Linux-Misc Digest #457, Volume #21 Thu, 19 Aug 99 02:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: why not C++? (Tristan Wibberley)
Re: Caldera 2.2 ("Duy D.")
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Russ Allbery)
Help - can't restore a folder with tar -xp or cpio -im! (Nico Zigouras)
Re: Caldera 2.2 ("Christopher Lu")
Re: linux on microchannel (John Doe)
Re: Setting up an FTP server? (Steve Weiss)
netscape (Holczhammer Mark)
Re: mandrake versus redhat? (John Doe)
CONFIGURE KERNEL VARIABLES (Lijun Wang)
Re: Diskette Longevity (Richard Petty)
Re: logrotate: how to chattr +i properly? (Ding-Jung Han)
Re: *nix vs. MS security ("Duy D.")
Re: crontab ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What I think of linux. ("Allen Berge")
Re: problem on perl/tk (Eric)
Re: What I think of linux. ("Allen Berge")
Re: Sound problem with RH6 (Art Tsay)
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From: Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 01:54:26 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>
> On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 15:39:56 +0100, Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >While I'm not opposing your conclusion that C++ in kernel is bad, I
> >would like to take issue with two of the reasons you present below.
> >
> >Bjorn Reese wrote:
> >>
> >> To add salt to injury, you cannot use exceptions in global static objects
> >> because their constructors are executed before main(), and therefore
> >> cannot catch the exception.
> >
> >You can use exceptions in global static objects. You reserve the space,
> >and construct the objects in main using placement new. This is what you
> >do in C, and what you should do in C++.
>
> Right, but that is awfully inconvenient. What is the point of having global
> constructors then if you are going to call the constructions from main?
Exactly. Global constructors are rarely useful, there is not much point
to them (IMHO) except making C++ easier to start learning (and it means
more bugs early on, but you don't have to learn a great deal of new ways
to do things to get started).
> If you are going to go to all this trouble, you might as well just not use a
> constructor for doing the initialization. Have a default construtor that
> doesn't do anything heavy such as acquisition of resources. And then have an
> initialize() method which either returns false or throws or whatever. Then you
> don't have to mess around with crap like placement new.
You would normally not construct until you have some initialisation, C++
is unforgiving performance wise if you do.
> I find that in practice it's easier just to dynamically allocate the global
> object. That way you have control about the timing of its construction,
> and can catch exceptions and all that jazz.
Yes, my statement above can be used as part of an argument for not using
global static objects.
> >> I've also found it more difficult to debug C++ than C (especially the
> >> code of other people,) because (operator) overloading can make otherwise
> >> innocent looking code do much more than you had expected.
> >
> >This is the same as using c_integer_shift( myint, myshift ). It
> >shouldn't do anything more than shift the integer by the specified
> >amount, but it might.
>
> Funny you should say that, given that the shift operators are used for
> performing input and output in C++.
Yes, this is dumb, extremely dumb - it has made lots of people misuse
them because they see it in the standard. I never liked that at all.
Fortunately, they are just for simple hacked together code and you don't
have to demean yourself by using them :)
> >because people who are that dumb are not usually capable of writing a
> >kernel ;)
>
> Who wrote MacOS or Windows 98 then? ;)
Sorry, let me correct myself "people who are that dumb are not usually
capable of writing a *good* kernel" ;)
--
Tristan Wibberley
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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Caldera 2.2
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 03:56:07 +0000
Christopher Lu wrote:
> I checked cheapbytes.com and the only Caldera they offer is the official
> distribution release. If a cheap, premade copy is available somewhere I'm
> game.
www.linuxmall.com $1.89 + S/H.
> But I still prefer burning my own copy as I have a fairly fast
> connection (usually).
>
> Christopher Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:uYLu3.5142$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Anyone know where I can download the iso image file for Caldera OpenLinux
> > 2.2?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
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From: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
Date: 18 Aug 1999 22:15:32 -0700
In gnu.misc.discuss, Michael Coughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Taking the best ideas and selling them as an easy to use system is not
> what MIT is supposed to do. Once a system or programming language works
> well enough so anybody can use it, it is no longer an academic research
> project, and should be sold by a business that can offer commercial
> support. There is a big problem with academic research and commercial
> interests. How and when should university research be turned to making
> a profit instead of being done for the benefit of humanity?
