Linux-Misc Digest #578, Volume #21 Sun, 29 Aug 99 06:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$ (Robert Heller)
Re: 3COM Ethernet Card Problem (Robert Heller)
insmod: 'couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for' (Robert
Heller)
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Paul Kimoto)
Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$ (stephen chan)
Re: Any Voodoo 3000 (OEM) drivers for Linux ? (stephen chan)
Re: Multiple-OS Waveblaster II problem (Ken Arromdee)
Patched wu-ftpd 2.5.0 available... ("P.P.Foong")
Re: why not C++? (david parsons)
Re: new to linux (Peter Thatcher)
Re: Color printig in Caldera 2.2 only B/W on DJ 690C. ("William B. Cattell")
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Jaap van Hengstum)
Re: why not C++? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: sendmail relaying external mail (Olaf Walkowiak)
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Hans Wolters)
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:27:07 GMT
kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:30:04 +0100, wrote :
k> Hi,
k>
k> Well it's just done it again! I'm using Red Hat 6, and every now and
k> then, it just decides to log me out, thus losing all unsaved information
k> from the apps I had open. It doesn't give any hint that anything is
k> wrong, it just logs me out. This is _very_ annoying. What was that about
k> Linux being the stablest OS there is?
Is the maching *crashing* and rebooting or are you just 'suddenly'
presented with a Login: prompt? Generally, linux does not crash unless
there is a hardware fault. If you have a bleeding edge video card and/or a
mis-configure X11 setup, the X server could be crashing. Also, if your
sound card is mis-configured or something like that, you could be having
problems. Are you on a laptop and don't have APM configured properly?
This too will cause problems.
Can you tell us *exactly* what your machine is doing. 'every now and
then, it just decides to log me out' is somewhat vague. Please tell us:
1) Are you running X11 (GUI)?
2) Are you using startx (B&W console login) or xdm (colorful GUI
login with Tux in a red hat)?
3) Is the machine *crashing* (i.e. 'kernel panic', rebooting,
etc.)?
4) If it is X11 that is dieing, what kind of video board do you
have? Which X server? Which window manager?
k>
k> So I'm forced to appeal to you guys to give me some insight into what is
k> wrong. Again. I've had so many problems with RH6, I spend far too much
k> time trying to fix problems when I should be using it to be productive.
k>
k> Do non-Red Hat users have these problems?
I have Red Hat (5.2) on two computers here. No problems, other than
the laptop not having a working LCD panel and a storm related power
failure last night (which took my main system down, but it happily did
its fsck on power restore and was happy). I've been re-booting the
laptop every few minutes, but that is because I am working on building
a boot/root floppy set in preparation of getting a replacement laptop
and want to see if I can manage to just to a backup restore, over the
ethernet from a floppy boot, rather than hassle with a fresh install
(can be a total pain for a laptop).
I deal with numerous Linux boxes, all running some flavor of Red Hat
Linux (most RH 5.2, some RH 5.1, some RH 6.0).
The only problems I've head about with RH 6.0 relate to problems with
gnome or KDE being a bit flacky under some situations.
The other other problems were due to silly operator error (messing up
/etc/fstab and loosing the /dev/ptys file system, etc.).
k>
k> Thanks,
k>
k> - Kev
k>
k>
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3COM Ethernet Card Problem
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:27:10 GMT
"Kristaps Licis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:19:37 -0400, wrote :
"L> Hello!
"L>
"L> I would greatly appreciate any insights as to possible solutions to the
"L> following problem: RedHat 6.0 installation would not recognize the EtherLink
"L> ethernet card [model - 3C905C or "TORNADO" according to Vertex
"L> classification] on my DELL PC even though the card's model appears to be
"L> supported under the VERTEX family name. It seems that the module I should
"L> use for this card is 3c59x.o which should detect io and irq automatically.
