Linux-Misc Digest #463, Volume #21               Thu, 19 Aug 99 15:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Does hotmole still work with MS HoTMaiL (Jayan M)
  Re: modules???? (Jayan M)
  Re: giving a 'lpr' command from within a C program (RHS Linux User)
  Re: Any free SQL server available? (Doug DeJulio)
  Re: Red Hat Linux (Gill Bates)
  Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs... (derly lytken)
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Mooo)
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Mooo)
  Re: Cracks for Linux? (Sean)
  Re: User Login? (Thomas Zajic)
  Re: Need Help w/ Modem--"Sorry modem is busy" error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Looking for a WWIV-like BBS for Linux (K. Eggleston)
  Re: Interested in using Linux (Teonanacatl)
  Re: *nix vs. MS security (Walter B Kulecz, PhD)
  **commands : make** (Ika Prasetyawan)
  Re: Netscape & Java (Steve Gage)
  Re: No core file (nightstalker)
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Brad BARCLAY)
  Re: Run at boot (Jason Lee)

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Crossposted-To: 
comp.mail,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does hotmole still work with MS HoTMaiL
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:55:16 GMT

Hey buddy,

This is a linux newsgroup, not the MICROS~! WINDOW~1

shoo shoo...

Jayan

"Pete G." wrote:

> Does anyone know if hotmole 1.0 still works with Microsoft's Hotmail?
>
> I know that Microsoft has made some security enhancements over the past
> month or two and the version of hotmole I have is from April.    At any rate
> ... I can't seem to get hotmole working.  (see below)   And the author's
> supportURL is DOA; which leades me to belive hotmole is no more.
>
> Any leads?
>
> (FYI: Hotmole was a GREAT program for reading/forwarding mail from Microsoft
> Hotmail.  Like a simple version of fetchmail for HTTP)
>
> - Pete
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----------==========[[[ HOTMOLE v1.0 rel. 1 (tcl) ]]]==========----------
>
> Command line processed ok.
> Examining Hotmail's front page...
> Redirected to http://lc3.law5.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/login...
> Logging in...1...1st curl failed
> addr = https://lc1.law5.hotmail.passport.com/cgi-bin/dologin
> params=login=myhmacct&passwd=myhmpswdl&frames=no
> 1st phase of login failed
> Error logging in to Hotmail. Exiting.




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Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modules????
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 22:31:11 GMT

dmesg won't show any eth0 specific stuff unless you have
configured the network (in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-eth0, for Redhat)

See if it recognized the card - look for the driver details ie - via-rhine
or so..
or try lsmod to see if your driver is loaded.

Jayan

Marc Ohmann wrote:

> ok, I installed via-rhine as a module -- at least as far as I know how.
>
> I ran "insmod via-rhine"
>
> I added the line "alias eth0 via-rhine" to /et/conf.modules
>
> I uncommented the line in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules for the via-rhine driver
>
> I rebooted and dmesg still doesn't comment on eth0.
>
> thanks again,
> marc




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RHS Linux User)
Subject: Re: giving a 'lpr' command from within a C program
Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:29:48 GMT

Hi, 

I used the following in a C++ program of mine, but it's in stdlib.h (I think), and if 
I'm not mistaken, that's a C library.

Give a look at the system() function.

As in...

system('ls');

or something like that.

I think it takes an array of char or something like that, I forget.

~Chris Greer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: i need to issue an 'lpr' que command from within my C program.

: i would be really grateful for a pointer.

: thanks.

: dave mallery
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: Any free SQL server available?
Date: 19 Aug 1999 13:22:18 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What's the deal with accessing PostgreSQL from Access and other
>Windows products? Any ODBC support?

The short answer: Yeup.

The longer answer: check out http://www.postgresql.org/ for details.

The very first item under "User Client Questions" in the FAQ is "Are
there ODBC drivers for PostgreSQL?", and there's more than one -- and
one of them gets you ODBC access via Unix, VMS, MacOS, *and* Windows
ODBC drivers.
-- 
Doug DeJulio      | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/

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From: Gill Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:40:49 GMT

If you are a newbie IMHO you should look up a Linux User Group in your area, and get
a free copy from them. That will also allow you to try before you buy, give you a
few other people that you can ask questions of and not have to wait at all for
replies. A really good book on the subject for newbies is" a complete Idiot's guide
to Linux" which is available at any Barnes and Noble book store.
Gill Bates
    C:\WINDOWS\RUN; C:\WINDOWS\CRASH; C:\ME;\FDISK; usr/src/linux

