Linux-Misc Digest #463, Volume #25 Wed, 16 Aug 00 13:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can't modify inetd.conf file (Shawn E. Corkery)
Re: cpio or tar backup and restore (Bob Hauck)
Re: Can't modify inetd.conf file (Shawn E. Corkery)
Notebook/Windows rebate? (Nobody Needs to Know)
Re: can I create root equivalent users? (Bob Hauck)
Change from KDE to GNOME ("Michael")
Re: File transfer from NT to Linux and save ownership (Bob Hauck)
Re: view image: xv or what? (Bob Hauck)
Re: Notebook/Windows rebate? ("Dave Furniss")
Re: Oh !@# I just wiped my RPM database ("Chris Ripp")
identifying the box (Kerry Cox)
Re: Change from KDE to GNOME (Kerry Cox)
newsgroup reader??? (Davis Eric)
Re: streaming-video software? ("Marcel Post")
Re: Move /var (Alex)
Re: Dreamweaver port for Linux? (Garry Knight)
Re: Can't modify inetd.conf file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux Directory Handling (Garry Knight)
Re: trackers for linux, dosemu and dos trackers (Garry Knight)
Re: vfat is not vfat but ext2: thanks for your help ("Davide Sanna - Tiscali S.p.A.")
Re: Busy cdrom (fred smith)
Re: Change from KDE to GNOME ("Jeff Audette")
Re: apache and homepage
Re: How do I show all open files?
Re: view image: xv or what?
Re: Oh !@# I just wiped my RPM database (ian holsman)
Re: Notebook/Windows rebate? (Nathaniel Jay Lee)
Re: newsgroup reader??? (Patrick M Geahan)
Re: Help! reboot command doesn't work (John Hasler)
Re: Linux Directory Handling (Brian V. Smith)
Re: Notebook/Windows rebate? (Craig Kelley)
Re: Busy cdrom (Dave Barcelo)
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From: Shawn E. Corkery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't modify inetd.conf file
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:00:39 GMT
> :> is the partition mounted read only ?
> :>
>
> : Nope, it's read-write.
>
> Prove it. Don't just say so. What makes you think it is?
I issued a mount command and it says that it's RW and I've been able to
modify other files in /etc
> reply BELOW the quote, for gawd's sake! - reformatted).
sorry
>
> It appears to be mounted readonly, according to the test. Try
> echo ho > /hello ! And have a look at what tune2fs tells you.
>
I'm not familiar with tune2fs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: cpio or tar backup and restore
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:25:44 GMT
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:56:12 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i know your not suppose to backup proc, but when you do a restore, how
>do you get the proc directory back on the filesystem?
Just "cd /; mkdir proc", then put the appropriate mount line in
/etc/fstab.
Proc is a mounted filesystem. You simply create the mount point and
then put the appropriate lines in /etc/fstab (which you should back up
and so don't actually need to retype to restore).
cd /
mkdir proc
You can back up /dev with cpio. It "does the right thing" by default.
But don't even try to back up /proc, as doing that can sometimes hang
your machine real good, as some /proc files are images of your system's
memory and io ports.
I personally use Karel Kubat's ancient-but-still-fine "tob" scripts to
do backups with cpio. Look on Freshmeat.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: Shawn E. Corkery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't modify inetd.conf file
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:21:34 GMT
In article <8ne9u0$16ua$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Markus Grossmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Shawn E. Corkery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:8ne8o3$qnb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <8ne634$cp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Shawn E. Corkery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > : This is really wierd. I'm logged on as root and I'm trying to
> > modify
> > > : the inetd.conf file. When I try to save my changes I get the
> > > : message "readonly option is set (use ! to override)", I use w!
and I
> > > : get the following message "Can't open file for writing".
> > >
> > > Well, obviously that FS is mounted readonly. Hardly "weird".
> > >
> > > : I did an ls -l on inetd.conf and instead of root.root as the
owner
> > it
> > > : was root.mygroupname. I have no idea how it got my group name
on
> > that
> > > : file, but when I try chown root.root inetd.conf I get the
> > > : following "operation not permitted". If I try chgrp root
> > inetd.conf I
>
> Try a ls -ln /etc/inetd.conf to see, what uid and gid is set for that
file.
> (Should be 0 0)
> Then have a look at /etc/passwd and /etc/group if everything is ok
> with that. (Should be root:x:0 both times).
> If not, tell us what you see.
