, but this OSS effort
: is giving it a bad name. C'mon, OSS/Free includes source code. Pay $20,
: and now the source code is taken away???
: I too have been having problems after a kernel/OSS upgrade. MPU-401 input
: driver locks the machine. Left email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] over the
: weekend. It is now Wedensday morning and I've heard nothing.
: Not the best $20 I've ever spent!
: Larry
:
--
Bryan, http://www.Grateful.Net - Linux/Web-based Network Management
->->-> to email me, you must hunt the WUMPUS and kill it.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Trostel)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Can't logout
Date: 18 Aug 1999 16:57:12 GMT
The real prefered solution is to upgrade your gnome and enlightenment (and
ORBit) according to the rh erratta.
Check out the updates, download them and apply the rpms. This has completely
solved this problem for me... No More <ctrl><alt><backspace> or
<ctrl><alt><F1>!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
M. James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What are you trying to log out of? X or a console?
> If you are stuck in X, hit Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to get to a console, then
> try to logout from the command line. As far as being stuck in a console, I
> have never had it happen to me, so I have no real solution for that.
>
> *** Make sure you save any data from your apps before striking the X server.
>
> As far as the time resetting every boot...could be the battery that
> powers the system clock.
>
> On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, kev wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I use RH6 with Gnome. I have a dual boot system, and I have problems
>>with time, which means when I log in, usually I have to set the clock
>>right away using date -s. As soon as I press the return key, the machine
>>logs me out, then I log back in and the time is set OK.
>>However, I've just come back from a week's holiday, I rebooted the
>>machine this morning, then set the time as usual. The time set OK but
>>didn't log me out.
>>It turns out that I _cannot_ log out now - choosing logout from the menu
>>just has no effect whatsoever. How am I supposed to log out with hitting
>>the power button and trshing my filesystem. I could do a 'shutdown -r
>>now', but I don't want to shut it down, I just want to log out.
>>Any ideas?
>>
>>- Kev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,athome.users-unix,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: accessing windows files under linux
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:15:20 GMT
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 07:22:33 GMT,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> With the huge HD's available these days, just install everything, then
>> you can see what you DO and Don't want and like about linux software.
>
>I'm subscribed to cable modem service atm.
>When I get linux running the first thing that I'll do is hopefully get my
>internet connection reconnected via my cable isp.
>If I install all the packages and IF I get my internet connection, wouldn't
>I be at risk since I installed ftp, sendmail, etc? Obviously I don't feel
>confident about how to go about setting up a firewall yet.
>Would you recomment I disable those type of programs for security reasons?
Installing something and running it so you have ports open are two
different things. You are correct though, Redhat last I knew (5.1)
defaulted to running anything you install. There are multitudinous
FAQ's and HOWTO websites on disabling services and Redhat has 'linuxconf'
an application that is fairly self explanatory, just realize that
servers are referred to as 'services' and go into linuxconf and shutdown
basically all of them until you get up to speed.
Securing your box is really not that hard to do, a lot of the horror
stories here and elsewhere are from truly clueless people that are just
too uninitiated to bother trying. Heck, there are many running packet
filter firewalls and logging just so they can see portscans...meanwhile
they have no ports to protect...it's all so weird. To each his own
paranoia.
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From: Brad BARCLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:53:08 -0400
Zephyr Q wrote:
> But, I'm yet another victim of despair from IBM's lack of
> support. When they cut off Warp 3, I knew Warp 4 isn't far
> behind.
You're doing a whole lot of assuming as to what IBM is or isn't going
to do with their products here. WARP v3 had an exceptionally long
lifespan of 5 years. Jus try to get support from Microsoft for a
version of Windows released in 1994, and see how far you get. Or wait 5
years, and see how much support you get from the Linux community for
your (by then) hugely out-of-date version of today's Linux.
> --and despite the plethura of *current* programs
> for OS/2--the numbers of *future* products is going down.
> Opera has yet to produce an OS/2 browser, the Win32 project
> was dropped (and picked up...but will be dropped again I'm
> sure), and with the exception of talented students (ProNews)
> and 2 or 3 companies--I just don't see much of a future.
Once again, you're doing a whole lot of assuming of what a whole lot of
people are going to do. You've decided - without evidence - that IBM is
going to drop OS/2 WARP v4 in the near future. Now you're assumed that
Project Odin is going to be dropped again.
You've created your own doom and gloom scenario by assuming that
everything is suddenly going to go away. You could, if you wanted to,
decide that the sky was falling as well, and start to plan to move to
Mars...
Your choice of OS is your own - I won't make it for you, and I
certainly encourage you to look at the other options that are out
there. But don't make lame excuses for your decision, and don't expect
your next platform to be just like OS/2 but with more enthusiasm
surrounding it - there is only one OS/2; using someting else and then
trying to make it just like OS/2 is nothing but a cruel joke on
yourself.