"L> Nevertheless, it does not seem to work: 1) the RedHat 6.0 setup would not
"L> find the ethernet card once I request it to use 3c59x.o module; 2) once
"L> trying to load the module [install the ethernet card] from within LINUX I
"L> also fail. Should I provide any options for this type of a card? What should
"L> those be?
The 3c59x module as if the RH6.0 kernel version does not seem to support
this card. There might be a beta test driver available or an update or
patch availble from
http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/vortex.html.
We recent recived a Gateway box with one of these -- we swaped it with a
3C905B (?) in an *older* Gateway running NT, since we knew the Linux
supported the card in the older Gateway (it used to run Linux) and we
knew we could get bleeding edge drivers from 3Com's web site.
"L>
"L> Meanwhile - Windows 98 do recognize this card and the card is fully
"L> functional in W98. The details provided by Windows 98 regarding my ethernet
"L> card are as follows:
"L>
"L> EtherLink 10/100 PCI - (3C905C-TX)
"L> Interrupt level: 11
"L> I/O base: 1400
"L> Slot number: 1400
"L> Boot ROM: disabled
"L> Performance optimized for: Normal
"L> Data Rate: 10/100 Mbps support
"L> Media connector: Auto Select
"L> Device ID 9200
"L> I/O Port Range 1400h-147h
"L> Interrupt Request Level: 11
"L>
"L> Thank you very much in advance!
"L>
"L> Kristaps
"L>
"L>
"L>
"L> --
"L> --
"L> Kristaps Licis
"L> Finance Ph.D. Student - Isenberg School of Management
"L> Research Associate - CISDM
"L> University of Massachusetts
"L> Amherst, MA 01003
"L> tel. (413) 545-3180; fax. (413) 577-1350
"L> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"L>
"L>
"L>
"L>
"L>
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: insmod: 'couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for'
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:27:11 GMT
I am trying to build a boot/rescue disk set for use with my laptop. The
laptop's LCD panel recently died and it looks like I might have to get a
replacement machine. Except for the screen the machine is fine -- it
works with an external monitor, however, lugging even a 13" monitor
defeats the whole point of a laptop.
I am running RedHat 5.2 on this machine. Given the hassle involved in
installing Linux in the first place, I want to try an easier solution.
I have been using a PCMCIA EtherNet card (3Com 3C589) to back up the
machine with tar using tar RMT hack to a (SCSI) tape drive on my main
system. I figure if I can create a boot/rescue with fisk, mkdir,
mke2fs, tar, and a functioning network, I could use this to 'restore' a
backup of my current laptop to a new laptop.
I downloaded yard and have created a boot/rescue disk set (2 disks), but
when I try to run the pcmcia startup, I get the message:
couldn't find the kernel version the module was compiled for
from insmod. I am assuming I am missing some magic file or something,
but I cannot figure out what is missing.
The man pages are not really helpful and nothing in the other
documentation that I can find is helpful either. Can someone more
knowledgeable about insmod give me a clue as to what is missing?
Thanks in advance.
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Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: 29 Aug 1999 02:47:40 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jack Zhu wrote:
> Paul Kimoto wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jack Zhu wrote:
>>>>> 'System map don't match'
>>> I know this msg is not serious, is nothing. But I think at least RH company
>>> doesn't want you upgrade kernel.
>> Oh, really, what should they do? Should they hack klogd so that it
>> doesn't look for System.map? Should they not ship System.map at all?
> OK, But when I upgraded kernel of RH 5.0 from 2.0.32 to 2.2.1, why there's not such
> warning message?? How do u explain this?
Perhaps Red Hat updated sysklogd: earlier versions of klogd did not have
the symbol-translation capability that requires finding System.map.
Note that sysklogd's current maintainer is a Debian developer; maybe
Debian is supporting Red Hat's quest for market domination.
> BTW, in Derian, is there such warning msg when you upgrade the kernel?
I guess you mean Debian. Yes, there is, if you don't go through the
trouble of putting the new System.map file in the right place.
> Another thing is, how do you explain no 'resolv.conf' file in RH 6.0? Nobody will
> happy about this.
