Linux-Misc Digest #956, Volume #24 Tue, 27 Jun 00 20:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD (J Bland)
Re: ASF on Linux? (Nicholas Murison)
Re: Linux Hangs (freeze) HELP. (Rafael)
RedHat 6.2 remote access problems (Eric)
Re: Gnome vs KDE (The Darkener)
Re: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD (The Darkener)
Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* ("Art S. Kagel")
Re: Full System Restore (Dances With Crows)
pppd unexpectedly quits!!! (Mink)
Re: ????Linux Installation and Setup Questionare???? (Dmitri V)
Names and Definitions of C functions? (Craig McCluskey)
Re: Linux erased Windows!!!!!!!!!!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Gnome vs KDE (James Suttie)
Re: removing soft links (bullwinkle)
Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* (Shawn Smith)
Re: Names and Definitions of C functions? ("Matt Hughes")
Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s* (Andreas Schweitzer)
Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive ("Matt Hughes")
Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive ("Matt Hughes")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD
Date: 27 Jun 2000 22:05:56 GMT
>Linux requires at least 4M. You might try Minix, which can definitely run
>vi and some sort of Telnet client, and is a lot more usable than ELKS atm.
Maybe DOS?
Please, don't kill me! ;)
Frinky
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From: Nicholas Murison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASF on Linux?
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:15:56 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There _was_ an media player with ASF support for Linux, but the author
had to cut out that part of the code after M$ flexed some legal muscle.
I believe there are tools out there for Windows that can convert ASFs to
MEPGs, but I can't any specific ones.
--
Nicholas John Murison
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don't mess with penguins
Registered Linux User #153895 http://counter.li.org
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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Hangs (freeze) HELP.
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:21:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hej Ron!
You was a great help to me. Unfortunately I have 3 more power suplies but all of
them are less (230W) than this I have in Chassi. Do you know if I can connect
two of them to get more power. Is it save if I conect + 12 V from one power
suply with the other and connect to motherboard?
>From two days I am running linux with no-hlt option and it not hang. But this is
not solution.
Lot of thanks for your answers
Rafael
Ron wrote:
> Rafael,
>
> You most likely have a problem in either the motherboard or power supply.
> It may even be a bios setting in the motherboard. Your best solution at
> this point is to try substituting a different power supply or motherboard.
> Borrow one if you have to.
>
> Power supplies sense the current being drawn by your hardware. The power
> supply outputs four voltages: +5V, -5V, +12V, and -12V, but the bulk of the
> power is in the +5V and +12V lines. Where are you measuring 44 watts and
> with what equipment?
>
> If you increase the CPU voltage, the CPU will typically draw more power.
> This will translate into more current being drawn from the power supply,
> depending on the regulators used on the motherboard. But it is only a small
> difference. If that small of a difference causes the power supply to become
> unstable, I would replace it! Perhaps you could confirm this by adding a
> 20W dummy load to your power supply +5V line and see if the system remains
> stable.
>
> However, the problem with the reset switch seems to point to the
> motherboard. Resets are hardware signals that force all the hardware into a
> known state. If some device will not reset, it has failed and must be
> replaced. The same reset you get by pushing the reset button is also
> automatically done everytime at powerup. It is essential to have all the
> hardware reset to a known state in order to be able to set it up correctly.
>
> Ron
>
> Rafael wrote:
> >
> > Hej Brian!
> > Thanks for your answers.
> > Maybe I will give you more info. I have AT power suplie not ATX. I was
> > chacking also by special equipment how many energy my computer take. And
> > it showed 44 Watts in LInux and 64 in Windows (Microsoft), when I
> > instaled Hmonitor (program making halt) the consumtion was the same as
> > in Linux but it not hangs.
> > Can you tell me why it hangs not so often if I change Voltage to 2.8
> > from 2.4.
> > But I checked also that the total power consumtion is the same 44Watts.