Brad BARCLAY
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Location: 2G43D@Torolabs
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:13:32 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rory C-L) writes:
>
> 1) Prior to GNU, didn't the MIT lab and similar groups have
> or make its own operating system?
Yes and no. Commercial UNIXes were available and in use before the FSF
or GNU came into being. I don't know offhand whether these were in heavy
use at MIT at the time, though. I do know that in the 1960s and 1970s
MIT, like many sites, had been using OSes that are little-known today --
things like ITS.
> 2) Why did RMS decide to develop a Unix-type system if he came
> from LISP?
LISP is a computer language. UNIX is an operating system. The two aren't
mutually exclusive, and in fact, as a language, LISP *MUST* run on an
operating system. UNIX is as good an OS as any for that task. (Actually,
I don't know enough about LISP to know what its optimal host OS would be,
but AFAIK there's nothing extraordinarily BAD about UNIX from a LISP point
of view.)
> 3) Why did RMS work on Emacs and GCC before the GNU operating
> system - presumably he was developing for Unix?
Because he needed those tools to develop HURD. Either that or use
commercial tools to develop HURD first and then develop the compiler and
switch compilers, but that could present all sorts of troubles. (No two
compilers for the same language produce identical binaries or take
identical options in their source code, so switching a compiler would
require rewriting at least some of the OS and debugging it all over again
-- not an enticing prospect when you're ALSO developing and debugging the
compiler! You'd also then have an OS with no applications and no
compiler, so you'd need to cross-compile everything until you got a
native compiler running, and that would be a nuisance.)
At least, that's what I imagine -- I don't have privileged access to RMS's
brain! ;-)
> A related
> question: Did Linus Torvalds first develop Linux using Unix?
Not exactly. Linus Torvalds began Linux as a sort of re-implementation of
Minix, which is another UNIX clone. Much of the original Linux coding was
done with tools under Minix, until Linux itself became stable enough to
host the development.
> 4) Was the Incompatible Timesharing System (ITS) a sort of oper-
> ating system?
Yes.
> 5) Is the GNU Hurd operating system now 'viable'? Why did it take
> so long to produce?
I've never used it, but my understanding is that it's now available. I
don't know if it's useable or "viable," whatever that might mean. My
understanding is that it took a long time mostly because the kernel
proved much more challenging to produce than the developers had
originally anticipated. The design was to be fairly leading-edge, so the
techniques required weren't well-understood. By contrast, the Linux
kernel uses relatively old and well-understood techniques, so instead of
spending a week trying to figure out how to accomplish something, the
developers could look it up in a textbook and have it done in half a
day. Again, though, I'm not "in" on either the HURD or the Linux core
development, so this is based on what I've heard, not first-hand
experience.
> 6) What is the difference between GNU and the FSF?
FSF (Free Software Foundation) is the organization that's written most
software that bears the GNU (GNU's Not UNIX) label. FSF is to GNU as
Hewlett Packard is to LaserJet, or as Intel is to Pentium. Except, AFAIK,
"GNU" isn't a trademarked term, so others can use it on software that
doesn't come from FSF.
> 7) The development of the free source movement since GNU appears
> to have been helped by a standardisation on the C language,
> promoted by the GCC compiler. Is this assertion true,
> notwithstanding the developments since of Python, Perl etc.? Are
> there important stories connected to Fortran or Lisp or any other
> languages that I need to look at?
That's probably a reasonable assertion. Certainly not as much would have
been accomplished if everybody had been using different languages. OTOH,
the open source movement is now big enough that there's room for programs
written in several other languages. Also, certain languages are popular
in certain specific subfields. LISP is big in AI circles, for instance,
though AFAIK there's not a lot of high-profile LISP software out there,
aside from Emacs. Various scripting languages are quite popular for
writing quick utilities and "glue" for separate components of packages.
You might want to pick up a copy of O'Reilly's _Open Sources: Voices from
the Open Source Revolution_, edited by Dibona, Stone, and Ockman. (I've
got a link to Amazon.com's ordering page for it on my web site at
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod/books.html.) It's got essays
that go into much of the history of the open source movement that you may
find interesting.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que
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From: Neil Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Accessing Linux from NT
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:57:41 +0100
Does anyone know of any software to access the Linux filesystem from
within Windows NT? Also is there any software to make the NT command
prompt more 'Linux User Friendly' i.e. the ls command and the use of the
Tab key?
