Linux-Misc Digest #353, Volume #25                Sat, 5 Aug 00 17:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: *Virtual Desktops* (William R. Mattil)
  Re: Config.sys parameters is my Question.  What is it or are they? (William R. 
Mattil)
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: "ln -s" on dos partition (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Johan Kullstam)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Robert Krawitz)
  Re: unable to locate cpp (Charles H. Chapman)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (phil hunt)
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (phil hunt)
  Modifying Redhat 6.2 (Frank Hale)
  RedHat boot disks (Frank Hale)
  Re: Goosing the Mouse ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
  Re: ISO file help ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
  Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big? ("D. C. & M. V. Sessions")
  Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (Phillip Lord)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Mattil)
Subject: Re: *Virtual Desktops*
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:36:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
N/A  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>how do i turn off off virtual desktops so i can use xvidtune so i can stop 
>my display from being MASSIVELY large so i can see it all!!!!
>
>explain in newbie language please thank you.
>

Take a look at /etc/X11/XF86Config


================= snip =================
   Subsection "Display"
        Depth       16
        Modes       "800x600"
        ViewPort    0 0
        Virtual     1280 1024
    EndSubsection
================== end snip =============

Find the appropriate location to edit, and change the Virtual Line to match
the Mode and you'll be all set. Be careful though, editing this file isn't
for the weak of heart. Make a back-up first. Just in Case :^)


IIRC Xconfiurator is a gui that will let you change these things.


Hope this helps.

Bill
-- 
William R. Mattil       | Fred Astaire wasn't so great.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Ginger had to do it all backwards
(972) 399-4106          | and... in high heels.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William R. Mattil)
Subject: Re: Config.sys parameters is my Question.  What is it or are they?
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:39:20 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
G. Eugene Mitchell  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am practicing on a pentium pci/isa.
>Can't seem to boot up from dos. 
>too many unknowns.
> Thanks in advance.
>   P.S. 
>
>I am using Windows 95, upgrade.
>

Find a more appropriate Newsgroup for starters.


Bill

-- 
William R. Mattil       | Fred Astaire wasn't so great.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  | Ginger had to do it all backwards
(972) 399-4106          | and... in high heels.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:03:42 GMT

On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 13:18:53 +0000, D. D. Brierton wrote:
>Why are the contents of /var/lib/rpm so enormous? As I understand it,
>this is the location of the rpm databases, listing everything that's
>installed on my machine. Well, I do admittedly have a lot of packages
>installed, but 56MB seems pretty big to me. So, is this to be expected,
>or ought I to be doing something to keep the size of these files in
>check somehow?

Mine appeare similar (SuSE 6.4 downloaded ISO ver), although the directory
is only just over 6MB on my system.

>From my initial observations, it would appear as if the files, specifically
fileindex.rpm and packages.rpm contain detailed information on all packages,
most likely to give you the ability to uninstall all files at a later date.
If you do in fact have several packages installed, including several large
packages, it stands to reason that these files should be rather large.

Mine are likely so low because I generally uninstall the RPM packages and
compile/install from tarballs as much software as possible. My goal is to
eventually have every single piece of software on my system compiled by
myself.

(Call me oldschool if you will, I just prefer it that way :> )

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Subject: Re: "ln -s" on dos partition
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:06:17 GMT

On Sat, 05 Aug 2000 14:22:42 GMT, Robert Heller wrote:
>VG> We can't create symbolic links on dos/fat partition
>VG> using linux "ln -s <dst> <src>".
>VG> Is there any way around?
>
>Nope.  Blame Microsoft.

In part you're correct, but mostly not quite so. The FAT filesystem,
much like HPFS, NTFS, etc.. has no place set aside for attributes
as ext2 and ReiserFS have. Much like OS/2 can't put EA's on files stored
on an ext2 partition. On DOS partitions there is a workaround by placing
an "EA DATA.SF" file in the root of the partition, but this hasn't been
done (TTBOMK) for ext2 (considering OS/2 doesn't natively support ext2,
this is no surprise).

