Linux-Misc Digest #647, Volume #24 Tue, 30 May 00 02:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: secure ftp? (Janet)
1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-) (Amanda Hammond)
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? (Dave Schanen)
Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-) ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-) (MH)
Re: GNOME newsgroups? (MH)
Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-) (Vilmos Soti)
Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-) (Paul Kimoto)
Re: tar problems - verify fails (Raphael Mankin)
Telnet from Windows (Brian Burton)
Re: Having trouble installing 2 network cards ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
AutoMount 2nd CDROM in Redhat 6.2? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Telnet from Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DHCP kills kppp - please help ("knud")
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From: Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: secure ftp?
Date: 29 May 2000 21:15:51 -0700
Janet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I'm wondering if there's a reasonable way to do secure FTP in a
> cross-platform sort of way. I am perfectly happy to scp things all the
> time, but I can't do that from the Macs that I work with sometime (or is
> there an SSH client for a Mac that will do such a thing)? Are there any
> other ways to do secure file transfers?
I just discovered that NiftyTelnet SSH 1.1r3 for the Mac now has SCP
support. Unfortunately, it's illegal in the US =(.
Janet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amanda Hammond)
Subject: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-)
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 04:23:51 GMT
Hi,
This is my first time messing with the kernel, so please be gentle.
I'm following SMC's directions
(http://www.smc.com/smc/drivers/Drivers/1660/1660Linux.txt) to get an
SMC1660BTA NIC working. I gather I'm trying to compile in support for
an NE2000.
After I did my "make menuconfig",
I did:
make dep;make clean;make zImage;
But I got an error:
<snip>
tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT > zImage
Root device is (22, 1)
Boot sector 512 bytes.
Setup is 3544 bytes.
System is 626 kB
System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
<snip>
What do I do? Why is it too big? The only thing I added was built-in
support for NE2000/NE1000.
Thanks,
Amanda :-)
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From: Dave Schanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:28:54 -0500
Grant Edwards wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GENE wrote:
>
> >As one who spent a lot of lab time with SparcStation 10, 20, and various
> >Ultra machines, let me caution you about old hardware. You may find it hard
> >to fix, and Sun CE's don't come cheap. In the Sparc 10 era, for example, the
> >frame buffers were as slow as DOGs. They had some boards for the S-bus
> In the bang-for-your buck department, an old P120 with 64M of RAM, a $100
> PCI graphics board, and a decent SCSI disk system will really surprise you.
A friend of mine used a P66 with 96 megs of edo ram and only scsi-2
drives, it outperformed a Cyrix 233 w/ a 64 meg dimm for compiling
nearly the same size Linux kernel.
> For high-end, lots of processors, tons of disk I/O, performance, Sun is
> going to beat an Intel-based box. But for low cost, single-user, desktop
> use, the higher volume of Intel-based hardware wins out every time.
Depends on your 'single user', more fluent users tend to multitask a lot
and use memory like candy, if you're stuck with a eide bus in this
situation (I've been there), processor speed seems irrelevent for many
high io tasks (e.g. many downloads while compiling, copying over the
LAN, and playing mp3s) it happened way too often to me, so I have
udma/66 drives now, seems to help.
> Personally, I'd like to play with an Alpha or G3 system. Too bad Apple
> switched to IDE disks.
You can still order G4s with scsi, it's simply not the standard config.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-)
Date: 30 May 2000 04:37:18 GMT
Amanda Hammond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: <snip>
: What do I do? Why is it too big? The only thing I added was built-in
: support for NE2000/NE1000.
Just follow the instruction (underlined) given in the error message.
There is no reason to compile in support for ne2000, btw - it is
just fine as a module!
To answer your questions: you did what you did. It's too big because it
IS too big. I suspect you meant to ask "what did I do WRONG" and
"WHAT is it too big FOR"?
The answer to those are "nothing", and "to load using the zImage
loading strategy".
Peter
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-)
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:49:24 -0700
Amanda Hammond wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is my first time messing with the kernel, so please be gentle.
> I'm following SMC's directions
> (http://www.smc.com/smc/drivers/Drivers/1660/1660Linux.txt) to get an
> SMC1660BTA NIC working. I gather I'm trying to compile in support for
> an NE2000.