This is sort of an interesting phrasing of this perspective, for a
crosspost between gnu.misc.discuss and a Linux group. I'd strongly
disagree with the contention that Linux has been "turned to making a
profit," for example. People are making a profit off of Linux, certainly,
but it's not the primary purpose of the development of the operating
system.
There are some fairly prominant software systems that have been supported
by universities for quite some time. Sticking with MIT as an example,
consider Kerberos. There are various other states a software project can
be in other than an academic research project or the property of a
business.
(There's also no need for the business to own the software in order for it
to offer commercial support.)
> But Unix and C were literary masterpieces. They were to computer
> programming as Shakespeare was to English.
Hm. I really don't agree with this either. Unix and C have been as
successful as they are precisely because they're *not* literary
masterpieces; they're flexible, low-level, and easy to port, and they
expose a lot of the hardware to people who need the operating system not
to hide the details they need to get work done.
LISP or Smalltalk or the like is a lot closer to a literary masterpiece
than Unix is. Unix is more like a plumber's helper.
> Linus saw all the C code published on the internet with the GNU license,
> and knew that one key program was missing -- a Unix clone kernal. If he
> could write that last part, he would have everything needed to have a
> full industrial strength clone of Unix on his 80386 home computer. Not a
> simple student Minix, but the real thing. This was a very difficult
> project for one student to do, so he did it.
I'd have to go look up the interviews with Linus on this subject again,
but this doesn't sound like the way I've heard him tell the story of the
beginnings of Linux. In particular, I've never gotten the impression that
he set out specifically to write the last remaining piece of the GNU
system; that part sort of just happened.
> But he also discovered something more important. If you publish your
> source under the GPL, lots of people on the internet can and will help
> you. Now Andrew Tannenbaum could have done the same thing. After all he
> is a professor, and the author of the important textbooks that Linus
> studied. But he didn't see the importance of the GPL. So the student
> beat the professor, and we have Linux instead of Tannenbaumix.
To be fair to Tannenbaum, I haven't gotten the impression he's interested
in doing what Linus did or being what Linus is. He's a professor and a
researcher and has always, to me, sounded more interested in theoretical
models of operating system construction than in doing the vast amounts of
(often very uninteresting theoretically) work Linus puts into maintaining
an implemented one.
--
Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <URL:http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
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From: Nico Zigouras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help - can't restore a folder with tar -xp or cpio -im!
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:58:38 -0400
Hi:
I am using RedHat 5.2.
Please help me. I try to restore a folder with this command:
tar -xp /usr/data/bird_data/point/
But it never returns. Should I wait longer or run it some other way?
Should I use cpio and if so, how would I restore above folder? Does it
just write over the current folder?
Thanks in advance. Please also reply to my email.
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From: "Christopher Lu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Caldera 2.2
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:47:20 GMT
I checked cheapbytes.com and the only Caldera they offer is the official
distribution release. If a cheap, premade copy is available somewhere I'm
game. But I still prefer burning my own copy as I have a fairly fast
connection (usually).
Christopher Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:uYLu3.5142$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Anyone know where I can download the iso image file for Caldera OpenLinux
> 2.2?
>
> Thanks
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe)
Subject: Re: linux on microchannel
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:47:01 -0500
On Wed, 18 Aug 1999 18:22:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I hope this question hasn't been answered a
>thousand times before; I can't seem to find
>anything definitive on installing any flavor of
>linux on an IBM PS/2 with an MCA bus. All the
>links I find are dead or old. I would prefer to
>use Red Hat but if there is another distribution
>that works well on the MCA, I'm open to ideas.
>THanks!
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I've heard that suse can handle mca. I forgot which verion
can do that; they just released 6.2. They should have a floppy image on
their ftp server.
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From: Steve Weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting up an FTP server?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:50:31 -0400
Yes, you need to set up a user account on the machine. Then ftp in as
that user. Make sure the user has a valid password (and a home
directory). Do 'man ftpd' for gory (but understandable) details about
setting things up.
-Steve
-~=Darek M=~- wrote:
>
> I am on a single user desktop here. It isnt networked with
> any other machine except the internet.
