Linux-Misc Digest #449, Volume #25 Mon, 14 Aug 00 21:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Problem With /bin/login Behavior ("Mark T. Dame")
Re: Kernel 2.2.17-pre* (Mark Hymers)
parport / kernel message problem (Gary Krupa)
Re: Sony SDT-5000 Tape Drive on Redhat 6.1 (Andrey Vlasov)
A Big Red Button (and a beep) (Kris)
./configue (Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=E9chard?=)
Re: ./configue (Dances With Crows)
Re: Carnivore and Privacy: An Oxymoron? (Martha H Adams)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Web Authoring Tools (Robert Heller)
Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship. (blowfish)
Re: Linux on AMD (Bob Hauck)
Re: CD-ROM mounts to device hda...why? (Bob Hauck)
Re: networking two computers using ppp and serial connections (Bill Unruh)
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:14:32 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > How much you spend on net access? Who cares!?
>
> > freenet is free. Right?
>
> Telephone calls are not. The moment they go unmetered, I'll be jumping at
> it. (Which I will have to pay for, but a hell of a lot less than I currently
> pay).
>
I thought BT has gone unmetered for net access already. No!?
> > It's not how much you have to spend that matters. It's not the case.
>
> What, then, is the case that makes me a freeloader.
>
Freenet. Somebody is funding it, even if you don't have to pay for it.
> >> While you're at it, tell me how much I spent to get this Linux distro.
> >>
> > Who cares?
>
> You seem to, seeing as you keep calling me a freeloader without foundation.
>
> > I paid US$40.00 for my dvd version.
>
> And I paid for mine. Again, how does it make me a freeloader?
>
> >> What point would that be? That you don't know how to make a valid argument?
> >>
> > Only to the madden geek like you.
>
> Geek and proud of it. If you're going to throw insults, pick ones that'll be
> construed as insulting...
>
No. I'm not throwing insult at you. Just pointing out the sad facts.
> > Sure. More geek's talks. Let's face it. Geeks don't know how to communicate to
> > real people.
>
> You're proof of that.
> You are a troll-bot and I claim my 5 pounds.
Me. Geek? No. I never had formal computer/programming trainning. It all started
as a hobby. ;-)
Troll-bot? No, I am the fish being trolled by the fishermen.
Only 5 pounds? That's not much. Blok.
Cheerio, :-)
>
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> | | graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit |
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> | in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
> | Computer Science | can't stand 1 bit of competition. |
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
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From: "Mark T. Dame" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Problem With /bin/login Behavior
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:17:07 -0400
Hello.
I have a RedHat 6.2 system on which I need to change the behavior of
/bin/login for telnet sessions. When you telnet to the box and press
<Enter> at the login: prompt (without entering a username) you get
"Login incorrect". On the console it just gives you another login:
prompt. I need /bin/login to behave the same way for a telnet session
as it does for the console (at least in this regard).
Any suggestions?
TIA.
-m
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Hymers)
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.17-pre*
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:16:45 GMT
>Not sure, but how big is your swap partition.
32MB. That should be enough shouldn't it?
Mark
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From: Gary Krupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: parport / kernel message problem
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.os.linux
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:25:25 GMT
I'm running slackware kernel v. 2.2.9.
Right after I compiled the kernel and modules, and configured the
/etc/conf.modules file with parport, I saw the name of my printer, an
Epson Stylus Color 800, appear after parport1 during bootup after the
modules installed. Of course the printer was turned on at that point.
This is (and has been) my parport configuration:
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
options parport_pc io=0x3bc,0x378 irq=5,7
Mysteriously, the printer's name no longer appears, even though I have
the printer online during bootup. I made no changes to conf.modules
other than to add a sound driver / module on irq 9. What I see now is:
parport1: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [SPP,ECP,ECPEPP,ECPPS2]
parport0: no IEEE-1284 device present.
parport1: Unspecified, Unknown vendor Unknown device
Parallel printer support has been compiled as a module.
The printer prints fine in linux, as well or better than it did before
the change in the bootup message.
What could account for the "unknown vendor Unknown device" message? I
know that the printer is IEEE-1284 compliant. I've already recompiled
the kernel (with the same version), and it didn't resolve the problem.
I'd be grateful for any assistance or suggestions anyone could offer.
Gary Krupa
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From: Andrey Vlasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Sony SDT-5000 Tape Drive on Redhat 6.1
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:59:56 -0700
Hi there,
I do not have tape drive yet but here reference for your SCSI card
http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/dc395/
Andrey
Shyam Govardhan wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I just bought a second-hand Sony SCSI Tape Drive SDT-5000. Has anyone
> got this working on Redhat 6.1. I have got a Tekram DC-315U Ultra
> SCSI adapter.
>
> Please let me know if this tape drive works on Linux, as I have a week
> to return it. Also, what kind of sotware/firware do I need to get this
> drive to work. I could not find this drive on the Sony website. They
> only have the newer drives (SDT-7000 upwards).