>
> After I did my "make menuconfig",
>
> I did:
> make dep;make clean;make zImage;
>
> But I got an error:
> <snip>
> tools/build bootsect setup compressed/vmlinux.out CURRENT > zImage
> Root device is (22, 1)
> Boot sector 512 bytes.
> Setup is 3544 bytes.
> System is 626 kB
> System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
> <snip>
>
> What do I do? Why is it too big? The only thing I added was built-in
> support for NE2000/NE1000.
>
> Thanks,
> Amanda :-)
Instead of "make zImage" type "make bzImage". Apparently, all the newer
kernels require the newer compression utility "bzip2". You must have
bzip2 installed for this to work.
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GNOME newsgroups?
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 21:52:40 -0700
Garry Knight wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> >Anyone know of any GNOME newsgroups? I found a German group, apparently
> >inactive, but that was it.
>
> My ISP (Freeserve in the UK) carries the following:
>
> lists.misc.gnome.cvs
> mailing.gnome.announce
> mailing.gnome.balsa
> mailing.gnome.components
> mailing.gnome.doc
> mailing.gnome.general
> mailing.gnome.gnumeric
> mailing.gnome.gui
>
> --
> Garry Knight
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Those appear to be mailing lists, not news groups.
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Subject: Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-)
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 04:53:11 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amanda Hammond) writes:
> This is my first time messing with the kernel, so please be gentle.
OK.
> make dep;make clean;make zImage;
^^^^^^
> System is too big. Try using bzImage or modules.
Read /usr/src/linux/README and it will give you the answer.
(I don't tell you what to do so you READ it actually. :-)
Also, I would recommend you to run
make dep && make clean && make bzImage
instead of the make dep; ... stuff.
Reason: If any of your make command fails then with the ; then the next
one will execute regardless the outcome of the prev. command. However,
with the && as command separator, the second will only execute if the
previous succeeded.
> What do I do? Why is it too big? The only thing I added was built-in
> support for NE2000/NE1000.
I would take a heavy look at the modules support. One problem you
might did was compiling everything into the kernel. If you compile
some stuff as modules then they will be loaded only when they are
needed. This helps when your kernel is already running by not
having everything in memory. Also, it will reduce your kernel size
so you won't have the problem you encountered. The aforementioned
file also talks about module support. Don't forget to browse the
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/ directory, too.
Vilmos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: 1st time kernel recompile-Got an error. Please help :-)
Date: 30 May 2000 01:08:52 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
> Instead of "make zImage" type "make bzImage". Apparently, all the newer
> kernels require the newer compression utility "bzip2". You must have
> bzip2 installed for this to work.
This explanation is wrong. Documentation/kbuild/commands.txt says:
: Note: the difference between 'zImage' files and 'bzImage' files is that
: 'bzImage' uses a different layout and a different loading algorithm,
: and thus has a larger capacity. Both files use gzip compression.
: The 'bz' in 'bzImage' stands for 'big zImage', not for 'bzip'!
Many consider (the old-fashioned) "zImage" to be obsolete.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Raphael Mankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: tar problems - verify fails
Date: 29 May 2000 08:49:09 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Andreas Grosche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: # Justin Catterall wrote in uk.comp.os.linux 2000-03-22:
:> The problem is when tar starts the first thing it says is:
:> "Removing leading / from absolute paths in the archive"
:> If I add the -W (or --verify) option to the command it fails
:> because the paths don't match, it is unable to verify "any" of the files
: I've seen the exact same problem (and attributed it to the same reason) in
: "various flavours" of tar, it even seems to exist in the age-old DOS port
: and probably has been deep in the tar code from day 1 of its existence.
Original (early 1980s) tar did not remove the leading /. That is where
the bug creeps in. We have modified writing code that does remove the /,
and original verification code that does not remove it.
--
Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private advantage
Ambrose Bierce
Raphael Mankin
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Brian Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Telnet from Windows
Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 23:25:04 -0600
Hey there. This is probably a dumb question to ask but I was really
wondering if anyone knew of any good telnet programs that I can use from
Windows to telnet into a Red Hat Linux box? The main reason I ask is
that I really want to find out a way or a program that will let me when
I telnet in and use vim to work on perl documents to keep all of the
color coding that it uses.