I don't know. I don't use Red Hat (by choice, by the way). But maybe
the installation process just forgot to make one for you. Name
resolution happens in glibc; do you think that Red Hat altered glibc
to get rid of /etc/resolv.conf functionality?
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: stephen chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My Linux crashes more often than M$
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:46:42 -0700
Hi,
You need to describe your hardware in detail. Also memory and swap
disk size. Is it a Linux only machine or dual boot?
Stephen
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Robert Heller wrote:
> kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:30:04 +0100, wrote :
>
> k> Hi,
> k>
> k> Well it's just done it again! I'm using Red Hat 6, and every now and
> k> then, it just decides to log me out, thus losing all unsaved information
> k> from the apps I had open. It doesn't give any hint that anything is
> k> wrong, it just logs me out. This is _very_ annoying. What was that about
> k> Linux being the stablest OS there is?
>
> Is the maching *crashing* and rebooting or are you just 'suddenly'
> presented with a Login: prompt? Generally, linux does not crash unless
> there is a hardware fault. If you have a bleeding edge video card and/or a
> mis-configure X11 setup, the X server could be crashing. Also, if your
> sound card is mis-configured or something like that, you could be having
> problems. Are you on a laptop and don't have APM configured properly?
> This too will cause problems.
>
> Can you tell us *exactly* what your machine is doing. 'every now and
> then, it just decides to log me out' is somewhat vague. Please tell us:
>
> 1) Are you running X11 (GUI)?
> 2) Are you using startx (B&W console login) or xdm (colorful GUI
> login with Tux in a red hat)?
> 3) Is the machine *crashing* (i.e. 'kernel panic', rebooting,
> etc.)?
> 4) If it is X11 that is dieing, what kind of video board do you
> have? Which X server? Which window manager?
>
>
> k>
> k> So I'm forced to appeal to you guys to give me some insight into what is
> k> wrong. Again. I've had so many problems with RH6, I spend far too much
> k> time trying to fix problems when I should be using it to be productive.
> k>
> k> Do non-Red Hat users have these problems?
>
> I have Red Hat (5.2) on two computers here. No problems, other than
> the laptop not having a working LCD panel and a storm related power
> failure last night (which took my main system down, but it happily did
> its fsck on power restore and was happy). I've been re-booting the
> laptop every few minutes, but that is because I am working on building
> a boot/root floppy set in preparation of getting a replacement laptop
> and want to see if I can manage to just to a backup restore, over the
> ethernet from a floppy boot, rather than hassle with a fresh install
> (can be a total pain for a laptop).
>
> I deal with numerous Linux boxes, all running some flavor of Red Hat
> Linux (most RH 5.2, some RH 5.1, some RH 6.0).
>
> The only problems I've head about with RH 6.0 relate to problems with
> gnome or KDE being a bit flacky under some situations.
>
> The other other problems were due to silly operator error (messing up
> /etc/fstab and loosing the /dev/ptys file system, etc.).
>
> k>
> k> Thanks,
> k>
> k> - Kev
> k>
> k>
>
>
> --
> \/
> Robert Heller ||InterNet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/~heller || [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.deepsoft.com /\FidoNet: 1:321/153
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From: stephen chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Any Voodoo 3000 (OEM) drivers for Linux ?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:49:37 -0700
Can you run 24bit on a Voodoo 3?
Thanks
===========================================================
"Steven K. Iinuma" wrote:
> Thank you, but I downloaded the XFree86 server.
> Hmm..however, you gave me a clue.
> I'm going to keep Windoze since I will need it if I need to play
> certain games that don't run under Linux.
>
> Adrian Hands wrote:
> >
> > "Steven K. Iinuma" wrote:
> > My son has it working on his RedHat 6.0 system.
> > He downloaded a Voodoo3-enabled replacement for /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
> > from:
> >
> > http://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS_vb_glibc.html
> >
> > Also, make sure your color depth (bpp) isn't set too low.