It might be possible to create a link and somehow move it over to the DOS
partition, but I'm not sure how well it would work, or if it would corrupt
the DOS partition in the process.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://tinys.cx/blackdeath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE 6.4, Linux 2.4.0-test5

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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 05 Aug 2000 15:16:51 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> phil hunt wrote:

> > Yes, and other people can't. So it isn't free. A free market implies lots
> > of independent buyers asnd sellers. The *whole* point of copyright is to
> > give someone an artificial monopoly in a good.
> > 
> Yes. A free market implies lots of buyers and sellers.
> 
> BUT.......
> 
> It never implies that anybody can sell anything which they don't own, or
> created, or have legal title to.

This is a circular argument, and not really relevant to what we're
talking about anyway.

As for the relevance part: just because a market is illegal doesn't
make it not fit the definition of a free market.

The claim at hand is that copyright interferes with the workings of a
truly free market by forbidding others from making copies and selling
them (giving one person an artificial monopoly in the good).

A free market implies free dealing among informed, competitive buyers
and sellers, with freedom to enter and exit the market.  A copyright
distorts this by forbidding other potential sellers from joining the
market.  Therefore, there cannot be a competitive market for, say,
Microsoft Windows, because only one entity is allowed to sell it.
Someone else cannot (legally) enter the market selling their own
copies of it.  Nor can someone enter the market for variants of
Windows, because copyright covers derived works as well as original
works.

So the argument that copyright doesn't destroy the free market because
those potential other sellers cannot enter the market because it's not
legal is circular: it's the presence of copyright law in the first
place that forbids it.

That isn't in and of itself saying that copyright is bad, or that it's
good.  I am not a libertarian; I don't believe that free markets are
an end unto themselves.  Free markets tend to have problems where
there are external effects not accountable for in the market.  For
example, someone entering the chemical business sets up a plant that
pollutes the air.  The market for chemicals doesn't take this into
account.

The idea behind copyright is that the absence of this restriction the
price that can be charged for the good in question is low enough so
that it discourages the creation of new works, and that greater
creation of new works outweighs the loss in freedom and the higher
prices paid by buyers.  The marginal cost of production of another
copy of a book (much less an MP3) is tiny, so in the absence of
copyright, the original creators of a song or program would never be
able to recover their investment.

The latter is surely true.  I'm never going to recover my investment
in gimp-print (time, ink cartridges, paper).  But on the other hand,
money isn't what motivated me to do it; having it available to allow
people (not least of whom is myself) to print under Linux/UNIX is.  I
think copyright goes too far in the other direction and ignores the
inherent creativity that lurks in many people.

-- 
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 19:11:38 GMT

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Hasler wrote:
> > 
> > blowfish writes:
> > > Copyright does not interfers with free market.
> > 
> > The express purpose of copyright is to suppress the free market in copies
> > of copyrighted works.
> 
> Here we go again!
> 
> The express purpose of copyright is to keep the *FREE LOADERS* away. So,
> the copyright owner can sell his/her work in the FREE MARKET, or allow
> it to be used under their own FREE will.

no, the express purpose of copyright is to stimulate innovation and
eventually add that knowledge to the world.  look up the clause in the
united states constitution some time.  it most certainly does suppress
the free market.  if it makes some people rich is beside the point.

-- 
J o h a n  K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!

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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 05 Aug 2000 15:21:39 -0400

blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John Hasler wrote:
> > 
> > blowfish writes:
> > > Copyright does not interfers with free market.
> > 
> > The express purpose of copyright is to suppress the free market in copies
> > of copyrighted works.
> 
> Here we go again!
> 
> The express purpose of copyright is to keep the *FREE LOADERS* away. So,
> the copyright owner can sell his/her work in the FREE MARKET, or allow
> it to be used under their own FREE will.
> 
> Kapish!

No, because the definition of a "free market" says nothing about "free
loaders" one way or the other.