>
> I installed the wu_ftp rpm and when I ftp to localhost I
> get the wu ftp server ready prompt. But I do not seem to
> have ANY account setup for login. I read that right "out of
> the box" wu_ftp has set up default anonymous and guest
> accounts. I haven't edited the /etc/ftpaccess file. My
> question is, do I need to create the accounts in the system
> for the ftp server to use them? Like go and create a
> private ftp account in, say, linuxconf? Or can I specify
> the user login and passwords and privledges in the conf
> files.
>
> I tried to ftp to muself and only the 'ftp' account worked
> but even after I logged in, I got no directory listing nor
> where I was.
>
> PS: I was ftp'ing as root, maybe that's the problem. But I
> still need help setting it up. I tried to search the wu ftp
> site for docs but, surprisingly enough, found none. Only an
> FAQ that wasn't really any help to me.
>
> I guess the first thing I need cleared up is: If I want to
> set up a private account on my ftp, say login-gpl pass-
> replays, do I need to create that account in my Linux
> system?
>
> Thanx for any info or a pointer to a helpful HOWTO. The
> Redhat Linux unleashed book was of no help.
>
> Cheers.
>
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gin straight from the bottle." - Garrison Keillor
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From: Holczhammer Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
Subject: netscape
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:30:55 GMT
Hi,
If I follow a link, what is a mailto: the netscape communicator close
immediately exits. Why? How can I fix it?
I use debian.
thanX for Your help
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Doe)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: mandrake versus redhat?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 Aug 1999 00:56:41 -0500
On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:36:15 GMT, SS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm currently running Redhat 5.2, and am interested in upgrading. However,
>I am a bit at odds as to whether I should make a lateral move to the
>Mandrake distribution, which I have seen on the shelves everywhere. It
>seems just as good and as easy to use as Redhat, while also being a lot
>cheaper for the CD itself.
>
>Can anyone give me some advice as to which distribution would be the best
>choice? Please cc your response to my email address if that is possible.
>
>Regards
>
>Steve
>
>
I'm against going for mandrake if you are already happy with red hat.
I switched from rh 6 to m6 and now I'm back to rh 6.
Your mileage may vary; my problem may be is that I don't not install
kde or gnome on either system.
My decision to go back to rh 6 was because my ppp-off script won't work
with m6. Although I could force it to work I really hated how
m6 did things in general.
I am also pissed off with stupid linuxworld for choosing mandrake over
red hat.
They say pentium optimization is good. Big deal! There is absolutely
no frigging benchmark except the words from mandrakesoft. I am
completely astounded that stupid linuxworld just thinks highly
of m6 'pentium optimization' without coming up numbers on how
this stupid optimization affects the system performance.
To get to the point, if you are not addicted to
brain-dead-point-and-click thing and happy with red hat going for
mandrake will be a mistake.
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From: Lijun Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: CONFIGURE KERNEL VARIABLES
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:03:33 -0400
Can anyone tell me how to configure the Linux
kernel variables? When I tried to install Oracle
for Linux, it required me to set up such kernel
variables as: SHMMAX, SHMMIN, SHMSEG...
I am new to Linux, so please help me out.
Thanks in advance!
Lijun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Petty)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Diskette Longevity
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:52:22 GMT
In article <7pejko$2t4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello. I've been using the same floppy disk for the past two
>months, popping it in and out of my drives several times a day
>and transporting nearly everyday.
>
>Yesterday, I couldn't mount the disk because of some bad sector.
>(don't remember the error.) So my guess is the diskette just wore out.
>Fortunately, I still have my stuff on my hard drive.
>
>Now my question is:
>
>1. how long do floppy 1.2MB diskettes last?
>2. Are zip drives more robust?
>3. If a disk has a few bad sectors, is there anyway to recover what
> might be left on the good sectors? (Perhaps none of my data fell
> on the bad sectors) That is, is there some sort of Norton's
> Utilities for Linux?
I don't trust floppy disks anywhere near as far as I can throw them.
Floppies are only a little more reliable than cassette tape recorders for
storing data and not a whole lot faster.