> > Please help me if you have any advice.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > your
> > Rafael
> >
> > brian moore wrote:
> >
> >> Check your power supply.
> >>
> >> This sounds very similar to another person's problems here a couple
> >> years ago: his system would run fine in Windows, and would run in Linux
> >> until he let the computer idle. After 10 minutes or so of idle time it
> >> would die. If he left a while(1) program running, it would work fine.
> >>
> >> The problem was his power supply: when Linux idles, it issues a 'halt'
> >> instruction to the CPU to sleep until the next interrupt. This puts the
> >> CPU into a low-power mode as well and reduces draw on the power supply.
> >> With a switching power supply, though, you need a certain amount of draw
> >> or it becomes unstable. It didn't affect Windows because Windows
> >> doesn't issue a halt: it just busy-loops, providing the equivalent of a
> >> while(1) running at all times.
> >>
> >> You certainly have a hardware problem: Linux can not disable the reset
> >> switch.
> >>
> ...snip...
Ron wrote:
> Rafael,
>
> You most likely have a problem in either the motherboard or power supply.
> It may even be a bios setting in the motherboard. Your best solution at
> this point is to try substituting a different power supply or motherboard.
> Borrow one if you have to.
>
> Power supplies sense the current being drawn by your hardware. The power
> supply outputs four voltages: +5V, -5V, +12V, and -12V, but the bulk of the
> power is in the +5V and +12V lines. Where are you measuring 44 watts and
> with what equipment?
>
> If you increase the CPU voltage, the CPU will typically draw more power.
> This will translate into more current being drawn from the power supply,
> depending on the regulators used on the motherboard. But it is only a small
> difference. If that small of a difference causes the power supply to become
> unstable, I would replace it! Perhaps you could confirm this by adding a
> 20W dummy load to your power supply +5V line and see if the system remains
> stable.
>
> However, the problem with the reset switch seems to point to the
> motherboard. Resets are hardware signals that force all the hardware into a
> known state. If some device will not reset, it has failed and must be
> replaced. The same reset you get by pushing the reset button is also
> automatically done everytime at powerup. It is essential to have all the
> hardware reset to a known state in order to be able to set it up correctly.
>
> Ron
>
> Rafael wrote:
> >
> > Hej Brian!
> > Thanks for your answers.
> > Maybe I will give you more info. I have AT power suplie not ATX. I was
> > chacking also by special equipment how many energy my computer take. And
> > it showed 44 Watts in LInux and 64 in Windows (Microsoft), when I
> > instaled Hmonitor (program making halt) the consumtion was the same as
> > in Linux but it not hangs.
> > Can you tell me why it hangs not so often if I change Voltage to 2.8
> > from 2.4.
> > But I checked also that the total power consumtion is the same 44Watts.
> > Please help me if you have any advice.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > your
> > Rafael
> >
> > brian moore wrote:
> >
> >> Check your power supply.
> >>
> >> This sounds very similar to another person's problems here a couple
> >> years ago: his system would run fine in Windows, and would run in Linux
> >> until he let the computer idle. After 10 minutes or so of idle time it
> >> would die. If he left a while(1) program running, it would work fine.
> >>
> >> The problem was his power supply: when Linux idles, it issues a 'halt'
> >> instruction to the CPU to sleep until the next interrupt. This puts the
> >> CPU into a low-power mode as well and reduces draw on the power supply.
> >> With a switching power supply, though, you need a certain amount of draw
> >> or it becomes unstable. It didn't affect Windows because Windows
> >> doesn't issue a halt: it just busy-loops, providing the equivalent of a
> >> while(1) running at all times.
> >>
> >> You certainly have a hardware problem: Linux can not disable the reset
> >> switch.
> >>
> ...snip...
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.2 remote access problems
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:23:36 GMT
I custom installed RH 6.2, installing all included packages. I'm running
ftp, telnet, smtp, http, and pop-3. I can access my computer remotely on
all
of these ports. Until a remote-session times out.