> >
> > There, better now? Now you can remove that 98 partition.
> >
> > >
> > > I'm running a dual boot Win 98/RH 6.0 Linux with Kernel 2.2.5-22.
> > > I was wondering if there are any Linux drivers besides the generic
> > > XFree86 (3.3.3.5) drivers.
> > >
> > > When I run the GNOME desktop manager. The colors don't show right,
> > > especially if I run Netscape 4.51. For example web pages load, but
> > > the colors don't show up correctly.
> > >
> > > Other problems I have noticed the icons inside the desktop manager
> > > look grainy. I don't need any 3D or OpenGL support, but I would like
> > > it if my Voodoo 3000 acted like a normal video card by displaying
> > > the colors as they should be instead of Netscape showing up odd
> > > colors or my taskbar looking grainy. Even my the SiS 6326 card I
> > > had displayed my colors as they should be.
> > >
> > > Question: Is any anybody running RH 6.0 with Kernel 2.2.5-22 with
> > > either KDE or GNOME installed using the Voodoo 3000 AGP
> > > card. If so, what drivers are you using?
> > >
> > > When will 3dfx release Linux drivers!?!
> > > Ugh...I'm glad I still have Windoze, at least my card works there.
> > >
> > > Thank you for suggestions.
> > > --
> > > Please reply to the newsgroup. If you need to contact me via e-mail
> > > then remove "sd".
>
> --
> Please reply to the newsgroup. If you need to contact me via e-mail
> then remove "sd".
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Arromdee)
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Multiple-OS Waveblaster II problem
Date: 29 Aug 1999 06:59:41 GMT
I just remembered that I have a Vibra card in the closet. I got it out,
tried it, and had exactly the same problem, so it's not the card. This
narrows things down a bit, but it could still be a bad board or a bad midi
file (or a bad driver for the first problem).
--
Ken Arromdee / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
"I have never seen the inside of the building at Microsoft where the top
executives hang out, but I have this fantasy that in the hallways, at regular
intervals, big red alarm boxes are bolted to the wall. Each contains a large
red button protected by a windowpane. A metal hammer dangles on a chain next
to it. Above is a big sign reading: IN THE EVENT OF A CRASH IN MARKET SHARE,
BREAK GLASS." -- Neal Stephenson
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From: "P.P.Foong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: jaring.os.linux
Subject: Patched wu-ftpd 2.5.0 available...
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:10:32 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have patched the latest version of wu-ftpd 2.5.0 according to Red Hat
Security Advisory [RHSA-1999:031]
Source: ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.0/SRPMS/wu-ftpd-2.5.0-5.6.0.src.rpm
In addition, a few enhancements have been made based on J.D. Li works,
which include:
** Smart CD: when you perform a "cd" command, now no longer case
sensitive, and for directory with long name, you can just key-in the
first few characters, it will search the directory for you. Very
convenience.
** Show uptime at the beginning of connection.
** Improved several system logging features.
You can get the file here:
ftp://MSIA.pine.ncu.edu.tw/pub/linux/wu-ftpd-2.5.0-smartcd.tar.gz
The J.D. LI modification are defined at the end of config.h, remove the
defines if you don't like these new features.
To install, just type "build lnx" follow by "build install".
PS: MSIA.pine.ncu.edu.tw is currently running this version of wu-ftpd,
you can try the Smart-CD feature with this FTP.
Enjoy!!
--
Homepage: http://MSIA.pine.ncu.edu.tw/~ppfoong
PGP Public key: http://MSIA.pine.ncu.edu.tw/~ppfoong/pubkey.asc
ICQ: 1366170
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From: o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s (david parsons)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: 28 Aug 1999 00:38:47 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Cocheese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>*Why Is linux done primarily in the C programming language rather than
>C++?*
C++ brings nothing to the table when writing a kernel.
____
david parsons \bi/ Too much C++ experience.
