Linux-Misc Digest #699, Volume #21 Mon, 6 Sep 99 09:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: What are the easiest IRC and email clients for new users? (Nick Roux)
Re: Windows 98 and Caldera Open Linux Help !!!!! (Todd Lenderman)
Fetch out of sequence? (kev)
Should I use Linux or Windows? ("Mark Leung")
Re: Shutdown Problem (Bartosz Klimek)
Re: Sound help needed (Daniel Lilienberg)
Re: Fetch out of sequence? (kev)
Default shell settings? (Terence Parker)
Re: xfstt and Redhat 6 (Bob Tennent)
Re: mem change = kernel panic. (HellNo)
Re: 2.0.x -> 2.2.x (was Re: Help please - configuring sound in kernel 2.0.38)
(Stephen Cornell)
Peaceful Coexistence ("Jill")
Re: How to address email without domain name? (Maciek)
Installing GNUCash (Rémi FACKEURE)
Re: How to address email without domain name? (Maciek)
Re: Hotmail anyone? (Yan Seiner)
Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution ("Casper")
Re: LINUX AND COREL (Nix)
Re: Should I use Linux or Windows? ("Jill")
Java Tales ("Jill")
Source ld-so.2.x.x (Zeger Hendrikse)
Re: I've had a problem d/ling RH6.0 from ftp site and mirrors.. Has anyone else
accomplished this? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Java Tales (Hans Wolters)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Roux)
Subject: Re: What are the easiest IRC and email clients for new users?
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 10:02:36 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XChat is very simular to mirc and easy to use.
Nick
On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 17:06:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>I'm looking for IRC and email clients for X. I've found some, but don't want to
>try them all to see which are best for my 14 year old daughter. She is familiar
>with mirc and Eudora in Windows. The ability to log sessions on irc is a must.
>
>Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
>Wade Segade
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Todd Lenderman)
Subject: Re: Windows 98 and Caldera Open Linux Help !!!!!
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 09:24:56 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Uwe Klingerlocalhost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Todd Lenderman wrote:
>
>> I installed a new 13 gig hard drive on my computer and installed windows 98.
>> I partitioned the hard drive into 3 partitions and installed Linux on the
>> other partition. Linux works great after I installed it but when I reboot my
>> computer I'm back in Windows 98. I tried installing the Boot Manager
>> that came on the disk "PartitionMagic" but had no luck. I have been reading
>> about LILO but I'm a little bit lost : ) I'm thinking of buying System
>> Comander to see if this will help. Right now I am stuck in Window98
>> until I get this thing to boot to Linux.
>>
>> Thanks for any help anyone can send...
>>
>> Todd Lenderman
>>
>> *[EMAIL PROTECTED]*
>
>Hi,
>
>What distribution do you use? I think the best think is to use LILO.
>Are you able to boot into linux? You can use loadlin from the dos prompt,
>it should be shiped with your distribution in the dosutils dir or so.
>When your in Linux, you should setup a lilo setup. Look into your linux book,
>there should be a example or have a look at the LILO Howto at www.linuxberg.com
>
>Uwe
>
I re-installed "Caldera Open Linux" and tried to install LILO but it said
something about my kernel exceeding 1024 cylinders.
I am thinking about Re-Partitioning my harddrive to smaller partitions.
Now on C:\ drive I have a 8 gig partition for Windows 98 and a 2.5 gig for
Linux.
Thanks for the help.
Todd
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fetch out of sequence?
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:22:27 +0100
Hi,
I'm using Red Hat 6/Apache/PHP3.0.12/Oracle. I've suddenly started
getting an error I've never seen before:
<b>Warning</b>: OCIFetchInto: ORA-01002: fetch out of sequence
in <b>type1.inc</b> on line <b>36</b><br>
I can't see anything wrong with my code or queries. Does anyone know
what can cause this? The output from 'oerr ora 01002' is written in
advanced Oracle-speak which I don't understand ;-)
Thanks,
-Kev
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From: "Mark Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Should I use Linux or Windows?
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 20:22:43 +1000
Hi,
I'm just wondering if I should install Linux. I'll need to buy a new hard
disk to install it. Besides reliability and not being Microsoft, what are
the real benefits of it? There seems to be a shortage of software for it,
for example apps like Quicken, Bryce 3D, games and drivers for scanners and
LS-120 drives. All the windows programs that have an equivelant for Linux
are not as good (for example, Office 2000 vs StarOffice). I would like to
switch completely to Linux if the software support was better. So, should I
install linux?
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From: Bartosz Klimek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Shutdown Problem
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 10:24:48 GMT
M van Oosterhout wrote:
>
> > IMO, the distribution installs ought to provide the option to tell them
> > to put the OS on a partition that will be read-only (except when being
> > updated), all the temp files on a different partition, and all the config
> > files (dialer files, hosts, etc) on yet another partition.
>
> This has already been done. For example on my machine:
> / contains config (/etc) and boot file (/boot, /bin, /sbin),
> rarely changes
> /usr All installed programs. This is mounted read-only
> /var All the data that changes regularly (logs, databases, spool
> files)
> /home The rest, also changes fairly infrequently.