I am accessing my computer remotely, from my other Win 95 computer
downstairs.
I don't have my two local computers connected via the local net, so I'm
accessing
my Linux box via the internet. If I'm in an active telnet session, and I
walk away
from the computer for a minute or two, the telnet session on my Win 95
box
freezes. After that, I cannot get back into my Linux box, regardless of
which port I try. I walk upstairs to the Linux box, kill the remote bash
session,
and all appears well. Until I try to connect remotely again. No telnet,
no ftp,
no http, etc.
Having exhausted all other routes, the only way I can successfully log
into my
Linux box from the internet is to reboot the Linux machine. I know that
it is the
Linux box, because even after the remote telnet sessions freeze up on my
Windows 95 box, I can still use Win 95 to telnet to other computers --
indicating it's not theWin 95 telnet program causing the problem.
Please tell me what else I can do.
Thanks,
Eric
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:37:44 GMT
I wouldn't limit yourself to those 2. Try Blackbox. Try Enlightenment.
Try Afterstep, IceWM, and Windowmaker. Hell, try straight commandline.
Don't limit yourself. This is Linux, remember? =)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Should I spend time getting used to KDE or Gnome? I tried both and I
> can't say I developed definite preference. Which desktop most people
> use? I've heard KDE is considered to be more promising (with KDE2 to be
> released soon). How come Gnome is RedHat's default desktop?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on 386er notebook with 1MB Ram and 60MB HDD
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:41:41 GMT
Die. Die. Die. =)
Actually, DOS might be a more feasable solution, but try QNX too, it runs off
of a floppy disk (Even has it's own gui! Very impressive!), but of course makes
a RAMDisk and don't know how much it requires...
J Bland wrote:
> >Linux requires at least 4M. You might try Minix, which can definitely run
> >vi and some sort of Telnet client, and is a lot more usable than ELKS atm.
>
> Maybe DOS?
>
> Please, don't kill me! ;)
>
> Frinky
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Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:26:23 -0400
From: "Art S. Kagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Hendrix wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> As a newbie, I would like to take this time and ask a few questions
> regarding the pronounciation of various GNU/Linux utilities, commands,
> licences, concepts etc...<grin> I've heard that different people
> pronounce these things differently anyhow, but just the same, I'm
> interested in knowing how you guys repeat these words... Should be fun,
> here goes nothing...*s*
>
> 1. vi --- Is it spelled out or spoken "Veye"...
Vee Eye
> 2. GNU --- Is it spelled out, or pronounced "New"...
G-New
> 3. Linux --- Leee-nucks, Len-nucks, or Lie-nucks(How does Linus say
> it?)..
Li nix
> 4. SQL --- Is it spelled out, or pronounced "Sequel".. I've heard
> both..
SeQuel was IBM's original answer to Ingres's QUEL query language. It later
was enhanced and expanded and the name was replaced with the acronym SQL
for Structured Query Language. SQL is usually pronounced as S-Q-L by those
of us old enough to remember SeQuel and Quel and as Sequel by the young.
> 5. Daemon --- Is it demon, or daymon...
Deemon
> 6. TCL --- I've heard it called Tickle...???*s*
Both are common. I prefer T-C-L myself.
> 7. pico --- Is it pee-co or pie-co...??? (Hey, I've used it
> too)...*s*
Pie Co
> In addition, could someone please enlighten me on the following
> "simple-natured" questions...???
>
> 1. Why is Unix-based systems referred to as *nix based systems when
> linux and various other versions end in "ux"...???
Because UNIX was a trademark of AT&T and later the organization that AT&T
handed control of the source over to it is not correct to refer to any
UNIX-like OS that is not derived from System V source code as UNIX.
> 2. Is FreeBSD linux or not...??? When I ordered all the distributions
> from <www.linuxmall.com> I was sent FreeBSD with all the other
> distros...
No, FreeBSD is based on the BSD UNIX distribution source NOT Linux source.
