Linux-Misc Digest #449, Volume #26 Sun, 3 Dec 00 04:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: network slow in linux, fast in win... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RedHat, Compaq Proliant 4500R, & NCR53C825 EISA (Neil Cherry)
differences between mandrake and redhat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0 (Dances With Crows)
Re: looking for video capture card for linux (C. L. Lewis)
Free ISP for Linux - found? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: IBM graphical characters (Ed Allen)
Re: IBM graphical characters (Dennis J Perkins)
Re: Corel Linux VS Redhat 7 ("William Pelish")
j2sdk1.3 - jdb doesn't work ("mmnnoo")
Re: Netscape 6.0 with SuSE 7.0? ("muzh")
Re: Gnome and KDE (Robert Kiesling)
Re: Netscape 6.0 with SuSE 7.0? (Matt Haley)
Re: Why PostgreSQL is not that popular as MySQL? (Mike Kenney)
Re: printing utilities (fred smith)
Login fail (preprepre)
Re: Login fail (Robert Kiesling)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: network slow in linux, fast in win...
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 19:59:07 GMT
bill davidsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: | Hmm... No... But... :-)
: | Since upgrading all machines on my home lan (4) to the 2.2 kernel
: | series I have problems with a laptop using an DLINK 620 pocket
: | adapter.
: |
: | Very slow (about 10% of what it used to be) with ftp and html.
: |
[snip]
: I would check two things. First, that /proc/interupts shows the
: interupt for the NIC, and second that after running for a while the
: count for that irq has gone up in some relation to N x num_packets. I
: would be fairly secure in saying that one very common cause of this type
: of problem is lost interupts. Check the card with ifconfig and be sure
: it isn't getting a bunch of errors, too.
Bill, thanks a lot for your suggestion. You are exactly right. It seems
like it's in fact loosing interrupts. Quite a few. About 30 to 40 % of them.
However ifconfig shows *no* errors.
So now the questions are; why is this happening and, more important,
what can I do to fix it?
Best Regards,
Friedhelm
--
Microsoft is NOT the answer. Microsoft is the Question.
The answer is: "NO!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Neil Cherry)
Subject: RedHat, Compaq Proliant 4500R, & NCR53C825 EISA
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 03:22:55 GMT
I have a nice Compaq Proliant 4500R (EISA box), 3 PII/133, 128M ram,
1G SCSI disk. I can get RedHat to boot from the floppy and try to
install. But when it comes time to select the SCSI device it can't
find anything! The CDROM is good as it is needed to boot and
initialize the machine the first time you set it up.
So how do I create a RedHat 6.2 driver disk? What driver do I use (I
tried the SYM/NCR53C8xx)? Any suggestions? I've tried the Compaq site
and it doesn't say the 4500R/4500 is supported.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: differences between mandrake and redhat
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 03:42:43 GMT
Is there a site or thread somewhere that thoroughly contrasts redhat
and mandrake?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Frame Buffering and Red Hat 7.0
Date: 3 Dec 2000 03:58:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 2 Dec 2000 20:18:28 -0600, nope staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>
>The framebuffer HOWTO I looked at notes ATI cards are a problem because the
>developer(s) didn't have ready access to them. Ergo, that's at least a good
>reason from the start to know there should be consideration for keeping the
>kernel hooks in place for some minimal "obsolete" video/X functions.
>
>I couldn't agree more, I have an ATI AllInWonderPro and fortunatly
>Mandrake and redhat 6.2 support it but only barely, for ever I feel the
>biggest pain in the ass with xserver setups is the lack of a bare bones
>generic 16 color driver that fits all similar to the way windows 98
>sets up, it will run any card in 16 color mode and at least get you to
>your desktop for further tweaks.
Were you looking for the XVGA_16 X-server, perhaps? That sucker should
work with every card that is backwards-combatible with the old standard
VGA cards. XF86Setup and SaX use that particular server for graphical
setup routines. A problem is that some SiS and other cards export some
broken or nonstandard interface that claims to be VGA but isn't. Have
you tried XFree86 4.0.1? Or looked at http://xfree86.org/ for info on
your card?
>I have heard all the floating a point non-sequitures to the fondationless
>reasons from the nix lovers, but non of them wash, a bare 16 color desktop
>in any video card would put linux on a lot more machines then it is now.
Parse Error: first sentence incoherent. Before you say "None of [the
reasons why any card can't run VGA-16] wash," tell me this: Have you
ever contributed any code to an X-server? Have you even looked at the
code for various X-servers? Have you dealt with the N+1 standards (or
lack thereof) among a random sample of 20 video cards? It's a lot
harder than writing "hello world" . Have you sent in bug reports to the
XFree86 team/your distro manufacturer for the particular problems you've
been having? How are developers going to fix things if they don't know
what's wrong?