Neil Walters
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Caldera -> RH?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:21:26 GMT
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 11:53:57 -0400, Chris Morton
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>486's should do fine. I'm doing some work on a 486/66 right now and
>it's more than powerful enough for learning purposes. The machine only
>has 16meg. and it still runs better than Win95 under the same
>conditions. There are a lot of useful things which you can do with a
>486 and Linux.
Thanx Chris! Any opinions as to the latest OpenLinux vs latest RedHat?
Regards,
Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Accessing Linux from NT
Date: 18 Aug 1999 18:06:42 GMT
Reply-To: see-signature-for-email-address---junk-not-welcome
Neil Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|Does anyone know of any software to access the Linux filesystem from
|within Windows NT?
Same computer, or different computer on the network? If the latter,
install Samba on the Linux computer.
|Also is there any software to make the NT command
|prompt more 'Linux User Friendly' i.e. the ls command and the use of the
|Tab key?
Cygwin32 from Cygnus is a bunch of GNU tools (e.g. bash, gcc, ls,
etc.) for Microsoft OSes. It is slower than the "real thing" (the
same GNU tools running on Linux on the same hardware).
--
========================================================================
Timothy J. Lee timlee@
Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. netcom.com
No warranty of any kind is provided with this message.
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From: "simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XWindows Emulators
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:56:59 +0100
what you are after is termed (no pun intended) an X client for Windows...
'cos it isn't an emulator.
At work we use a piece of software called "RelectionsX" which is probably
horrendously expensive.
Simon
RA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:7pe70r$rq2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
>
> Iam looking for XWindows Emulators to run Xwindows from my Linux box on
NT.
> If anyone knows of any I would be gratefull of any info / links.
>
> Thanks
> Ronnie
>
>
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From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what does "broken pipe" mean?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 14:17:36 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It means that the process at the other end of the pipeline has "broken"
its connection to the pipe, usually by crashing or otherwise exiting.
Art S. Kagel
Carrie Coy wrote:
>
> Somehow I've broken something on my RH6.0 linux box so that all my shell
> scripts are failing with a message "broken pipe".
>
> Running gdb on a script like "echo hello" produces:
> Starting program: /bin/bash x
> Cannot access memory at address 0x401f90d0.
> (gdb) bt
> #0 0x4000a411 in _dl_debug_state () at dl-debug.c:56
> #1 0x40003546 in dl_main (phdr=0x8048034, phent=6,
> user_entry=0xbffffa74)
> at rtld.c:1107
> #2 0x4000bd0c in _dl_sysdep_start (start_argptr=0xbffffd20,
> dl_main=0x40001f40 <dl_main>) at ../sysdeps/generic/dl-sysdep.c:170
> #3 0x40001ea8 in _dl_start (arg=0xbffffd20) at rtld.c:205
> (gdb)
>
> What might I have done? Or better, what might I do to fix it?
> --
> Carrie Coy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Updating fdisk or cfdisk?
Date: 18 Aug 1999 14:54:00 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newsgroups trimmed]
In article <Rgqu3.137$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mazrim Taim wrote:
> I have RH Linux 5.1 and I'd like to update just my fdisk and cfdisk
> utilities. How do I do this? I've looked at Red Hat's RPM dirs (ftp) for 5.2
> and 6.0 and can't seem to find any RPM packages for fdisk and cfdisk.
Maybe RH has a "util-linux" package? That's where the source code
comes from.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Butler)
Subject: Re: Serialprogramming
Date: 18 Aug 1999 09:21:01 +0100
[comp.os.linux.misc - Tue, 17 Aug 1999 07:50:52 +0200] * juergen wrote *
> I have to programm the serialport.
> there i have to find out if the paritybit is wrong.
> this is the beginning of a protocol.
Have you read the Serial-Programming-HOWTO?
--
Chris Butler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Video setup
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:09:41 GMT
I've got a Toshiba Infinia 7230 with an onboard ATI Rage II+ video
card. Several months ago, I installed the ATI All-In-Wonder Pro in an
open PCI slot. It was a pretty kludgy install under Win '98 - but I
expected such.
Last night, I wiped my drive clean and installed Linux Mandrake. The
install went perfectly, but for 1 'small' item: X Configurator couldn't
read my video memory. It's seeing a Mach64, which, I believe, would be
right for either chipset. The install also listed my monitor. I tried
Probe to no avail. I also tried custom setup and still had no luck.
Each time I tried to finish X Configurator, Linux displayed an error
message that it couldn't detect my video memory settings (8MB on the
All-In-Wonder, 2MB on the Rage II+). I tried every possible
combination, but could never properly finish the install. Now I'm stuck
in the console.
Is this likely to be caused by a conflict between the onboard Rage II+
and the aftermarket All-In-Wonder Pro? If so, has anyone who's had this
problem been able to solve it by disabling the onboard card in the BIOS
settings (BIOS Phoenix 4, v6)?