\/
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From: Peter Thatcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new to linux
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:38:47 -0700
On Sat, 28 Aug 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi, I am really new to linux, so I want to obtain more info. My system
>now is pentium II with two partition. One partition is 2.0 gig for
>win95 and MSDOS, the other partition 1.0 gig for winNT. Both partitions
>are FAT. Where can I download linux and what version should I use
>because there are many different linux to me? Is it hard to install
>linux? I really appreciate your help.
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't
I would reccomend not downloading it, but instead buying a CD from somewhere
such as http://www.cheapbytes.com or http://www.linuxmall.com. I would also
reccomend using Caldera Openlinux 2.2, Redhat 6.0, or Mandrake 6.0. If this is
your first Linux install, then find a Linux friend buy a boxed version with
support.
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Color printig in Caldera 2.2 only B/W on DJ 690C.
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:03:05 GMT
Jordi Backx wrote:
>
> I've tried everything, but I just can't print in colors on my Deskjet
> 690C in Caldera 2.2. Even though the damn thing is supported in the COAS
> printing tool.
> It doesn't matter if I print from WP, The gimp, GV or netscape; the
> printer prints it all, except in grays.
> My configuration in COAS, does anyone know what's wrong in here (??) :
>
> name: lp
> alternative names: -
> description: HP Deskjet 690C
> Type: HP Deskjet 550C and 560C
> Resolution: 300 x 300
> Paper size: DIN A4
> Device: /dev/lp0
> Speed: 57600
> Max jobsize (0=unl.): 0
> Suppress headers: yes
> Spool dir: /var/spool/lpd/lp
> Send EOF to eject pg: no
> Add. GS options: no
> Uniprint driver: - (can't be edited)
> Remote host: - (can't be edited)
> Remote queue: - (can't be edited)
Is the 690 one of HP's PPA printers? If so you're SOL until
someone writes a color driver. Tim Norman has some really
slick software to let PPA printers print in BW (he's working
on color).
Bill
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From: Jaap van Hengstum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: 29 Aug 1999 08:30:44 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Jack Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1. Lots of bug, and much more than ones of RH 5.0 which I used before.
> For example: I installed Oracle 8.0.5 for RH 5.0(Kernel 2.2.1)
> successfully many times(without doing any Linux side patch update). But
> I cannot install on RH 6.0 following the same way I used. Finally I find
> a web site to 'teach' me how to install Oracle 8.0.5 under RH6.0. I
> mean, this's silly. Backward compatible is very important for OS. In
> this point, RH is even worse than MS.
This is not RedHats fault. The Oracle binaries use glibc2.0 calls while
RedHat is equipped with glibc2.1. Look at the Oracle site
(technet.oracle.com) in the download section, you will find a patch
for that problem, I believe it's called glibcpatch.tgz.
After applying that patch, oracle will run fine on a RH 6.0 computer.
> 2. Same experience for Oracle 8.1.5.
> 3. When I try to upgrade to kernel 2.2.11, the boot warning message is
> like 'System map don't match'. Does RH force their customers only stick
> with Kernel 2.2.5? Really stupid idea.
Type 'make install' or copy the System.map to /boot/ manually.
> 4.Compare Slackware 4.0 and RH 6.0, which one is better? I never get
> chance to try Slackware. I don't need useless fancy things, I only need
> the pure Linux. Could anyone tell me which one is better for me,
> slackware or RH?
I agree with you that Slackware is better if you want a no-nonsense
secure linux server. However, it is also more difficult to install
and to maintain for the new user. If you want an easy-to-setup
workable linux workstation, use RH or Suse (never tried Debian).
> 5. Is there anyone has the successful experience that install Oracle
> 8.0.5(or Oracle 8.1.5) under slackware 4.0 WOTHOUT doing any patch
> update for linux(like lots of RH patchs for installing Oracle)?
> Anyway, I think RH 5.0 is OK, RH6.0 is worse, much worse. And RH try to
> be Microsoft in Linux world, this is absolutely stupid. I already
> recommend all my friends get rid of RH products.