Everyone's a free loader to some extent, in that they use the
infrastructure that exists.  People free load from the day they're
born -- it couldn't be otherwise, a human infant cannot take care of
itself.  We don't as individuals all have to go out and grow our own
food, hunt our own meat, build our own tools to chop down our own
trees to build our own houses.

There are a lot of people who seem more concerned about people free
loading than they are about simply living comfortably themselves.  I
honestly believe that a lot of people would willingly reduce their own
standard of living if only it would get rid of "free loaders".  That's
the theory behind a lot of silly tax shelters: people would rather
reduce their after-tax income if it means paying less taxes to begin
with.

-- 
Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>      http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/

Tall Clubs International  --  http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project lead for The Gimp Print --  http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net

"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
--Eric Crampton

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From: Charles H. Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unable to locate cpp
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 15:04:13 -0400

Peter Bishop wrote:
> If by 'cpp' you mean the C++ compiler, the GCC compiler is invoked with
> 'g++'. Try:
> 
>       man gcc, man g++

Nah, cpp has nothing to do with C++.  It's the C preprocessor for the C
compiler (the thing that translates macros and other stuff in the source
file before it's handed over to the C compiler).  I'm not sure why it
wasn't installed along with the compiler on your system.  On the Red Hat
6.2 system I have here, it was in RPM cpp-1.1.2-30.rpm.

Chuck


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 02:41:30 +0100

On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:00:59 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Then, the natives in E. Timor got tired of being ruled by "outsider.",
>and tired of the Chinese-Indosians controlling much of the economy. They
>rebelled.

This isn't quite true. East Timor was an independent country, which Indonesia
invaded and occupied. 

-- 
*****[ Phil Hunt ]*****
** The RIAA want to ban Napster -- so boycott the music industry!   **
** Don't buy CDs during August; see http://boycott-riaa.com/        **
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 02:48:57 +0100

On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 15:16:22 -0700, blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>phil hunt wrote:
>> > No. You're incorrect.
>> >
>> >Copyright does not interfers with free market.  In fact, copy rights
>> >support free market.  Because the copyrights owner can sell his/her work
>> >any which ways s/he wants.
>> 
>> Yes, and other people can't. So it isn't free. A free market implies lots
>> of independent buyers asnd sellers. The *whole* point of copyright is to
>> give someone an artificial monopoly in a good.
>> 
>Yes. A free market implies lots of buyers and sellers.
>
>BUT.......
>
>It never implies that anybody can sell anything which they don't own, or
>created, or have legal title to.
>
>That's why you cannot sell stolen property in Harrod's, or set up shop
>on Union Street, or the Piccadily Square; or put up a booth right
>outside of 10, Downing Street, in London.

But I could make a house that's an exact copy of 10 downing street, and
sell that!

Assume copyright doesn't exist: Then if I, on media that I do own, make a 
copy of some information, then I am selling something I do own.

-- 
*****[ Phil Hunt ]*****
** The RIAA want to ban Napster -- so boycott the music industry!   **
** Don't buy CDs during August; see http://boycott-riaa.com/        **
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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modifying Redhat 6.2
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:49:19 GMT

I am in the process of changing the packages which are installed with RH
6.2. I will then burn it to CD so that it can be installed. Since I am
making rather large changes to the installed packages I want to change
the release name (Zoot) to something like (Zoot-Update) or something
like that so that when I log in or someone else installs my CD they will
know that its been updated. Which RPM is this stored in. I tried
redhat-release.rpm but this doesn't contain version number or release
name. Those 2 things I am looking for.

thanks,
Frank

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From: Frank Hale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.devel
Subject: RedHat boot disks
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 20:51:29 GMT

How are the RH boot disks created? I am modifying my RH 6.2 CD and would
like to provide updated boot disks with kernel 2.2.16 on it. Is there a
HOWTO or FAQ somewhere that shows how to make an install boot disk for
RedHat linux? I'm specifically talking about the install boot disk for
RH installations.

thanks,
Frank

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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Goosing the Mouse
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:47:46 -0700

Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> 
> "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" wrote:

> > Yeah, gpm can be set to report a multiplier, but that just
> > means that you skip every other pixel or whatever.  What I
> > want is a more sensitive mouse.  Rumor has it that some mice
> > can actually be told to increase their sensitivity.
> 
> I'm using the latest Kensington scroll mouse (PS/2/USB) and adding a
> line to my XF86Config file (Resolution=250) fixed me right up. :)  I
> think the mouse actually feels a bit better in Linux than it does in
> Win98 using their fancy Mousworks driver.  You can tweak the setting
> to your liking.  I found higher settings made it too sensitive and
> lower settings too slow.  Of course, your mouse might not like that
> setting, but it's worth a try.

Aside from the fact that the syntax is

  Resolution          250

it seems to work as well as the mouse allows.
Many thanks!

-- 
| Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable       |
| e-mail address.  Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel.    |
| There isn't really a tooth fairy, but whois toothfairy.com works.  |
+----------- D. C. & M. V. Sessions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----------+

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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISO file help
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:54:05 -0700

Cool wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I've download the zoot-1386.iso file from official Redhat site.  Is this
> file bootable? and How can I boot it.  I burned it on a CD ROM and it
> doesn't work at all. Is there any trick that I need to know? I'm new to both
> Linux and English....  Thanks.

Some people burn the ISO file onto the disk as a file -- that is,
if you do an ls on the disk you see zoot.iso or something like that.

CD burners make ISO images in the course of preparation to burn the
disk; you need to tell your burner (details depend on the burner) to
use the ISO image as is.

-- 
| Bogus as it might seem, people, this really is a deliverable       |
| e-mail address.  Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel.    |
| There isn't really a tooth fairy, but whois toothfairy.com works.  |
+----------- D. C. & M. V. Sessions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----------+

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From: "D. C. & M. V. Sessions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Size of /var/lib/rpm - why so big?
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 10:00:51 -0700

"D. D. Brierton" wrote:
> 
> Why are the contents of /var/lib/rpm so enormous? As I understand it,
> this is the location of the rpm databases, listing everything that's
> installed on my machine. Well, I do admittedly have a lot of packages
> installed, but 56MB seems pretty big to me. So, is this to be expected,
> or ought I to be doing something to keep the size of these files in
> check somehow?
> 
> [root@excession /root]# ls -l /var/lib/rpm
> total 57020
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        16384 Aug  5 13:03 conflictsindex.rpm
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     21032960 Aug  5 13:03 fileindex.rpm
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        24576 Aug  5 13:03 groupindex.rpm
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        28672 Aug  5 13:03 nameindex.rpm
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     24338440 Aug  5 13:03 packages.rpm
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        57344 Aug  5 13:03 providesindex.rpm
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root     21123072 Aug  5 13:03 requiredby.rpm
> -rw-r--r--    1 root     root        16384 Aug  5 13:03 triggerindex.rpm
> [root@excession /root]# du /var/lib/rpm
> 56M     /var/lib/rpm

There's a LOT of info in that database for each package.
For instance, try 

% rpm -q -i `rpm -qf /usr/sbin/sendmail`

and then do a

% rpm -q --dump !$

and see how your screen fills up.

Then do a

% rpm -qa | wc

and run the math.

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| e-mail address.  Of course, there isn't REALLY a lumber cartel.    |
| There isn't really a tooth fairy, but whois toothfairy.com works.  |
+----------- D. C. & M. V. Sessions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ----------+

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From: Phillip Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: 05 Aug 2000 22:15:39 +0100

>>>>> "blowfish" == blowfish  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  blowfish> If you try to set up a booth right outside of 10, Downing
  blowfish> Street to sell stolen property. I'm sure Tony will have a
  blowfish> few choiced words with you, and have you escorted away by
  blowfish> Bobbies. ;-)

        Well Tony already did this inside number 10. The racism and 
bigotry he stole from Thatcher, the complete absence of any real
policies from Major. The "third way" rhetoric may not be stolen, but
as he appears to have found up his ass, I am not sure that this is
anything to boast about. 

        Phil

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