>
> Your advise is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Shyam
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From: Kris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A Big Red Button (and a beep)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:19:18 +0100
I have a headless P166 running Debian in the corner that I use as a
NAT/Proxy/mess-about system, and I sometimes forget to shut it down via
my workstation at night, so I have to mess around typing in
root->password->shutdown, and it can take a while if I make a mistake.
So, would it be possible to attach a Big Red Button via the serial port
(or any other port) that shut it down? Changing /etc/inittab so that
ctrl-alt-delete shut it down rather than rebooted seems a bit too easy
:-)
Also, what would be the best place to put a speaker beep so that I knew
I could safely turn off the system? There's only one beep to say that
it's *started* to shut down.
Cheers :-)
Kris
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Kris | ab imo pectore | PGP: 0x34941A9F
F438 005B 9700 E14E 0B8F D3D7 C98E CF45 3494 1A9F
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From: Daniel =?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=E9chard?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ./configue
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:37:43 GMT
I'm trying to install files with tar.gz and I tried to make the=20
./configure I get an error message that tells me can't find X includes
I'm using Open Linux 2.4 (Caldera)
Where can I find the X software
Thank you in advance=20
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: ./configue
Date: 14 Aug 2000 23:48:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:37:43 GMT, Daniel Béchard wrote:
>I'm trying to install files with tar.gz and I tried to make the
>./configure I get an error message that tells me can't find X includes
>I'm using Open Linux 2.4 (Caldera)
>Where can I find the X software
>Thank you in advance
There should be a package on your Caldera CD(s) called
"Xfree86-devel.rpm" or something similar. In SuSE 6.4, it's called
"xdevel.rpm", but it will have an X and a "dev" in it. Find that
package and install it, since that package has the X header files in it.
HTH, bonne chance.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martha H Adams)
Subject: Re: Carnivore and Privacy: An Oxymoron?
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:50:08 GMT
This FBI's "Carnivore" is interesting from privacy and personal
freedom points of view. I wonder if that name was given *just to* get
people's attention, distracting them from what's really going on
hidden back there in shadows and secrecy.
For one thing, what realistic need is there for any of that fancy
programming? This all sounds to me like a runaway bureaucracy at
work, righteous men dedicated to an Orwellian society.
Several years ago the East German government was into spying and
dossiers on its citizens. I suppose this ate up a lot of money, and
who knew who was spying on who? That's all obsolete, now.
Here and now, we have all these businesses saving, sharing, and
analyzing consumer profiles. This is supposed to be OK because
it's commercial not political surveillance.
So all the FBI, BATF, IRS or whoever has to do, if they want to know
about *you* is go to these places and ask, and they get what they want
easier than slipping on wet ice. Then buzz this thru sophisticated
profiling software in some large machine; and there is no privacy
issue because there is *no privacy*.
There's also that "Echelon" system, made to order for spying by
proxy, that has got the Europeans a little upset. And of course,
all that email and usenet stuff, easily read without "Carnivore".
So many rich resources! Can you imagine they don't get used? The
East German government's spy system never had it this good their
best day. So why the need for this so-touted "Carnivore"? And for
the secret stuff we don't hear of?
Cheers -- Martha Adams
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:38:25 +0100
blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> Telephone calls are not. The moment they go unmetered, I'll be jumping at
>> it. (Which I will have to pay for, but a hell of a lot less than I currently
>> pay).
>>
> I thought BT has gone unmetered for net access already. No!?
My ISP isn't BT, it's freenet!
D'UH!
>> > It's not how much you have to spend that matters. It's not the case.
>>
>> What, then, is the case that makes me a freeloader.
>>
> Freenet. Somebody is funding it, even if you don't have to pay for it.
Telephone charges fund it. That's how it works at the moment.
They're working on unmetered, but it's not up and running yet.
>> You are a troll-bot and I claim my 5 pounds.
> Me. Geek? No. I never had formal computer/programming trainning. It all started
> as a hobby. ;-)
I called you a troll-bot (and an inferior one at that), not a geek.
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| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |
|Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
| in | suck is probably the day they start making |
| Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Web Authoring Tools
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:02:22 GMT
Matthew Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:17:57 +1000, wrote :
MD> Hi,
MD>
MD> I want to put my digital photo's on a web page and was trying to find
MD> out what tools are available, I use netscape at the moment.
MD>
MD> I would like to convert all my jpegs to tumbnails that are placed on 1
MD> page which link to1 page per jepg etc.