Most programs I have tried just have their own color scheme and don't
use Linuxes (eg plain old white background with black text).
Thanks ahead of time.
Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Having trouble installing 2 network cards
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 05:19:24 GMT
Have you solved this problem already? If so, would you mind email me
the steps you ahve taken to solve the problem. I doubt that is the IRQ
& I/O problem, but I may be wrong
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
Melvin
In article <8fklq4$o38$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm getting ready to set my Linux box as an internet gateway for a
small
> network of about 5 Windows95 machines. The first step was to try to
> install a second network card into the machine and set up a "private"
> internal network. But I've run into trouble - I feel like I've ALMOST
> got it right, but have missed a few steps. Thanks to anyone who can
> show me where I went wrong!
>
> First, this is a Dell 180Mhz machine running Red Hat Linux 6.0. It
has
> a DSL connection with a static IP address. It stands in isolation
from
> a network of about 5 Windows95 PCs. I'd like to add it to the network
> so the other PCs can get on the internet through the Linux box.
>
> I've decided to use a 192.168.0.x network - the Linux box will be
> 192.168.0.1 , and the IP's for rest of the network will go
> incrementally from there.
>
> I added a second NIC to the Linux box, which seemed to be recognized
> when the machine rebooted. I used the "netcfg" program, which added a
> new line to my /etc/conf.modules file for the card.
> (the output from several relevant programs and files is below)
>
> Here are the problems:
>
> 1) After installing the second network card, I was no longer able to
> get on the internet from the Linux machine!
> > ping www.yahoo.com
> ping: unknown host: www.yahoo.com
> > ping 216.32.74.51
> PING 216.32.74.51 (216.32.74.51): 56 data bytes
> ping: sendto: Network is unreachable
> ping: wrote 216.32.74.51 64 chars, ret=-1
>
> I was able to fix this problem (with a tip I read somewhere) by
running
> this command as root:
> > route add gateway default
>
> Then it worked.
> > ping www.yahoo.com
> PING www.yahoo.akadns.net (216.32.74.52): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 216.32.74.52: icmp_seq=0 ttl=243 time=25.4 ms
> 64 bytes from 216.32.74.52: icmp_seq=1 ttl=243 time=24.3 ms
> ...
>
> But I'm not sure why I that problem occurred (unless it simply meant
> that Linux no longer knew how to reach the Internet due to the
presence
> of multiple NICs), or how to solve this problem in a more permanent
way
> other than typing in that line every time I reboot!
>
> 2) I am also unable to ping any of the machines on my "internal"
> network, and they cannot ping me. They CAN, however, ping each other.
> > ping 192.168.0.2
> PING 192.168.0.2 (192.168.0.2): 56 data bytes
> --- 192.168.0.2 ping statistics ---
> 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
>
> The other machines are all Windows95. They have their IP addresses
> manually specified (e.g. 192.168.0.1), subnet mask 255.255.255.0, have
> their Gateway set to 192.168.0.1 and their DNS also set to 192.168.0.1
> . And they can ping each other fine, but not the Linux server.
>
> Here's some of my settings:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> /etc/conf.modules
> alias eth0 3c59x
> alias eth1 3c59x
> (these are two similar but not identical cards)
> (is there a problem since I'm NOT specifying IO/IRQ info?)