>
ls -ln /etc/inetd.conf
-rw-rw-r-- 1 0 500 2894 Aug 8 14:57 inetd.conf
ls -ln /etc/group
-rw-rw-r-- 1 0 0 556 Aug 16 10:37 group
ls -ln /etc/passwd
-rw-rw-r-- 1 0 0 932 Aug 16 10:37 passwd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nobody Needs to Know)
Crossposted-To:
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Subject: Notebook/Windows rebate?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:29:59 -0700
Howdy, folks.
I'm looking at buying a new notebook, but I have no need/desire for
Windows. A friend of mine recently told me that there's some way to
return your unopened bundled copies of Microsoft software to Microsoft for
a rebate. Anybody know anything about this? I'm probably going to get a
Dell Inspiron 5000, but Dell INSISTS that you MUST have Windows 98 and
Office SBE. You can't opt out of them. If there's some way to get a
rebate on these things, I'd certainly love to know how. Alternatively, if
there's some readily available resale market on them, I'd be happy to do
that, too.
Thanks,
-- David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can I create root equivalent users?
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:19:55 GMT
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:51:27 -0400, jtoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have a few different linux boxes running slackware, redhat, and
>mandrake at home. Is it possible to create a user account that has
>root access, but with a different name besides root?
Yes, just make another account with UID 0.
>I know its a bad idea and I should just 'su' around
Yes, it is a bad idea. Don't do it. Newbie admins _always_ come up
with this idea sooner or later and it is still a bad idea.
>It mandrake you can use linuxconf to give users extra privileges, but
>I want to know how to do it from the prompt
Several ways. Make special groups to put your priviledged users in,
and make the necessary changes to file permissions. Or install "sudo"
and configure the commands each user can run as root. It can be set up
to not even require a password if a priviledged user is running the
command.
The big advantage of doing one of these instead of having multiple root
accounts is the audit trail, particularly if you have process
accounting enabled. All root accounts are equivalent because they have
UID 0, so they will all be logged the same. sudo in particular is very
good about logging exactly who did what as root.
You can find sudo through <http://www.freshmeat.net/>.
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-| Bob Hauck
-| Codem Systems, Inc.
-| http://www.codem.com/
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From: "Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Change from KDE to GNOME
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:40:21 GMT
Anyone know how to change my default desktop from KDE to GNOME?
Thanks...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: File transfer from NT to Linux and save ownership
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:28:33 GMT
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:49:29 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok, does anyone know how to transfer files from NT to Linux and keep
>ownership?
smbtar?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: view image: xv or what?
Reply-To: hauck[at]codem{dot}com
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:29:37 GMT
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:46:21 -0400, Lily Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I used to use xv to view image on Unix,
>is there an utility to view image on Linux (redhat)?
xv
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From: "Dave Furniss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Notebook/Windows rebate?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:46:52 +0100
One of the reasons you must have the package is that they clone their PC's
and so have a standard copy they install on all PC's. It would be more work
for them to fit a blank, Formatted hard drive.
Officially you can return the software to Microsoft, but I don't know how
successful you would be if you tried. Contact Microsoft and find out (get
it in writing), but beware, they may only offer you a rebate to use against
Microsoft software and not a cash refund. Also, you would own an OEM version
of the software and not the Retail version, so you may run into problems
there. My guess would be that they would put the responsibility back on the
software provider (DELL) rather than Microshaft themselves!!!
Nobody Needs to Know wrote in message ...
>Howdy, folks.
>
>I'm looking at buying a new notebook, but I have no need/desire for
>Windows. A friend of mine recently told me that there's some way to
>return your unopened bundled copies of Microsoft software to Microsoft for
>a rebate. Anybody know anything about this? I'm probably going to get a
>Dell Inspiron 5000, but Dell INSISTS that you MUST have Windows 98 and
>Office SBE. You can't opt out of them. If there's some way to get a
>rebate on these things, I'd certainly love to know how. Alternatively, if
>there's some readily available resale market on them, I'd be happy to do
>that, too.
>
>Thanks,
> -- David
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From: "Chris Ripp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh !@# I just wiped my RPM database
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:08:26 -0500
"Bob Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ian holsman wrote:
> >
> > I was upgrading to rpm 4, and I fried my existing rpm database
> > any easy ways to recover this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> use the --rebuilddb option
> --
>
> Bob Martin
This happened to me as well upgrading to version 4. Simply doing a
'rpm --rebuilddb' doesn't work straight away. Go into /var/lib/rpm, and
rename 'Packages' to something else first. (I used 'Packs' but it really
doesn't matter.) *Then* do a 'rpm --rebuilddb --dbpath /var/lib/rpm'
Go get a soda, have a smoke take a nap, whatever, it takes a bit, but it
worked.