> 3. Does the POSIX standard dictate the directory structure of *nix based
> systems (usr, home, bin, etc, var et cetera...)...??? If so, where can
> I get a copy of this POSIX standard...??? What else does the standard
> dictate...???
>
> 4. Does the sysvinit program install the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
> when it is installed itself...??? I know the 'init' process activates
> and respawns these programs, but is the 'login' and 'sulogin' programs
> part of the sysvinit distribution...???
>
> 5. Does anyone but me use 'pico'...???*smile* Getting used to 'vi' is
> just killing me...!!!*s*
Try emacs next. Please no holy wars.
> Sorry for bombarding you guys with all these questions, but I figure
> this is the best place to inquire...*smile* Thanks to all you took the
> time to read and/or respond to this email... Take care...
Art S. Kagel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Full System Restore
Date: 27 Jun 2000 19:01:04 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:30:03 GMT, Brian Helm
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I performed a full system backup using 'tar' and backed up every thing
>from '/' on down. I went to perform a full system restore using the same
>tape and the system totally froze up when attempting to restore
>the /lib/ld-2.1.2.so and /lib/ld-linux.so.2 files.
>
>Is there a way to boot and run a kernal that will not utilize any
>libraries on the hard drive so that I can complete my full system restore?
This is what root/boot disks are for. If your system gets completely
screwed over, you boot from something like Tom's ( http://toms.net/rb/
) mount the root partition under /mnt and create any mountpoints if you
need to, then mount the other partitions under /mnt/usr, /mnt/home,
etc. Then you cd /mnt and tar xf /dev/st0 ... the full backup you created
will unstuff itself into /mnt as if /mnt were /, while the libraries you
need for tar's operation are safe under / .
Overwriting /lib/libc and /lib/ld.so while the system is running is Not
Considered Safe, since every dynamically linked user-space program depends
on those. You can also get around this problem by playing games with
chroot, but that can backfire severely if you don't know what you're
doing.
Also, tar does not preserve absolute sector positions on disk. To get the
system to boot from the hard drive once again, you'll have to re-run LILO
once you've made the full backup. There are certain programs that can
make the whole process a lot easier--BRU is one, but it's payware. amanda
and cpio have their partisans too. HTH,
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows /\ "Man could not stare too long at the face
\----[this space for rent]-----/ \ of the Computer or her children and still
\There is no Darkness in Eternity \ remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me
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From: Mink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pppd unexpectedly quits!!!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:57:29 GMT
Hi everyone,
I've got a problem with dialing into my ISP. pppd just quits when my
machine and the isp's server are authenticating. Here' the error
message:
"The remote system is required to authenticate itself but I couldn't
find any secret (password) which would let it use an ip address."
I've tried dialing up using both DIP and kppp-dialer with the same
results.
*Sometimes though I actually manage to log-on, which is really weird.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Cheers,
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Dmitri V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ????Linux Installation and Setup Questionare????
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:08:45 +0300
> 3)how do i find my computers specifications and configurations correct so
> i can program them into my XF86Setup?
Well, this is only *my* experience, but:
1. Usually, Linux installation script determines your hardware without
any problems. Unless you've got something *very* new or *very* strange.
But if you have troubles with installing Linux, info about your hardware
is an indispensable thing. Really. Do not try to underestimate it.
2. If you have windows on this machine, go to My Computer -> Properties
-> Device Manager and write down/print out everything you see there.
But if you do not have Windoze, you may want to
3a. Get down a screwdriver, open the box and look what is there.
3b. Blow a layer of dust you've collected on the manuals of your machine
and RTFM, RTFM, RTFM, RTFM....
There are also many ways to gather info from within Linux:
SuperProbe will tell you everything you wanted to know about you video
card, but were afraid to ask;
cat /proc/pci will kindly inforom you what is on you pci bus;
cat /proc/cpuinfo - same about cpu;
xdpyinfo will give you extensive information about your X server;
... and so on!