Steve Jobs was right, in spite of all the Wintel complaining, to drop
floppies drives from Macs. Anything is better than floppies, and all those
iMac buyers (close to 2-million this year) seem to be doing nicely without
them.
Maybe there's something to learn there...
When a floppy goes bad, TRASH IT! Like a dog that has bitten, it can NEVER
be trusted again.
Well, that's my rant.
--Richard
(who's lost files on floppies)
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From: Ding-Jung Han <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: logrotate: how to chattr +i properly?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:45:52 -0400
Since there's no reply I guess the only way to do it is from
cron.daily/logrotate script?
Another question:
/var/log/xferlog {
# ftpd doesn't handle SIGHUP properly
nocompress
}
Why do we have nocompress here?
Ben
Ding-Jung Han wrote:
>
> To make my linux box a little more secured, I decided to chattr +i all
> gzipped log files under /var/log. My first try is put several lines in
> /etc/logrotate.d/syslog like these
>
> /var/log/messages {
> prerotate
> chattr -i /var/log/messages.*.gz
> chattr -a /var/log/messages
> endscript
> postrotate
> chattr +i /var/log/messages.*.gz
> chattr +a /var/log/messages
> /usr/bin/killall -HUP syslogd
> endscript
> }
>
> but it didn't work. Seems to me that prerotate section was not executed
> before logrotate trying to rename the existing gzipped messages files.
> And, from man page it says postrotate section is executed BEFORE the old
> messages file gets compressed -- that means there'll be always one
> messages file without +i protection.
>
> Any idea how to do this correctly? TIA,
>
> Ben
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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 04:14:34 +0000
Christopher Lu wrote:
> I'm taking a class on operating systems. During the last class, the
> instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
> Microsoft OS's. His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux) is
> free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure. Random people can
> hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the interrupts
> and stuff, since it's a free OS.
>
> I questioned the fact that the majority of servers on the internet use some
> flavor or *nix. He answered saying that only small size companies use *nix.
> Everyone else uses something more secure (he meant MS I'm assuming).
>
> I wanted to know what everyone here thinks about this. I'm a firm believer
> thatn *nix is a very stable, secure system. Granted I haven't had a whole
> lot of experience dealing with *nix but everything I've seen/read/heard has
> led me to that conclusion. But being naive when it came to *nix I was
> unable to counter my instructor with anything substantial.
>
> Thanks!
MS OSes are more secure than Linux. Huh???
Does your prof knows what BackOrifice 2000 (and thousands viruses) can do to MS
OSes???
Is he being paid by MS???
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: crontab
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:16:11 GMT
I don't know the crontab format off hand, nor do
I have a manual lying around but, I'll give it a shot:
Try to play around with it more.
Why do you have 8-1, dont you mean 8-13?
Are you sure you don't have the hours and minutes switched around?
What if you tried just 8, or 8,9,10,... instead of 8-1.
What if you specified an exact minute and hour?
Make sure you don't have an extra '*' in the shedule entry
right before /path/script
Replace /path/script with /bin/cat "hello there" >> /tmp/hello.txt
See what happens.
Are you getting any sort of error message?
Let me know how it goes.
-Godfrey Degamo,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <DJIu3.165$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i'm having problems with the crontab in redhat 6.
>
> the problem seems really stupid and i don't know if its me or not.
>
> eg 1)
> i have an entry like this.
> 0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 8-1 * * * /path/script
> i want the script to run every 5 minutes between 8am and 1am.
> this script does not run as required.
>
> eg 2)
> if i use
> */5 8-1 * * * /path/script
> this does not work either
>
> eg 3)
> if i use
> * * * * * /path/script
> it works fine (obviously not at the intervals i require)
>
> eg 2 works fine under slackware 3.4 and 3.6, but haven't tried eg 1.
>
> any suggestions? its driving me crazy.
>
> cheers
> tim
>
>
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "Allen Berge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:10:18 -0400
alann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, DistressedCanadian wrote:
> >I tend to agree with the original poster. I am a computer
> >scientist that is relatively new to the Linux world. I
> >encounter problems everyday. Most involve things that
> >would be simple tasks in windows.
> >
> >The fact that some things are made so easily in windows is
> >also one of it's weaknesses however. I like Linux to use
> >for programming and as a web server...