MD>
MD> Is there any tools that automate this or individual tools that I can
MD> write a script for
ImageMagick contains a program named 'convert'. Here is a simple tclsh
script:
=========================Begin makeicons.tcl=========================
#!/usr/bin/tclsh
global argc argv argv0
if {$argc == 0} {
puts stderr "usage $argv0 imagefiles..."
exit
}
foreach img $argv {
set icon "[file rootname $img]_icon.gif"
exec convert -size 10%x10% $img $icon
puts "Icon for $img is $icon"
puts "[exec identify $img] => [exec identify $icon]"
}
========================End makeicons.tcl===========================
convert and identify are part of the ImageMagick package:
sauron.deepsoft.com% rpm -q ImageMagick
ImageMagick-4.2.3-1
/usr/bin/tclsh is part of the tcl package:
sauron.deepsoft.com% rpm -q tcl
tcl-8.0.3-20
I am running RH 5.2 -- you should get similar results with newer
versions of RedHat or Mandrake or SuSE.
MD>
MD> Thanks
MD>
MD> Matt
MD>
MD>
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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ..
Subject: Re: FWD: Red Hat's CFO abandoning ship.
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:33:52 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Telephone calls are not. The moment they go unmetered, I'll be jumping at
> >> it. (Which I will have to pay for, but a hell of a lot less than I currently
> >> pay).
> >>
> > I thought BT has gone unmetered for net access already. No!?
>
> My ISP isn't BT, it's freenet!
> D'UH!
>
So. You're leeching off a free service. ;-)
> >> > It's not how much you have to spend that matters. It's not the case.
> >>
> >> What, then, is the case that makes me a freeloader.
> >>
> > Freenet. Somebody is funding it, even if you don't have to pay for it.
>
> Telephone charges fund it. That's how it works at the moment.
So now you admitted it. You're leeching off, getting a free ride.
> They're working on unmetered, but it's not up and running yet.
>
I know.
> >> You are a troll-bot and I claim my 5 pounds.
>
> > Me. Geek? No. I never had formal computer/programming trainning. It all started
> > as a hobby. ;-)
>
> I called you a troll-bot (and an inferior one at that), not a geek.
A bot? No. I don't even watch sci-fi movies. Never like those tech stuff.
>
> --
> ______________________________________________________________________________
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |
> |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't |
> | in | suck is probably the day they start making |
> | Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
- Alex / blowfish.- Just an average, whimpy, non-geek American computer user.
(Have Fun with geek's culture:-Version
2.4-pre-release99999-test-1234567.pre-beta5000.)
- If Vi is God's editor. Then, God must have too much free time on his hands,
lives a very dull and unproductive life; so he needs Vi to waste his time.
But Vi was still too fast. So God created EMACS on the 8th day - which takes
Eight Months to load, And Counting Still...
- The UN-GEEK CODE:(?What is a geek?)-#!?+++??++++|$????+++++?????+++!!!!???+++---
geek + vi | ~/emacs ==>ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!.......:P~
newbies + Windoz | C:\LOOKOUT
EXPRESS==>_the_horrors_the_horrrrrrrroOOOOORRRRRRRRRSSSSzzzzz!!! :-|
- My SAS (Sing-A-Song) Fingerprint -v.i007.bond: Doe1(-a deer, a female deer.)
RaY2(- a drop of golden sun.)
Me3(- A name, I call myself.) FAr4(- A long, long way to run.) Sew5(-A needle
pulling thread.)
lA6(-A note to follow sew.) TeA7(-A drink with jam and bread.) That will bring
us back to DOe-oh-oh-oh.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on AMD
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:43:42 GMT
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:29:24 -0700, blowfish
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bob Hauck wrote:
>>
>> >Do you think Linux distro like Redhat really any better than Windoz?
>>
>> Why are you here, instead of one of the advocacy groups where this crap
>> belongs?
>>
>Ouch. A RedHead gets hurt.
I don't use Red Hat, and I'm tired of your trolling.
*PLONK*
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM mounts to device hda...why?
Reply-To: bobh{at}haucks{dot}org
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 00:43:45 GMT
On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:49:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It seems my CD-ROM is mounting to device hda and I'm wondering why.
>Is it because it's a IDE device?
Yes. Master on first controller is /dev/hda. cdu31 is for one of
those weird CD's that run off a sounblaster card if IIRC.
--
-| Bob Hauck
-| To Whom You Are Speaking
-| http://www.haucks.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: networking two computers using ppp and serial connections
Date: 15 Aug 2000 00:47:13 GMT
In <8n9f71$37q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Bismuti) writes:
>I heard you can network two computers by using a serial cable and
>running PPP. Has anyone done this? Can you point me to documentation
>and/or briefly explain the hardware and configuration steps I'll need
>to get it running? How's the performance?
Sure, but it is very slow. Max is about 100Kbd (compared to 10Mbd for
ethernet)
Just run pppd on the one machine into the serial port with the passive
option, and then run pppd on the other ( with no chat script).
The two will hook up and away you go.
(Put the noauth option into each's /etc/ppp/options files).
In this case you probably want to let them negotiate software
compression.
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