HTH
Dmitri
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From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Names and Definitions of C functions?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:16:29 -0500
In another thread,
On 26 Jun 2000 11:21:06 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>You don't HAVE to link it with any. But I think you are
>asking "where are the math functions". They're in the
>math library, libm. So compile with -lm.
>
>This is a unix FAQ.
Where or how does one find out what functions are available in the
various C libraries, what they do and how they are invoked? I have
checked the /usr/doc/FAQs and found nothing.
I know I can get the names of the functions that are in a specific
library with the nm command, but this only gets me the names.
Any help is appreciated.
Craig
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux erased Windows!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:12:42 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
fredrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Help me please!
>
> When I installed linux it erased windows 98 on my computer.
> What can I do to get it back? I have a recovery disc but i cant use it
because I dont have c: it's called something else.
> Please help me is there any way I can do to get c: back insteed of /?
>
> Fredrik
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
>
the '/' you speak of is from linux's ext2 file system. to get rid of it
try repartitioning with dos's fdisk (deleting the non-dos partitions) or
simply use any partitioning software to repartition and reformat your
hd..there are much better ones out there than dos's fdisk! this usually
consists of booting the machine with the partition disk in the
3.5"drive, repartition the hard drive as you need to..reformat..then
reinstall (gasp!) windows...if you want linux and windows...use LILO or
some other dual boot software.
excuse my winblows...im at work!
cabal
--you are no longer boone---you are cabal---save me from my enemies--
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Suttie)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:27:33 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Definitely give Enlightenment a try if you've got the RAM; it takes a bit of
getting used to after windows but it's well worth the effort. That said I
use KDE and Gnome a lot too; depends what takes my fancy at the time (therein
lies one of the beauties of Linux)!
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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing soft links
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:30:09 GMT
Phil Reardon wrote:
>
> Recently I made a soft link by going into the target directory and
> issuing ln -s /home/myhome. How can I delete this link, without
> removing or loosing the stuff in myhome?
>
I'm not sure you made a symbolic (soft) link with that command. You
need a target and a link name or a directory. For example:
ln -s /home/myhome mylinkname
The command to delete the link in my example would be:
rm mylinkname
Try the command ls -l from the path /home/myhome and look to see if
you really did make a symbolic link, then remove it with rm if it is there.
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: Shawn Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:52:53 -0500
>1. vi --- Is it spelled out or spoken "Veye"...
I pronounce it peeco, or zeemacs :)
--
All the best,
Shawn Smith !UNT Proud!
My Resume http://sites.netscape.net/shawnspad/shawn_smith_resume.htm
My freeware: http://sites.netscape.net/shawnspad
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From: "Matt Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Names and Definitions of C functions?
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:56:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Craig McCluskey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In another thread,
>
> On 26 Jun 2000 11:21:06 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>You don't HAVE to link it with any. But I think you are asking "where
>>are the math functions". They're in the math library, libm. So compile
>>with -lm.
>>
>>This is a unix FAQ.
>
> Where or how does one find out what functions are available in the
> various C libraries, what they do and how they are invoked? I have
> checked the /usr/doc/FAQs and found nothing.
>
> I know I can get the names of the functions that are in a specific
> library with the nm command, but this only gets me the names.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Craig
Assuming you're running a modern Linux, just type info at the command line
or in emacs, and go down to glibc. Also, try the man pages, ex. "man abs",
so once you know the name of a function from nm, use man on the name. . If
you want a book, get the C/C++ programmers reference by Herbert Schildt.
Matt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Schweitzer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Simple questions: Pronounce, FreeBSD, pico etc....*s*
Date: 27 Jun 2000 23:59:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hendrix wrote:
>1. vi --- Is it spelled out or spoken "Veye"...
Since the responses seem to be not unique : here is the quote
from the jargon file :
vi: /V-I/, *not* /vi/ and *never* /siks/ n.