> >
> >But, for all of those people that think that Linux is the
> >next generation, you are sadly mistaken. The majority of
> >computer users are barely able to use Windows, let alone
> >something as complex as Linux.
> >
> You're right, somewhat. I would be curious as to the average age of Linux
> users. I'm 34. First computer I ever had my hands on was a Commodore
PET.
> That was a LONG time ago. Right now there are a gazillion Windows users.
>
> How many are over 40 and grew up in a generation that computers DIDN'T
exist?
> How many users used a computer with Windows for their "virgin" computer
> experience?
> Thats all they know.
>
> There are a lot of 8 year old's now that are more computer literate than
some
> 50 year olds. My son included.
>
> >As the second poster said, Linux was made by geeks for
> >geeks, and unfortunately it will probably always remain
> >so. I have to say that there is NO WAY Linux will ever
> >become mainstream... simply because of the lack of computer
> >savvy demonstrated by over 90% of PC users.
> >
>
> Nope, your wrong. Kids now have more computer skills than most "windows"
users.
>
> I see this now in my local linux user group. A lot of the members are
"kids"..
> HS'ers, college kids that know thier way around
> linux as much as I *WOULD* like to.. Today's kids at 8,9,10-15 that
master
> Windows are not going to be satisfied with "sh*tty software and OS's.
>
> Linux gives thier minds a chance to grow. I give M$ 10 years max.
> They might still be around, but they will be writing apps, not OS's..
> Todays kids will certainly make sure that happens.
Thats not true. Kids may have grown up using windows, but that doesn't make
the average kid more skilled than previous
generations. I started around highschool, commodore vic 20, and now at 34
have been using a computer in one form or another for 20 years. I don't
know how to do any programming, can't hack into a computer network, ect.
Kids will do what interests them, and most will use a computer to do the
same stuff we do. Chat with friends, download games, do homework ect. and
not have the slightest interest in doing anything more complicated than
that. Computer geeks are born, not made from being exposed to computers at
an early age. I'm betting that the average kid wouldn't have the slightest
interest in Linux. Not enough games, for one thing :)
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: problem on perl/tk
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 09:35:55 -0800
Jon Bloom wrote:(A lower-case 'u' in "use.")
> While you're at it, put "Hello World" in quotes, too.
>
> Jon
> --
> Jon Bloom, KE3Z
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Electronic Publications Manager (Software, CD-ROMs and Web site)
Dear Jon:
I change the U to small u and put " on Hello World,
but I got it run
Can't locate Tk.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 .) at ./hello.pl line2.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./hello.pl line 2
best regard
any tech reply would be highly appreciate
Eric Lin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Allen Berge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 01:29:46 -0400
DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jerry Lynn Kreps wrote:
> >
> > DanH wrote:
> > >
> > > Donn Miller wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, alann wrote:
> > > >
- 21 = 12 !!! You were programing a Cray when you were 12?
>
Yeah, I know those big drum hard drives. You can actually see the hard-disk
platters stacked inside.
Hard drives sure have gotten smaller. Used to break down those old computer
systems for salvage back in the early 80's.
They actually spun those drives with a huge 220V 3 phase electric motor and
a belt pully system. Always think of those things when I'm holding a PCMCIA
HD card in my hand. :)
> That's the one. I asked Dad to take me to work during the summer so I
> could see what he did and I found computers. Also learned big whirley
> tapes, large drum drives that looked like an extra-long cake cover and
> what Star Trek the game looked like when it was written for a text only
> screen and was command line driven. Then I found the BASIC code that
> wrote the game and decided I wanted more photon torpedos...
>
> Dan
> --
> UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore
> Linux - Choice of a GNU generation
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Art Tsay)
Subject: Re: Sound problem with RH6
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 05:51:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:21:26 +1200, Ross Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>It wasn't is /usr/sbin, but it was in /sbin, so I put them both in my
>path. But that just made it worse. After sndconfig detected the card and
>I hit OK, the whole system froze up; I had to do a hard reboot.
In this case and if you use RH 6.0 then it's the fault of sndconfig
that can't figure correct DMA. So, do it yourself.
Pls see isapnp howto.
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Art Tsay
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