Anyway, if you could get "only" 4-bit color at 640x480, Joe Desktop User
would still hate it. And a machine that's being used primarily as a
file/web/ print/database server doesn't need an X-server running. And
"xf86config" is still the best tool for the job sometimes. HTH,
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
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=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: C. L. Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: looking for video capture card for linux
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 03:46:16 GMT
Like Adam expressed in the other post, I've got a Hauppage WinTVGo card
that I get better single frame capture with under Linux than I do under
Windows. It's the only one I have any experience with. I don't know at
the 24fps rate you need. Sound quality and separation is not quite as
good as under Win. Linux gRadio and Ktuner works pretty good with it
also. KWinTv, is my choice of Applications, if you get the latest tar
ball and build it yurself. For my purposes, there is a small error in
the makefile in the Icons folder that I had to trim out to get it to
build and that is the miniicon .xpm install path and routine.
My Win application WinTV2000 will give me full screen display on a
1024x768 display whereas under Linux I'm only able to get it up to a
640x480 box or capture on a 1280x1024 display, but at 24bpp it's
stunning.
I highly suggest going to one of the later 2.4.0-test kernels to try it.
I'm finding some glitchiness with the Mdk 2.2.17-21 drivers, which may
be due to configuration on my part.
Charles
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i'm looking for a good video card with an onboard tv tuner and that
can
> do decent video capture. (video capture must be preferably done at
> 352x288 or higher resolution captured at at least 24fps).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Free ISP for Linux - found?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 04:03:15 GMT
www.beebware.com might support linux, since they have a general sign-up
support area for "other operating systems". Hope this helps some people.
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Subject: Re: IBM graphical characters
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 05:58:59 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Dennis J Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm trying to port a program from SCO to Linux. The program uses the
>extended character set to draw boxes. How can I do this in Linux? Or
>maybe the correct question is, which terminfo font should I use?
>
You may be looking for the "alternate character set" which is built
in to most of the terminal emulations available on Linux.
Try this:
tput smacs;echo j.k.l.m.n.o.p.q.r.s.t.u;tput rmacs
To see what I mean.
It produces the linedraw characters for me.
--
"Whether you think their witnesses are credible or non-credible;
they've admitted monopoly power, they've admitted raising prices to hurt
consumers, they've admitted depriving consumers of choice...
-DAVID BOIES, US Department of Justice
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From: Dennis J Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM graphical characters
Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 23:29:49 -0700
Thanks. Those are some of the characters I need. Now I need to find the C
function that does the same thing.
Ed Allen wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Dennis J Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I'm trying to port a program from SCO to Linux. The program uses the
> >extended character set to draw boxes. How can I do this in Linux? Or
> >maybe the correct question is, which terminfo font should I use?
> >
> You may be looking for the "alternate character set" which is built
> in to most of the terminal emulations available on Linux.
>
> Try this:
>
> tput smacs;echo j.k.l.m.n.o.p.q.r.s.t.u;tput rmacs
>
> To see what I mean.
>
> It produces the linedraw characters for me.
>
> --
> "Whether you think their witnesses are credible or non-credible;
> they've admitted monopoly power, they've admitted raising prices to hurt
> consumers, they've admitted depriving consumers of choice...
> -DAVID BOIES, US Department of Justice
--
Dennis
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From: "William Pelish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Corel Linux VS Redhat 7
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 01:19:25 -0500
Thanks to all of you for your help. However the only answers I ahve gotten
are about RH and nothing on Corel except for one guy and he has told me more
than a bookful on the topic.Which should help seeing how Corel is where I
went to when i made my choice.
Will
"Sinner from the Prairy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> William Pelish wrote:
>
> > Thanks
> > I have found in what little use I have had with Corel that there is
little
> > or almost no bugs in the OS. However Redhat has a few too many I don't
wish
> > to deal with. I am looking for something I can understand and grasp
easy. So
> > far this one for me seems to work however everything is expendable.
>
> Then try Mandrake Linux 7.2. Easy to install, manage upgrade.... based
> on RedHat distribution plus enhancements. It's particulary good the
> multilanguage support. And it's not as buggy aas RedHat 7.0
>
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com
>
>
> Salut,
> Sinner
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From: "mmnnoo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: j2sdk1.3 - jdb doesn't work
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 06:32:41 GMT
I can't get jdb from j2sdk1.3 to work at all. Here is a source file:
public class Hi
{
public static void main(String[] args)
{
System.out.println("hi");
}
}
I compile it:
javac -g Hi.java
Then try to debug it. After typing run, it says VM Started: then sits there
rather than running the program. If I then type a command such as
threads it just sits there until I ^C it. (By the way, the reason it
says "security properties not found" etc is because I uninstalled, then
reinstalled the package to see it it would work, but the second time
it didn't reinstall the configuration files such as /etc/j2sdk1.3/jvm.cfg,
and apparently something security related. But jdb didn't work
even after the first install, without the warning)
jdb Hi
security properties not found. using defaults.