MarkW wrote:

> I have wanted to try Linux for some time and if I'm right Red Hat Linux is a
> good one to go with and 6.0 is the newest version.  I have seen this in stores
> but I have a option to buy it from someone and I just want to make sure I'm
> getting the correct version.  The CD says Red Hat 6.0 and below in parenthesis
> says (Hedwig-i386 ver.a).  I wasn't sure what that means.  It is made bya place
> called Cheap Bytes.  That's what it says on it and there is a 3.5" disk also
> with some .msg files.  Is that what I'd want to get?  Also, I am completely new
> to Linux and Unix and am interested in a good book to learn it.  I know nothing
> about it and will be using it on a 2nd computer for training and learning to use
> it, both as a workstation and may set it up as a server as well.  Thanks for any
> suggestions and help.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://pages.prodigy.net/markw1


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (derly lytken)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.os2.misc,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Comparing HPFS to ext2fs...
Date: 19 Aug 1999 17:45:42 GMT

Wed, 18 Aug 1999 23:35:35 skrev alex@ifurita. (Alex Taylor) noget  
lignende:

> It's also available separately, from the author.  I installed it under
> 2.2.5 and it works fine.  (I keep a HPFS partition for shared data,
> programming, config files, etc.  Zero problems so far.)

That's right as long as we talk about IDE drives. When speaking about 
SCSI-drives one have constantly both read and write errors.

> It's here:
> http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/vyplody/hpfs/index-e.cgi
> 
-- 
  \\derly, team os/2 dk

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mooo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:47:57 GMT

Brad BARCLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>       Once again, you're doing a whole lot of assuming of what a whole lot of
>people are going to do.  You've decided - without evidence - that IBM is
>going to drop OS/2 WARP v4 in the near future.  Now you're assumed that
>Project Odin is going to be dropped again.

Well, to be fair, the local IBM rep has forwarded me info to the
effect that support for Warp4 and Warp Server V4 finishes either Jan
2000 or Jan 2001 (I cant remember right now).

Now granted, a very similar thing happened with Warp 3, and the
fixpacks kept rolling on.

Its just difficult to see past the haze and try to imagine what IBM is
actually going to do.

For instance, does support drop in 200x for Warp4 because by then they
intend to have a Warp5?  Who knows?

This sort of FUD (in its truest sense - Fear Uncertanty and Doubt) is
what is scaring the willies out of a lot of current and would-be users
I think.

Craig


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mooo)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:48:01 GMT

"Doug Darrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On 18 Aug 1999 20:41:21 GMT, e-frog wrote:
>What he's really refering to is that they will no longer be releasing
>FixPacks for Warp 3, only Connect and newer. So which of those OTHER
>oses continues issuing fixes for releases 2+ generations back?

I could be mistaken, but I believe the only version of Warp3 still
supported is Warp Server 4 (built on Warp3).

Certainly FP41 would not apply to my Warp3 Connect Blue partition
until I replaced syslevel.os2 with the one from my Warp Server4
machine.

This may not be the case with MPTS or TCPIP fix's, its hard to tell as
there has not been anything released more recently than FP41.

Craig

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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Cracks for Linux?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:30:53 GMT

Sorry if I got you all mad.  I may be unethical and a newbie to Linux but
I'm not  moron.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: User Login?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:31:56 GMT

On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 02:32:25 GMT, Niann Shiang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I spent so many hours trying to debug a stupid login problem.  (And
> eventually, I was totally locked out from the system.  This drives me
> nuts.)  The login as a ordinary user works fine before.  For some
> mystery reason, login always gives error message (login incorrect).
> However, when I su from root twice to another account, the password
> works fine when asked. It appears that these user accounts and
> passwords work fine once getting into the system.  What caused this
> mystery login incorrect ?

If I understood you correctly, you can still login as root,
but not as any other user. In this case, login as root, do
a 'rm /etc/nologin', and see if it helps. If it does, do a
'man 5 nologin' to see why (stale /etc/nologin files are
usually caused by improperly terminated shutdown routines).