Thanks,
Tony
*****************
... an unabashedly undaunted newbie ...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Real Audio Play for RH 6.0
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:18:16 -0500
Ernie Graeler wrote:
>
> Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Christopher R. Redinger" wrote:
> :>
> :> Kelvin Leung wrote:
> :> >
> :> > Yes, there is a alpha version of G2 from real.com, I forget the URL,
> :> > anyone knows? It's in www.real.com.
> :> >
> :> > Kelvin
> :> >
> :> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ralph Blach
> :> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> :> >
> :> > > Hi,
> :> > >
> :> > > is there a real audio player for Redhat 6.0 yet?
> :> > >
> :> > > Chip
> :>
> :> I've got the alpha G2 installed, but I'm wondering how in the world to
> :> get netscape to recognize that there is a plugin available for
> :> RealPlayer files? I've done the setup like they describe in their FAQ to
> :> tell netscape about a helper application for the mimetypes, but Netscape
> :> still tells me I don't have a plugin available for the
> :> audio/x-pn-realaudio-plugin mimetype.
> :>
> :> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> :>
> :> Thanks,
> :> Christopher
> :> http://www.broadcastmusic.com
> : I found when I went to set up netscape that there already was
> : an entry with the above mime type. But the instructions from
> : Real Audio tell you to use the mime type
> : audio/x-pn-realaudio
> : Of course you also have to specify the program to call
> : which I think should be
> : /usr/lib/RealPlayerG2/realplay %s
> : but you can browse for it.
> : Make sure you don't have multiple entries for the G2 mime type
> : in netscape applications.
>
> : --
>
> : Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> : Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
>
> That still doesn't answer the first question... Is there a real audio player
> for RH 6.0 yet and if there is where can it be gotten?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Ernie.
> --
> Ernst F. Graeler
> +----------------------------------------------+
> | You from Joisey!? ...Yeah I'm from Joisey!!! |
> | Oh Yeah! What Exit? [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
> +----------------------------------------------+
He already had it. But for your information, try
www.real.com/products/player/linux.html
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Accessing windows 98 files from Linux ?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:14:09 -0500
Richard Hudson wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a Dell Inspiron 7K laptop with Rage LT pro card,
> and am working through getting X to work.
I don't know if you found them but there are several web pages
devoted to how to configure the Inspiron for X. Try dejanews
We did it with RH6.0, but we found we had to downgrade the BIOS to
get it to work. This was explained on one of the web pages.
> I am relatively new to the Linux field and have Redhat 5.2. Also on the PC
> I have Win 98 and Win NT ( I know, I know boo hiss).
>
> One of my problems is that until I get RH 5.2 X and packages working
> comfortably I am having to using Win 98 to surf and get down loads from the
> net.
> I have found the excellant explore2fs but wondered if there was a
> program that went the other way so I could either copy files off a
> windows floppy onto linux, run a windows app that will copy both ways
> or run a linux app that could drap stuff from windows.
>
> Any perls (sic) of wisdom would be much appreciated.
>
> Richard Hudson
The simplest thing to do is to mount your Windows file system
under Linux---assuming you have a Windows partition on the
machine. For example, on my machine, I have the line
/dev/hda1 /win vfat defaults 1 2
in my /etc/fstab file. (I also created a directory /win
in my Linux file system). Then as root I can copy files
in either direction. As any user I can read or cp Windows
files from Linux. Make sure you reboot after changing fstab.
If you are not sure what you are doing, make a copy of the
file first, and be very careful about editing it. You can
also change it using linuxconf, and that may be more foolproof.
Generally you can copy to and from floppies using the Linux
package mtools. See the man page. For text files, either using
mtools or copy directly from a Windows partition, you always
have to worry about the fact that DOS/Windows files terminate
each line with a CR/LF (\r\n for Linux) and Linux text files
terminate each line with just a LF (\n, called a newline).
There are various short utilities for converting back and
forth. Try dejanews again. With mtools you use the -t
option.
One you have X and gnome working, you can arrange with linuxconf
to make your floppy mountable by any user. If you create a
symbolic link in .gnome-desktop to /mtn/floppy, then you will
get an icon on your desktop for the floppy. If a floppy disk
is in the drive, just double clicking on the icon will mount
the disk and open a file manager. Then you can copy back and
forth by dragging and dropping.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape minimizes spontaneously
Date: 18 Aug 1999 12:04:27 PST
Or, at least, it seems to just minimize for no particular reason.
As you probably guessed, I am a newby with Linux. Why would Netscape
just minimix seemingly for no reason? What can I do to fix this?
I am not sure if this would happen with other programs, because
at the moment I only use Netscape and telnet in Linux.
Thanks.
Neil
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