>
> The / partition contains everything needed to boot and since it is
> almost never written to, it's almost impossible for my machine not
> to boot. After that everything on /usr works because it never changes.
What about /tmp? Did you put it on a separate partition or is it on /?
/etc is quite often written to. Examples: mtab, issue. Of course it
depends on how often you boot your machine and mount your CD, floppy and
other file systems.
Regards,
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Bartosz Klimek
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From: Daniel Lilienberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.linux.slakware,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Sound help needed
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 12:25:29 +0200
> > Test if your soundcard had been found by the system with 'cat
> > /dev/sndstat'.
> >
> > Cooper
> > ---
> > Quake 3 made me do it!
>
> I have a similar problem, only that I have a Audio Excel that emulates SB16.
> At the time I compiled the kernel, I specified that the card I had was one
> that emulates SoundBlaster 16/32/etc. My question is, how can determine
> whether the sound card module has been installed and if it is the wrong
> module trouble shoot it?
What about testing the above command ?? (go for the OSS modules instead..)
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fetch out of sequence?
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 12:03:17 +0100
Whoops!
Sorry, I emailed this to _completely_ the wrong place !! Please forgive.
If you can help though.....;)
- Kev
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From: Terence Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Default shell settings?
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 02:58:37 +0800
Does anyone know how I can set the default shell for a whole group, so
that when I create users who belong to that group I do not need to
manually edit the /etc/passwd file afterwards? I use Red Hat Linux 6,
and am wanting to have the 'POPUSERS' default to /usr/bin/passwd - as
opposed to a false terminal.
Many thanks for your help,
Terence Parker.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: xfstt and Redhat 6
Date: 6 Sep 1999 11:02:48 GMT
Reply-To: rdt(a)cs.queensu.ca
On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 03:26:14 GMT, Roch Plamondon wrote:
>I' m trying to install xfstt on my machine
Why? Red Hat have incorporated xfsft into their XFree86-xfs package in 6.0.
but i'm getting errors when
>executing the make command so the xfstt is not created. Im using Xfstt0910
>
It might help if you told us what the error messages were!
Bob T.
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From: HellNo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: redhat.config
Subject: Re: mem change = kernel panic.
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:01:37 GMT
Yup! I got it wrong all the way through! All I had to do was remove
the line mentioning the mem size and it all worked fine. I think you
only have to declare mem over 64 MB in the lilo.conf in 2.0.x kernel
versions, not 2.2.x
thanks for the hint
Ed.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Chris Salin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whenever you change lilo.conf, you need to run lilo (just type it).
This
> will update with what is in the config file. If you can't even get to
a
> prompt, boot up with your rescue disk, then make the change, run lilo,
> reboot.
>
> Chris Salin
>
> HellNo wrote:
>
> > Hi linux users!
> >
> > Well, I thought I was getting to grips with Linux until now. I'm
unning
> > RH5.2 (2.2.5) on a PII
> >
> > I had to downgrade the machine from 192 MB of RAM to 128 MB, so I
hanged
> > the reference to the amount of mem in Lilo.conf to 128 MB, saved it
and
> > ran lilo to validate the changes. I shut the box down, rebooted and
> > this is what I get:
> >
> > ---cut---
> > Memory: 0K/0K available (0K kernel code, 0K
> > reserved, 0K data, 0K init) Unable to handle Kernel NULL pointer
> > dereference at virtual address 00000000
> >
> > ...
> >
> > Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
> > In swapper task - not syncing.
> > ---cut---
> >
> > If anyone has a clue on what I did wrong, let me know. Adding the
64 MB
> > back is not a solution. ;)
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> > Ed.
> > PS: The kernel isn't new enough for me not to have to declare
amounts of
> > RAM higher than 64 MB in lilo.conf
> >
> > --
> > HellNo
> > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ICQ: 21535717
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>
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From: Stephen Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.0.x -> 2.2.x (was Re: Help please - configuring sound in kernel 2.0.38)
Date: 06 Sep 1999 12:10:06 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto) writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Cornell wrote:
> > I don't want to install a 2.2.* kernel - I'm sure this would break a lot
> > of applications and generally cause a lot of unnecessary work.
>
> According to http://www.kernelnotes.org/change22.html (based on the
> Documentation/Changes file, "Red Hat 5.2 ships with most necessary
> software."
You have to update the initialisation scripts, among other things, so
you lose any local moodifications. Also, several devices changed
their names.
As I said, it entails lots of unnecessary work. Besides, the 2.2.*
kernel is still reputed to be buggier and less stable.
--
Stephen Cornell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel/fax +44-1223-336644
University of Cambridge, Zoology Department, Downing Street, CAMBRIDGE CB2 3EJ
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From: "Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Peaceful Coexistence
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:22:26 -0700
I have an HP Pavilion PII at 400Mhz. I have W98 installed on it. I
want to run linux, but I'd prefer to purchase a separate hard disk since I
have critical stuff on the original disk, and being a newbie.....