Initializing jdb...
> run
run Hi
>
VM Started:
>
> run
VM already running. Use 'cont' to continue after events.
> cont
Nothing suspended.
>
> threads
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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 6.0 with SuSE 7.0?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 19:42:27 +1300
I tried Netscape6 on Suse7 -- Slow as molasses, and prone to freezing. I
then tried Mozilla M18 -- download size one third, and it runs fast and
without freezing, and with, as far as I can see, all the (?)functionality
of Netscape6.
Recently, the keys of [EMAIL PROTECTED] 's computer
randomly danced and produced
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
> * Mordak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi all, Has anyone tried Netscape 6.0 with SuSE 7.0 or any other flavor
>> of *nix yet? If so how was the setup and are there any problem or
>> immediate bugs showing their ugly heads? Thanks, Mordak
>
> Yep - tried it, then went to mozilla. Runs fine.
>
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Never trust a man in a suit
cll
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Subject: Re: Gnome and KDE
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 07:08:19 GMT
"Garry Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Robert Kiesling"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I don't think there's a much easier-to-understand conceptual model
> > around than client/server.
>
> Maybe. But I'm not sure that the way X is implemented is that easy for
> a newcomer to understand.
>
> > I'd rather take the trouble to get it right the first time. I hate
> > having people come back around and claim I mislead them.
>
> In almost 20 years of giving people models that are geared to what I
> perceive as their level of skill/knowledge, I can't recall ever being
> told that I misled someone. Maybe I'm just lucky, or maybe it's just
> that they've avoided me ever since... :o)
> Anyway, each to his own.
I think I actually just got a bad situation, so to speak.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Haley)
Subject: Re: Netscape 6.0 with SuSE 7.0?
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 07:14:03 -0000
On Sun, 03 Dec 2000 19:42:27 +1300, muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I tried Netscape6 on Suse7 -- Slow as molasses, and prone to freezing. I
>then tried Mozilla M18 -- download size one third, and it runs fast and
>without freezing, and with, as far as I can see, all the (?)functionality
>of Netscape6.
It's gets better when you download a nightly build.
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From: Mike Kenney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.databases.postgresql.general,comp.databases.postgresql.committers
Subject: Re: Why PostgreSQL is not that popular as MySQL?
Date: 03 Dec 2000 00:04:11 -0800
Raymond Chui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am just start look at PostgreSQL for our Redhat Linux.
> I am wonder why most of people choose MySQL in Linux
> world rather than PostgreSQL? PostgreSQL has 15 years
> history (I never know that before) which is much longer
> than MySQL. Also PostgreSQL supports a lot of things
> which MySQL has not support yet.
This is just my personal opinion (of course). Several years back when folks
were starting to use SQL databases as the back end for web sites on Linux,
PostgreSQL was a bit of a dog -- slow and prone to memory leaks. MySQL on
the other hand was very fast and although it lacked many of the features of
PostgreSQL it was more than adequate for many web site needs. It was in the
right place at the right time.
Things seemed to have changed now, PostgreSQL has improved tremendously and
on some benchmarks is considerably faster than MySQL ...
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printing utilities
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 02:50:40 GMT
T. Kalaris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In the DOS world I used to use a print utility called 4print (or 4prnt?)
: which would print an ASCII file sideways on a sheet of paper with two pages
: of text side-by-side. The printer I used was an HP LaserJet. Anyway, does
: such a utility exist in the Linux/unix world?
: Thanks in advance.
You don't say which Linux distro you're using,... on RH, their
"printtool" has options for 1-up, 2-up, 4-up or 8-up. I think it
actually uses 'mpage' to do that.
Fred
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From: preprepre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Login fail
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 08:30:08 -0000
When i start the terminal in xwindows and tried to log into root or my
current account, it doesn't work. When i try to log into root, i get the
error telling me that my password is incorrect. When i try to log into my
current account, i get the error telling me that the account has expired.
But when i use the xwindow login(the one u get when u type startx), i
could log into both root and my account. I'm just starting linux with
mandrake 7.2 so i dunno whats wrong. Can someone help me?
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Subject: Re: Login fail
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2000 08:42:58 GMT
preprepre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When i start the terminal in xwindows and tried to log into root or my
> current account, it doesn't work. When i try to log into root, i get the
> error telling me that my password is incorrect. When i try to log into my
> current account, i get the error telling me that the account has expired.
> But when i use the xwindow login(the one u get when u type startx), i
> could log into both root and my account. I'm just starting linux with
> mandrake 7.2 so i dunno whats wrong. Can someone help me?
It's intentional. The terminal has to be listed in /etc/securetty in
order to allow log-in as root. Xterms use pty's, so they aren't.
Can't tell you about the expired account. You might have to
create a new one, but since you have root privileges, that's
no problem.
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