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From: Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: identifying the box
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:57:31 -0600
I have a Linux box with two IP addresses. One is the real address and
the other is for a virtual domain hosted on the same box. Whenever I log
into another Linux box it recognizes this machine as the virtual host. I
do not wish that.
What file do I change to have it recognize the box as the regular name
and not the virtual host? Is this a DNS issue or someting I can change
on my own box?
Thanks.
KJ
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From: Kerry Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change from KDE to GNOME
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:00:00 -0600
Michael wrote:
>
> Anyone know how to change my default desktop from KDE to GNOME?
>
> Thanks...
Depends on what flavor of Linux you are running. Using Red Hat 6.2 I
simply fire up "switchdesk" and then select one or the other.
Good luck.
KJ
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From: Davis Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newsgroup reader???
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:54:34 GMT
Hi, there,
Just a simple question. What is the newsgroup reader program in Linux,
say RH6.2? And how about in Sun OS?
Thanks
Davis
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From: "Marcel Post" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: streaming-video software?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:02:44 GMT
> > The idea is that if someone connects to my website, a live stream of
video,
> > coming from my webcam is delivered to the client in realvideo format.
> >
> > What free software is available for linux to do this?
> The basic Real server is free.
> I use it to stream audio.
>
> -Joe
Hi Joe,
Do you feed it with audio from your linux, or via a connected machine inside
your own network?
Because I'm still not sure about linux supporting my usb cam. Any experience
with that?
Marcel
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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Move /var
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:04:12 -0400
"Prasanth A. Kumar" wrote:
> You probably don't want to do this in the normal boot level
> particularly if you get lots of email or other transitory
> data. Instead...
>
> The safe way to do this would be to boot into single mode, format the
> new var partition, copy the data over (perhaps cp -aR) then modify
> fstab to add the additional partition, rename the old var directory
> and finally reboot.
>
Thanks for the information. I got it working without much hassle.
:-)
Alex.
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight)
Subject: Re: Dreamweaver port for Linux?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:03:49 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, nospam@david-
steuber.com says...
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight) writes:
>
>' Applixware, StarOffice and WordPerfect all include the ability to design
>' HTML pages in WYSIWYG mode.
>
>There's no such thing as WYSIWYG HTML. And there is a lot more to
>site design than writing a few documents. Publishing large amounts of
>interesting content goes far beyond mere HTML.
I quite agree. Maybe I should have said "as near WYSIWYG as you're
likely to get".
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can't modify inetd.conf file
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:58:14 GMT
> > > Well, obviously that FS is mounted readonly. Hardly "weird".
Obviously some people are lacking a bit in the Linux world. People on
here are looking for help, not looking to get a smart-ass response. How
about taking everything into consideration next time.
ANYWAY, the easiest way to find out if your fs is mounted read-write or
read-only is to issue the 'mount' command:
=====
: linux8 2#; mount
/dev/sda2 on / type ext2 (rw)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
=====
If the '(rw)' is showing up on your output, then you're cool.
Also, just to be sure, 'cd' into /etc and do a 'df .' to see where /etc
is mounted. If you see something like...
=====
: linux8 3#; cd /etc
: linux8 4#; df .
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 8610104 624796 7547940 8% /
=====
...then you're good there, too.
You've also checked all the permissions, which really have no affect as
long as your logged in as root. They seem to be good, as well, except
for the permissions on the files themselves. -rw-rw-r-- should probably
go to -rw-r--r-- (do this with 'chmod 644'). (What distribution is
this?)
The only other thing I can think of would be the files attributes.
Run 'lsattr /etc/inetd.conf'. What's the output? If it's something
like this...
=====
: linux8 8#; lsattr /etc/inetd.conf
----i--- /etc/inetd.conf
=====
...then that's the reason you're not able to write the file or change
its permissions/ownership. The 'i' means that the file is immutable,
and nothing can be done to it, even as root. To modify the attributes,
issue 'chattr -i /etc/inetd.conf' and then re-issue the 'lsattr' command
from above. You should then see...