HTH,
Thomas
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-  "It is not easy to cut through a human head with a hacksaw."  (M. C.)  -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need Help w/ Modem--"Sorry modem is busy" error
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:02:29 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Mark McComb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robert Grizzard wrote:
> >
> > and I have to ask, "Do you have a file in /var/lock called something
like
> > 'LCK..ttyS1' or 'LCK..modem'?"
> >
>
> >
> > Not permissions; if you do have the LCK.. file then the modem is
actually
> > flagged as being in use by some other program and none other may
access it.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Rob
>
> I am getting the "modem is locked" message.  I checked and I do have
> a LCK..modem file.  Now what?  Do I delete it?  The file contains
this:
>
> 00798 kppp user
>
> I am trying to set up my modem for use with KPPP.  If it's the user,
why
> won't it unlock the file for itself?
>
I am awaiting a reply to this question myself, as I am a lurker with the
EXACT same problem.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Eggleston)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Looking for a WWIV-like BBS for Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:03:57 -0500

Hello,

I am looking for BBS software that is as close to the original WWIV 
experience as possible for Linux.  Open source code would be a nice perk 
as well, because I love to customize! (Free would be nice, too!)

I looked at Falken but am not extremely impressed with its features or 
the asinine policy of the author that "source code is not available to 
anyone under any circumstances".  Excuse me????  As if someone's going to 
rip of his BBS code and go make a million bucks with it.. give me a 
break.

Any tips would be appreciated!


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From: Teonanacatl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Interested in using Linux
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:23:31 -0600

You may wish to consult a page like  http://www.linuxworld.com  which
has their "prizes" for the different GNU/Linux distributions.  They
outline some of the major differences between the distributions.  

I have used slackware, Red Hat for Intel and Alpha, and recently SuSE
6.1 
I went to my local Hastings media store, and found the SuSE for $29.00 I
have been extemely impressed with SuSE. It came with a VERY
comprehensive manual for both installation and use of SuSE, and a very
extensive compilation of programs on 5cds.  Perhaps these later REd Hat
versions are up to speed, but as a red had user from 4.0 onward, I have
been somewhat disappointed with them.  But all in all, you won't be
disappointed with ANY recent distribution.   

One thing I can tell you is that I had to really start chopping my
winpart to install this 6.1 version.  It comes with KDE environment,
which is EXTREMELY cool and easy to use.  Simply, an elegant and
intuitive interface.  However, I had to Pick and Choose which programs
to load, because I had just over 800mb free on this drive.  This was the
practice run, because now I'm going to delete my existing Red Hat
installation on the larger laptop drive, and will then be able to devote
upto 2.1gb to SuSE.  So, this was essentially a practice run, installing
it on this laptop drive.  It was an extremely tight squeeze getting a
running networked system on 800mb.  But, you wouldn't want a smaller
install, because you might give up some of this basic functionality. 
Once you see and use a great environment, you won't want to give it up,
OR go back.  

Good Luck,
-- 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walter B Kulecz, PhD)
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:56:46 GMT

In article <7pfiel$fk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Alan Sparks" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think Christopher should switch to another professor, and get his money
>back.  College profs are more useful and educational when they've seen the
>real world.

Man, its down right scary that such lamers are allowed teaching 
credentials these days.

My friend owns a computer store and this "kid" came in asking for an 
ethernet card.  My buddy, knowing nothing about NT, asked me and I 
told him what I was using in my NT box.  Next week the kid returned 
the card because it "didn't work with NT".  I checked the disk and 
pointed out the driver and *.inf file to use but the kid didn't want 
to hear it -- "the expert had spoken".

Seems that because the card wasn't recognised by Microsoft's NT 
installation/setup program it, "didn't work with NT" according to his 
"instructor".  I'm sure this future MSCE will be a real ASSet to his 
future employer.

What's even scarier is the number of ads I see listing MSCE as a 
job "requirement".

--wally.


>Read the trade press.  Many of the largest companies rely on UNIX.
>-Alan
>
>>Christopher Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>>news:T1Eu3.4862$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>>> I'm taking a class on operating systems.  During the last class, the
>>> instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
>>> Microsoft OS's.  His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux)
>>is
>>> free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure.  Random people can
>>> hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the interrupts
>>> and stuff, since it's a free OS.
>
>

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From: Ika Prasetyawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: **commands : make**
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:56:20 +0000

I tried to install LICQ into my machine and I've gone as far as
configuration and ready to compile the source code. But when I tried to
launch command : "make". It says "command not found". There must be some
development tools I have not installed yet.

Anybody got any suggestion as what to install before you can use this
"make" commands.

I am a newbie and just got Mandrake6.0 on my machine working about 1
week ago.

Thanks in advance.