After installing a 2nd disk, can I load linux exclusively on the 2nd
disk leaving the original untouched? How would I boot? Would it be
possible to run Windows, and then start a linux session in a Window? I have
RH 5.2 now. Is there a compelling reason to upgrade to 6?
Thanks for your help.
Jill Cohen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maciek)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to address email without domain name?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:16:59 GMT
On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:15:53 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maciek) wrote:
>try user[122.122.122.122]
>
>:)
sorry
user@[122.122.122.122]
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From: Rémi FACKEURE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Installing GNUCash
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:31:08 GMT
Hello !
I'm quite new with Linux and i'd like to install gnucash 1.2.3 to manage my
money :)
I run a redhat 6.0 with the 2.2.10 kernel and i'm unable to compile/install
gnucash :(
I do not have motif, so i tried to install lesstif, i installed the
0.87.0-1.rpm and the devel package but bad luck, those don't work with
gnucash, i do not find the 0.88.1 in rpm package :(
could somebody help me finding and installing the various packages needed
by gnucash ?
thanks a lot in advance
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http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maciek)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How to address email without domain name?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:15:53 GMT
try user[122.122.122.122]
:)
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotmail anyone?
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 06:53:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, maybe I'm still a little groggy... Doesn't hotmail run linux for
some of its stuff? If the breakin was a linux issue then it belongs
here.....
Yan
> Did you check slashdot? Why are you asking here? This isn't
> alt.hotmail.breakin.current-events.
>
> --
> rich jankowski
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Casper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.realtime
Subject: Re: Amiga, QNX, Linux and Revolution
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 11:31:49 GMT
"JL" == "Jerry Leslie" writes:
JL> Casper ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
JL>
JL> : Unless something has recently changed, I don't recall ever reading
JL> : that NASA uses Linux in any form.
JL>
JL> The following were found via Altavista:
JL>
Well then, something has apparently changed recently then! :)
But still Amigas are used for all launches, and QNX is used as well!
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From: Nix <$}xinix{$@esperi.demon.co.uk>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: LINUX AND COREL
Date: 06 Sep 1999 07:52:59 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Samuelson) writes:
> remember when real version numbers
> all but disappeared from 'doze software in favor of two-digit year
> numbers?)
I remember when things were going the other way (Clipper Summer '87,
followed by Clipper 5)
--
`Have a read, but keep a bucket handy' --- Alan Cox on UDI
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From: "Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Should I use Linux or Windows?
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:38:12 -0700
Do you expect an objective answer here?
Mark Leung wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I'm just wondering if I should install Linux. I'll need to buy a new hard
>disk to install it. Besides reliability and not being Microsoft, what are
>the real benefits of it? There seems to be a shortage of software for it,
>for example apps like Quicken, Bryce 3D, games and drivers for scanners and
>LS-120 drives. All the windows programs that have an equivelant for Linux
>are not as good (for example, Office 2000 vs StarOffice). I would like to
>switch completely to Linux if the software support was better. So, should I
>install linux?
>
>
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From: "Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Java Tales
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 07:45:28 -0700
I am taking a Java class this month. I would be interested in hearing how
people are using Java with linux, where to get compilers, etc. I have had C
and C++ programming, but am completely clueless about Java. Thanks for any
replies.
Jill Cohen
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From: Zeger Hendrikse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Source ld-so.2.x.x
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 14:04:02 +0200
Does anyone know where I can find the source of
ld-so.2.x.x? I have only stumbled upon the 1.9.5
and the 1.9.9 source code.
Thanks in advance,
--
Zeger Hendrikse
http://www.wins.uva.nl/~zegerh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: I've had a problem d/ling RH6.0 from ftp site and mirrors.. Has anyone
else accomplished this?
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 12:03:50 GMT
On 12 Aug 1999 00:30:41 -0700, Chris Mahmood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Peacock) writes:
>>
>> I was just wondering if anyone out there has successfully downloaded
>> RH6.0 from ftp.redhat.org or any of the mirrors?
>yes.
another yes. on a frame relay line.
if you're having problems with all the directories, try what i did:
the RPMS directory is the biggest (+-450MB) i selected only it for
download and went home, it had no problem d/l the whole directory.
the next day i downloaded the rest. manually.
p.s. i used leechFTP for this job. & i used a mirror site.
>> Well.. I took a look at d/ling RH. I've downloaded Slackware once
>> before but that was back when I was on a 14.4 modem.. So I figure my
>> 56k would do a bit better.. =)
>Ouch! You aren't going to download a modern Linux distribution at
>56K. At the very least, you can buy a cd from cheapbytes for a few
>bucks. Better yet, you can buy it and support the company.
>-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hans Wolters)
Subject: Re: Java Tales
Date: 6 Sep 1999 12:21:51 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
^^^^^^^
Woops, are you sure you want to use hotmail ? :)
and could not resist the temptation ....
>I am taking a Java class this month. I would be interested in hearing how
>people are using Java with linux, where to get compilers, etc.
Take a look at http://www.blackdown.org
You can find the complete JDK there.
Hans
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