=====
: linux8 8#; lsattr /etc/inetd.conf
======== /etc/inetd.conf
=====
...which will make the file writeable once again. Make your changes and
you're set.
The only way these things can get modified is if someone (as root)
issued the command. I don't think that any of the files are immutable
by default (at least in Slackware, that is).
Try those things and let me know if any of this helps.
Hope so...
-rd
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight)
Subject: Re: Linux Directory Handling
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:03:53 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>Thank you. pushd popd are useful when you know where you where earlier and
>you have to identify them before you go there.
>
>My expectation is like this....
>
>If I was in the 10th subdir., I have to back 5 subdire
>ctories backwards(ie cd ../../../../../) and from there to the
>subdirectory sdir5a/sdir5b.
>
> #dir/sdir1/sdir2/sdir3/sdir4/sdir5/sdir6/sdir7/sdir8/sdir9/sdir10(my
>current dir)
> ....../sdir5a/sdir5b(where I want to go)
I think I understand. It seems to me that what you need is something
like a CDPATH variable that contains a list of directories you visit
frequently (or at least directories which *contain* those directories as
subdirectories, so that when you type in "cd sdir5b" it checks each
directory in the list and, if it finds it has a subdirectory called
"sdir5b", it changes to it.
The bash shell implements this feature.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Garry Knight)
Subject: Re: trackers for linux, dosemu and dos trackers
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:03:50 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <tSqm5.982$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>Are there any good trackers for Linux?
I don't know about good, because I haven't got around to trying any yet,
but you could try looking at http://beast.grk.org and doing a search
for tracker-4.3-linux.tar.gz - try FreshMeat (http://www.freshmeat.net).
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From: "Davide Sanna - Tiscali S.p.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: vfat is not vfat but ext2: thanks for your help
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:13:48 +0200
Eric wrote:
>
> No danger whatsoever, the partition ID has nothing to do with the actual
> filesystem on the disc. (Although windows seems to think it does).
> The situation you have now, you can change with (c)fdisk. All that will
> change is that windows will no longer report a drive with a seriously
> damaged filesystem on it (It is not damaged Bill! you just don't
> recognize it!)
> and requesting if should format that disc for you.
Yes, I know this annoying problem: this is like saying
"I don't know how to recognize you so I think it's better for you to change
into Microsoft World...". I've read there's a way to bypass this using
another hd for Linux and disable it via BIOS so, after installing Windows,
it will believe there's only one hd where it is installed: You know that
Linux won't have this problem (eh eh), you will install it and
Windows won't see Linux...
> For linux it doesn't matter at all, so you can leave it as is if you
> prefer that, but as I said, you can change it too, without any bad
> side-effects.
>
> Eric
>
Thanks Eric!
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Busy cdrom
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:27:16 GMT
Dave Barcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dave Barcelo wrote:
:> >I am trying to unmount my cdrom and the mount command keeps telling me
:> >it is busy. I tried to see if there were any open files on it using
:> >lsof and there aren't. Nor is it the cwd for any processes.
:> >
:> >Can anyone help?
:> >Dave
:>
:> Try using fuser.
<huge snippage>
: [root@taz ~]# umount /dev/cdrom
Have you tried:
umount /mnt/cdrom ???
<more huge snippage>
: What do you think? btw thanks for the help.
: Dave
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From: "Jeff Audette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change from KDE to GNOME
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:25:01 -0700
assuming that you installed gnome already......
edit the file /etc/X11/xinit/Xclients
add "gnome-session" to the PREFERRED= line
ie. PREFERRED=gnome-session
"Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:FBym5.170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Anyone know how to change my default desktop from KDE to GNOME?
>
> Thanks...
>
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apache and homepage
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:29:40 GMT
johndmiller wrote:
>
>
> I have compiled apache and now I can't find where it is storing it's
> pages. It used to be /home/httpd/html but when I renamed the
> index.html file the page still shows up. I need to know if there is a
> file that I can look in to see where it is storing it's index.html
> page.
>
> TIA
> John
the default location for the latest version of apache
is /usr/local/apache/html the config file is in /usr/local/apache/conf
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I show all open files?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:29:40 GMT
the command is lsof -u "username"
Note you must use the "
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote:
>
>
> Dave Barcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How do I show all open files that my users have open?
>
> lsof (shows all open files)
>
>
> --
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> Department of Biomedical Engineering
> Duke University
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: view image: xv or what?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:29:40 GMT
Lily Fu wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I used to use xv to view image on Unix,
> is there an utility to view image on Linux (redhat)?