-ika-


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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape & Java
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:22:24 GMT

"Scott W. Kinkele" wrote:
> 
> I am running RH6.0 & Linux 2.2.10-ac5.  When using Netscape Communicator
> 4.61 and accessing a page that uses Java Netcape exits.  It doesn't do a
> core dump it just exists.  Anyone have any idea why this occurs?
> 
> Thanks,
> Scott

It's a problem with RH's fontpath. They have a fix in the FAQ on their
site.

- Steve

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From: nightstalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: No core file
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:00:05 GMT

Kyle Jamieson wrote:

> I am trying to generate a core file when my program crashes, with no
> luck.  I have typed unlimit in the shell, yet when my program seg
> faults, I get no core file anywhere.  Is there another way of
> controlling whether a core file is generated

try abort(); (defined in stdlib.h)



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From: Brad BARCLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:00:22 -0400

Mooo wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (e-frog) wrote:
> 
> >Warp 3 came waaaay back before Win95 came out and it is _still_ being
> >supported.
> 
> warp 3, Warp Connect are no longer supported except in a few
> circumstances where you might have a long term support contract in
> place already with IBM (ie, you cant buy one now).
> 
> Thats fair enough as the OS is quit old now, and has logically been
> replaced with Warp4
> 
> The problem is that official support for Warp4 is, by IBM's own
> support documents, going to be dropped soon.  Don't believe me?  Ask
> your local rep.

        Take a look at the URL:

                http://www.as.ibm.com/asww/sl/products/

        I just checked the end-of-life date for OS/2 WARP v4 base OS, and it's
listed as January 31st, 2001 - a year and a half form now.  The end of
life date for OS/2 WARP Server for e-business is listed as May 31st,
2002.

        This is a publicly available document, so anyone who wants to can
verify these dates for themselves.  Note, however that these dates can
potentially differ from country to country.  Also note that these
planned dates can be pushed back by IBM at any time (which can happen if
a replacement product isn't going to be available in time).

        The documents listed at the above mentioned URL also mention IBM's
planned end-of-support dates for several Microsoft OS's as well. 
Windows NT v4's end of support date is on December 31st, 2001 - not even
a year after WARP v4 client's end of support date, and well before
WSEB's end of support date.
 
> As far as fixpacks are concerned, Warp4 might still have a lot of
> 'support' left - the trouble is that no-one actually knows (outside of
> IBM I assume).

        Well, you do now.  As mentioned before, the above is publicly
available, and is linked to from the OS/2 WARP v4 fixpak site :).
 
> Staroffice might very well turn out to the be reason I CAN stay with
> OS/2, but a plethora of problems are on the horizen.  Almost no
> development is now going into 3rd party apps for DOS or Win3.1
> (without Win32S V1.3), the logical conclusion being that everyone
> apparently is using win95/98 (screams of anguish from me).

        This can actually be a good thing for the OS/2 community - as we slowly
wean ourselves off DOS and Windows applications, this support in OS/2
will no longer be needed, saving all of us hard disk space, and
improving system performence (the OS can be run entirely in protected
mode).

        Personally, IIRC I have only one DOS application and two Win16
applications installed on my machine at home - Tomb Raider Gold (which 
recently decided to replay in what little free time I have :), and two
simple Win16 based card game programs a family member likes to play
(cribbage and canasta).

        Of course, a recent study as shown that your logical conclusion may not
be entirely accurate - alot of developers are moving from Windows to
Java and web-based technologies (such as JavaScript, Java Servlets,
server-side CGI, etc).  There are a number of traditional applications
which are now available as webpages and Java applets/applications.

        I don't think that OS/2's situation is as gloomy as some here would
like to make it out to be especially when one is presented with the
facts :).
 
        Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]            Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Lee)
Subject: Re: Run at boot
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 18:30:24 GMT

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:27:57 -0500, "Richard Berrilljr (CD)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I'm looking for a way other than chmod u+s and putting it in the rc.local
>file to run a program at boot as a specific user.  If anyone knows how
>this could be accomplished it would be greatly appreciated.

I can't remember the exact syntax off the top of my head, but try

  su <user> -c '<command>'

You can either put that in rc.local or put a script in init.d (on RH
at least).  postrges does this to run the postmaster as the postgres
user.  That's where I found that trick, but I can't get to a machine
that is running pgsql to verify that.  Hope that helps...

(Note the spam block)


Jason Lee           | Don't believe another song could ever change the world.
Programmer/Analyst  | Don't believe that little boys grow up to be little girls.
www.rri-medtech.com | Don't believe that wishing ever really made it so.

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