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> OUTPUT FROM ifconfig:
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
> UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1
> RX packets:160 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:160 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0
>
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:60:97:BE:1E:B2
> inet addr:64.40.68.250 Bcast:64.40.68.255
> Mask:255.255.255.252
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:2071 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:2482 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:4
> Interrupt:9 Base address:0xff00
>
> eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:24:C6:2C:05
> inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:47 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0
> Interrupt:10 Base address:0xff80
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> OUTPUT FROM netstat -r:
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window
irtt
> Iface
> 64.40.68.248 * 255.255.255.252 U 1500
0 0
> eth0
> 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 1500
0 0
> eth1
> 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 3584
0 0
> lo
>
> default * 0.0.0.0 U 1500
0 0
> eth0
> #### Note that the last line only appears after
> #### I manually run "route add default eth0"
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> /etc/sysconfig/network
> NETWORKING=yes
> FORWARD_IPV4=yes
> HOSTNAME=grbc.vor.org
> DOMAINNAME=vor.org
> # GATEWAY=
> GATEWAY=
> GATEWAYDEV=eth0
> NISDOMAIN=""
> IPX="no"
> IPXINTERNALNETNUM="0"
> IPXINTERNALNODENUM="0"
> IPXAUTOPRIMARY="on"
> IPXAUTOFRAME="on"
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> DEVICE="eth0"
> USERCTL=no
> ONBOOT="yes"
> BOOTPROTO="none"
> BROADCAST=64.40.68.255
> NETWORK=64.40.68.248
> NETMASK="255.255.255.252"
> IPADDR="64.40.68.250"
> IPXNETNUM_802_2=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_2="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_2="no"
> IPXNETNUM_802_3=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_3="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_3="no"
> IPXNETNUM_ETHERII=""
> IPXPRIMARY_ETHERII="no"
> IPXACTIVE_ETHERII="no"
> IPXNETNUM_SNAP=""
> IPXPRIMARY_SNAP="no"
> IPXACTIVE_SNAP="no"
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
> DEVICE="eth1"
> USERCTL=yes
> ONBOOT="yes"
> BOOTPROTO="none"
> BROADCAST=192.168.0.255
> NETWORK=192.168.0.0
> NETMASK="255.255.255.0"
> IPADDR="192.168.0.1"
> IPXNETNUM_802_2=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_2="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_2="no"
> IPXNETNUM_802_3=""
> IPXPRIMARY_802_3="no"
> IPXACTIVE_802_3="no"
> IPXNETNUM_ETHERII=""
> IPXPRIMARY_ETHERII="no"
> IPXACTIVE_ETHERII="no"
> IPXNETNUM_SNAP=""
> IPXPRIMARY_SNAP="no"
> IPXACTIVE_SNAP="no"
>
> -------------------------------
>
> Again, thanks to anyone who can help!
>
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: AutoMount 2nd CDROM in Redhat 6.2?
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 05:20:03 GMT
Hi, there,
I have one SCSI CD-ROM drive (/dev/cdrom) and one SCSI CD-RW
(/dev/cdrom1) drive in my system. I had installed Redhat 6.2
on it. Both drives are seen by Linux. I am running GNOME
winder manager.
As 'root', both drives are set as auto-mount. When I place
an audio CD in either one, it is played automatically.
But as a normal user, I can only set /dev/cdrom as auto-mount.
The CD-RW drive can't be set as auto-mount. I tried to use 'Rescan
Device' with right mouse button. But it doesn't work. It won't
auto-mount neither audio nor data CD and no icon on
the desktop.
Is there any way to fix it?
--
Regards,
Roger Shum
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Telnet from Windows
Date: 29 May 2000 22:35:14 PST
Brian Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey there. This is probably a dumb question to ask but I was really
> wondering if anyone knew of any good telnet programs that I can use from
> Windows to telnet into a Red Hat Linux box? The main reason I ask is
> that I really want to find out a way or a program that will let me when
> I telnet in and use vim to work on perl documents to keep all of the
> color coding that it uses.
Us the telnet program called CRT.
--
Neil
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From: "knud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: DHCP kills kppp - please help
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 01:57:04 -0500
> In article <8gupth$383$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "knud"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have my linux box plugged into the local LAN. The problem is, when I
>> set the ethernet card to connect via DHCP (as it should), linux no
>> longer recognizes kppp modem connections. That is to say, kppp connects
>> to my ISP but my apps wont use the connection even though the Internet
>> at large isn't visiable from the LAN.
>>
>> What I'm forced to do is kill the ethernet connection each time I want
>> to dail out. What can I do to have both connection working at the same
>> time?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> knud
>>
> In article <hnEY4.14851$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "asdf"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You problem is when ppp is started, your defauld route is still set to
> use your local network. Since you're using kppp, you can edit your
> account, click the gateway tab, and check
> "Assign the Default Route to this Gateway".
> Unfortunately sometimes this doesn't work. You may have to edit the
> up/down scripts in
> /etc/ppp or manually set the default route using the route command.
>
I'm using ksaferppp by Caldera so I can't edit kppp in the manner you
mentioned. Could you explain in more detail how to edit the /etc/ppp
up/down scripts?
Thanks in advance!
knud
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