>
> thanks,
>
> Lily
>
xv is not part of the installation from the redhat cd, the rpm can be
found on the power tool cd or you can download the source and make you own
(much more fun)
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From: ian holsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oh !@# I just wiped my RPM database
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:29:40 GMT
Bob Martin wrote:>> ian holsman wrote:> >> > I was upgrading to rpm 4, and I fried my
existing rpm database> > any easy ways to recover this?> >> > Thanks> >>> use the
--rebuilddb option> -->I tried... it is still coming up blank ;(> Bob Martin
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From: Nathaniel Jay Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Notebook/Windows rebate?
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:28:01 -0500
Nobody Needs to Know wrote:
>
> Howdy, folks.
>
> I'm looking at buying a new notebook, but I have no need/desire for
> Windows. A friend of mine recently told me that there's some way to
> return your unopened bundled copies of Microsoft software to Microsoft for
> a rebate. Anybody know anything about this? I'm probably going to get a
> Dell Inspiron 5000, but Dell INSISTS that you MUST have Windows 98 and
> Office SBE. You can't opt out of them. If there's some way to get a
> rebate on these things, I'd certainly love to know how. Alternatively, if
> there's some readily available resale market on them, I'd be happy to do
> that, too.
>
> Thanks,
> -- David
There's two things you could do. If you insist on buying Dell, they do
offer Linux on 'some' of their laptop configurations, you just won't
have some of the options available to those who purchase Windows. The
other thing you could do is purchase straight from a Linux based
dealer. Something like http://www.tuxtops.com is a good place to look.
But I think most of their laptops are based on Sony products. There are
others available. But Dell will sell you a laptop pre-loaded with Linux
(but like I said, you can't get certain options.)
Start here http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/topics/linux_linuxhome.htm if
you want to have a shot at buying a Dell computer pre-loaded with
Linux. That seems to be the base homepage for Linux on Dell computers.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nathaniel Jay Lee
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From: Patrick M Geahan<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newsgroup reader???
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:50:08 GMT
Davis Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, there,
> Just a simple question. What is the newsgroup reader program in Linux,
> say RH6.2? And how about in Sun OS?
IIRC, tin and slrn ship with RH6.2. I've used tin and know people who
have used slrn on SunOS/Solaris.
As another tack, I believe Netscape ships with a newsreader as well.
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Quote of the Week: "I can't believe I barfed in Harrison Ford's
helicopter" - hiker rescued by actor Harrison Ford in Wyoming.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help! reboot command doesn't work
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:50:12 GMT
David writes:
> We got hacked a while back... If that gives any clues.
If you got cracked (_not_ "hacked") you must reinstall.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux Directory Handling
Date: 16 Aug 2000 16:49:14 GMT
In article <8ne5r5$n7o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, The Great Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
|> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
|> <snip>
|>
|> > pushd .
|> > cd ../../../..
|> > do stuff
|> > pushd
|> >
|>
|> last line should be
|> popd
Not if you would like to be able to go back and forth. Then you can just
use pushd without any arguments (after the above sequence).
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Brian V. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www-epb.lbl.gov/BVSmith
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
Check out the xfig site at http://www-epb.lbl.gov/xfig
To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the
glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big
as it needs to be.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: Re: Notebook/Windows rebate?
From: Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 16 Aug 2000 10:45:08 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nobody Needs to Know) writes:
> Howdy, folks.
>
> I'm looking at buying a new notebook, but I have no need/desire for
> Windows. A friend of mine recently told me that there's some way to
> return your unopened bundled copies of Microsoft software to Microsoft for
> a rebate. Anybody know anything about this? I'm probably going to get a
> Dell Inspiron 5000, but Dell INSISTS that you MUST have Windows 98 and
> Office SBE. You can't opt out of them. If there's some way to get a
> rebate on these things, I'd certainly love to know how. Alternatively, if
> there's some readily available resale market on them, I'd be happy to do
> that, too.
Microsoft may tell you to return the laptop, but here's the best way
to go about it:
http://linuxmall.com/refund/
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Dave Barcelo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Busy cdrom
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:54:42 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Have you tried:
>
> umount /mnt/cdrom ???
Yes I have. resulting message:
[root@taz ~]# umount /mnt/cdrom
[mntent]: line 8 in /etc/mtab is bad
umount: /mnt/cdrom: device is busy
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