Or as you can find on any page that renders homage to vi like
http://www.thomer.com/thomer/vi/vi.html
Andreas
--
Andreas Schweitzer
http://dilbert.physast.uga.edu/~andy/
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From: "Matt Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:09:23 GMT
To change which drive is recognized as master, just set the jumpers on
your drives. Usually, drives will have a jumper which can be set to slave,
master, or cable select. Set the small drive to slave, the big drive to
master, and the bios will sort it out. You'll have to copy your windows to
the new drive, I would normally do this in Linux, using Slackware
bootdisks, cfdisking the new drive, mounting both the old and the new, and
doing a "cp -R /mnt/old/* /mnt/new", but not everyone might be comfortable
with that. You could try using Norton Ghost or something. Once you get
your Windows copied and bootintg ok, then just stick the Caldera CD in and
let 'er boot. The Caldera installer will let you pick which drive and
partition to install to; it isn't a problem. You'll have to install LILO
on the MBR of the master to be able to boot into both Windows and Linux,
since Linux will be on a second drive. If they were both on the same
drive, you could just install LILO in the Linux paritions boot sector, and
make that the bootable partition. If for what ever reason LILO screws up,
you can always remove it by having a Win95 boot disk with fdisk on it,
booting off of that and running "fdisk /mbr" to restor the windows boot
sector. Once you do that, the only way to get Linux going will be with a
boot disk.
Check www.linuxdoc.org for more information about running Windows and
Linux together.
Matt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> here is my situation. I have a 10 gig hard drive which is running
> windows right now. I am going to install a new 30 gig hard drive. I
> want to install the new drive and setup a dual boot system with windows
> 98 and caldera openlinux edesktop 2.4. I want windows to run on the
> big drive
> (which I want to be the master drive) and linux to run on my older,
> smaller drive (the slave which is now my only drive. what is the best
> way to go about doing this? how do I switch the drives to make the
> computer recognize my big drive and not the little one as the master?
> how do I install linux on ONLY the smaller drive? help!
>
> lou
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com http://www.help.com/
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From: "Matt Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux windows dual boot setup with newer bigger faster hard drive
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 00:09:44 GMT
To change which drive is recognized as master, just set the jumpers on
your drives. Usually, drives will have a jumper which can be set to slave,
master, or cable select. Set the small drive to slave, the big drive to
master, and the bios will sort it out. You'll have to copy your windows to
the new drive, I would normally do this in Linux, using Slackware
bootdisks, cfdisking the new drive, mounting both the old and the new, and
doing a "cp -R /mnt/old/* /mnt/new", but not everyone might be comfortable
with that. You could try using Norton Ghost or something. Once you get
your Windows copied and bootintg ok, then just stick the Caldera CD in and
let 'er boot. The Caldera installer will let you pick which drive and
partition to install to; it isn't a problem. You'll have to install LILO
on the MBR of the master to be able to boot into both Windows and Linux,
since Linux will be on a second drive. If they were both on the same
drive, you could just install LILO in the Linux paritions boot sector, and
make that the bootable partition. If for what ever reason LILO screws up,
you can always remove it by having a Win95 boot disk with fdisk on it,
booting off of that and running "fdisk /mbr" to restor the windows boot
sector. Once you do that, the only way to get Linux going will be with a
boot disk.
Check www.linuxdoc.org for more information about running Windows and
Linux together.
Matt
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lou
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> here is my situation. I have a 10 gig hard drive which is running
> windows right now. I am going to install a new 30 gig hard drive. I
> want to install the new drive and setup a dual boot system with windows
> 98 and caldera openlinux edesktop 2.4. I want windows to run on the
> big drive
> (which I want to be the master drive) and linux to run on my older,
> smaller drive (the slave which is now my only drive. what is the best
> way to go about doing this? how do I switch the drives to make the
> computer recognize my big drive and not the little one as the master?
> how do I install linux on ONLY the smaller drive? help!
>
> lou
>
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