> Many of them also agree with me, there's a common sense that RH sucks!
It is not the black-and-white case that this distro sucks and that
distro rules. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
> Thanks for any suggestion and idea!
> Jack
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:23:53 GMT
Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tristan Wibberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> BTW, has anyone read Stroustrup's paper where he suggests overloading
>>> the whitespace operator? It's quite an elegant idea, for example
>>> mathematicians would be able to write:
>>>
>>> v = a x + b y + c z;
>>>
>>> instead of the usual:
>>>
>>> v = a * x + b * y + c * z;
Why doesn't it surprise me that Stroustrop came up with this lame idea.
For a man that had the opportunity to clean up the C syntax and make it
more readable yet managed the impressive task of making it even more of an
dogs dinner than it already was, he really should have learnt his lesson by
now. I just wish academics like him would crawl back into their ivory towers
and shut the doors for good since they seem to forget that programming
languages are tools to be used by people, not machines, and therefor should be
as syntactically clear as possible, not look like line noise.
NJR (a C/C++ programmer for 15 years)
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From: Olaf Walkowiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: sendmail relaying external mail
Date: 29 Aug 1999 11:54:05 +0200
Hello,
Fabrice Lhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I'm running a Linux (suse) WebServer (apache 1.3.4)
> > with 5 Virtual Domains.
> > Everything works fine !
>
> This is due to a new feature of sendmail to prevent relaying mail from
> spammers. I had the same problem. Preventing relaying is not possible
> when hosting customers web sites (they'd like to send mails to whoever
> they want and me too).
>
> The solution consist in editing the sendmail.cf file. Then comment in
> ruleset 98 everything concerning spam (from Sspammers to the end of
> ruleset in my version 8.8).
>
> As antispam should be a concern, I looked for another way to prevent it.
You can either use "SMTP after POP" or relay mail for some domains or
adresses only.
CU
Olaf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:37:21 GMT
Jack Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1. Lots of bug, and much more than ones of RH 5.0 which I used before.
>For example: I installed Oracle 8.0.5 for RH 5.0(Kernel 2.2.1)
>successfully many times(without doing any Linux side patch update). But
Lucky you, I could never get Oracle to install at all on RH 5.1.
>3. When I try to upgrade to kernel 2.2.11, the boot warning message is
>like 'System map don't match'. Does RH force their customers only stick
>with Kernel 2.2.5? Really stupid idea.
Ignore that message, its not important.
>4.Compare Slackware 4.0 and RH 6.0, which one is better? I never get
>chance to try Slackware. I don't need useless fancy things, I only need
>the pure Linux. Could anyone tell me which one is better for me,
>slackware or RH?
Slackware is good if you want a command line Linux system to use as a back
end server. Unlike RH you have to get your hands dirty to fully set it up and
setting up X is a steep learning curve since you have to use good old xconfig.
I use slackware myself since A) Its cheap, B) I don't need all the extra
rubbish that comes with RH and C) I'm quite capable of setting everything up
myself. I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner tho, Slackware is definately
a techies distribution.
>Anyway, I think RH 5.0 is OK, RH6.0 is worse, much worse. And RH try to
>be Microsoft in Linux world, this is absolutely stupid. I already
>recommend all my friends get rid of RH products.
RH are certainly trying to appeal to the windows market and good luck to
them. Non technical people are not going to use Linux if they have to set
everything up manually no matter how reliable it is (and I include most
Windows "admins" where the only difference between them and a user is they
have a Dummies Guide on their shelve and know the MS support phone number)
NJR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: 29 Aug 1999 10:11:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
and could not resist the temptation ....
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>>3. When I try to upgrade to kernel 2.2.11, the boot warning message is
>>like 'System map don't match'. Does RH force their customers only stick
>>with Kernel 2.2.5? Really stupid idea.
>
>Ignore that message, its not important.
Don't, copy you're new System.map to the correct location.
Hans
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