Linux-Misc Digest #524, Volume #25 Tue, 22 Aug 00 12:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: My sound blaster live doesn't work! (mandrake 7.1) (Ben Ritchie)
Re: FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died) (J T)
Re: need serious help here... X hates me! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux.... (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Copying user information ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: need serious help here... X hates me! (Scott Morgan)
Re: creating mpeg/animated gif (or other format...) (Stephen Hui)
Re: backup and restore with cpio?? (Douglas Nichols)
Re: backup and restore with cpio?? (Douglas Nichols)
Re: XWindow Managers (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: marking 'bad' sectors? (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
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From: Ben Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: My sound blaster live doesn't work! (mandrake 7.1)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:56:55 +0100
ISTR that Mdk7.1 comes with ALSA, which includes drivers for your card. If
the Mdk installer has been really smart then it may be installed already.
Try
cat /proc/asound/cards
to see if a module for your card has been loaded. If /proc/asound/ doesn't
exist, then ALSA isn't (correctly) installed. Install it off the CD and
try again. Instructions for getting it working can be found at
http://www.alsa-project.org/
If it is installed, you may still not get any sound because ALSA mutes the
sound by default. You'll need to run a mixer of some sort (try gmix or
the kde sound mixer) to unmute it. Again, see the ALSA website for more.
Ben.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm using Mandrake 7.1, it recognizes my Sound Blaster Live Value sound
> card, but I can't figure out how to make it work. Any general
> suggestions? Let me know if you need more information.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
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From: J T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.music.filk,alt.2600,rec.humor
Subject: Re: FYA - Parody: Microsoft Pie (The Day the Servers Died)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:37:34 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Love it! :)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Microsoft Pie - To the tune of "American Pie" by Don McClean
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Rev. History
> V1.0 - 05/2000 - Written by "Cujo The Wonder Puppy"
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> A long, long time ago...
> I can still remember
> How my system used to run for months
> And I knew when I went home at night
> The enterprise would be alright
> And, the users, they'd be happy for a while.
>
> But February made me shiver
> With every paper I'd deliver.
> Bad news on the doorstep;
> I couldn't take one more step.
>
> I can't remember if I cried
> When I read about Win NT "5", (1)
> But management made me take the ride
> The day the servers died.
>
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT(2) guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Did you read the HCL(3)
> And do you have faith in Gates above...
> If press releases tell you so?
> Do you believe in beta code,
> Can patches save your mortal soul,
> And can you afford to spend two hours on hold?
>
> Well, I know the boss loves Microsoft
> Cause he's buying up a pile of stock
> But you know you'd love to say
> just Where Bill should go today.
>
> I was a former Unix Sys Admin
> With an MCSE(4) and an NT pin
> I had no clue how deep I was in
> The day the servers died.
>
> I started singin',
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Now for ten years we've been on our own
> The desktop's bloated, the command line gone
> But that's not how it used to be.
> The box was fast and the OS(5) lean
> No 3d saver on the console screen
> Response times in the millisecond range
>
> Oh, but while IT was looking down,
> The VP(6) took their techie crown.
> FT(7) went away
> And PC's stole the day
> What bosses read in PC Week(8)
> Became the gospel for IT
> and Windows was the strategy
> the day the servers died
>
> We were singing,
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Helter Skelter in the summer swelter.
> NORAD(9) put NT in the fallout shelters
> Eight miles high and falling fast.
> A BSOD(10) dumped a silo's core
> Sent fifty missiles through China's door
> And launched another world war
> When one more server died
>
> The courts(11) were after Bill and crew
> and Unix, once again, was cool
> We all got up to dance,
> Oh, but we never got the chance!
> `Cause Linux tried to take the field;
> But Microsoft refused to yield.
> Do you recall what was revealed
> The day the servers died?
>
> We started singing,
> "bye-bye" to our system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> Oh, and there we were all in one hall,
> Following 2000's siren call
> With no time left to start again.
> So come on: Bill be vague and Bill be Slick!
> Come show us what makes 2K tick
> Cause NT4 is crashing as you speak.
>
> Oh, and as I watched Bill on the stage
> My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
> No angel born in hell
> Could break that Satan's spell.
> They applauded four ohs uptime week(12)
> and cheered at 2k's 3 month peak
> "My Sun's (13) been up since '93"
> but no one heard me cry
>
> As the profits climbed high into the night
> The Redmond campus grew beyond sight
> I saw Bill laughing with delight
> The day the Servers died
>
> He was singing,
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> (14)
> I met a girl who wrote for Bill
> And I asked if she had had her fill,
> But she just smiled and turned away.
> 'cause Windows bought her house, you see
> The code's unstable(15), but it's not free
> It's IT job security
> Whenever servers die
>
> And in the streets the users screamed,
> The admins cried, and managers dreamed.
> But not a word was spoken;
> The systems all were broken.
> And the three men who had heard the call
> Raymond, Stallman and Torvalds(16)
> They'd tried to save us from the fall
> The day the servers died.
>
> But did we listen?
>
> Say bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> They were singing,
> bye-bye to your system uptime
> Installed NT on the servers,
> Now the servers are fried
> And them IT guys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
> Singin', "Gotta love that paid overtime..."
> Gonna buy a new house with mine...
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft Pie - Copyright (C) 2000 "Cujo The Wonder Puppy"
> (http://www.psychokitty.com/~cujo)
> This parody is free; you may redistribute it and/or modify it as long
> as this copyright notice remains intact and you agree to abide by the
> terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free
> Software Foundation. (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html);
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> (1) Before it was called Windows 2000, the media referred to the next
> release as Windows NT 5.0
>
> (2) Information Technology
>
> (3) Hardware Compatibility List - A list of hardware that doesn't
> instantly burst into flames when used with Microsoft products. Based on
> comments and presentation materials from the Windows 2000 launch, this
> means that if you're lucky, it'll run for a week without hanging up or
> requiring a reboot under NT 4.0 or 3 months in a "clean room" scenario
> under Win2K.
>
> (4) Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer - A designation that certifies
> that you either know your way around Microsoft products or that you
> bought a set of Exam Cram guides and you're good at memory work.
> Neither of which actually has anything to do with engineering.
>
> (5) Operating system - In the "good old days", the core software which
> provided a set of tools and interfaces to the hardware. The OS would
> consume a fraction of the system resources and provide the bare
> necessities required for the applications to have a common interface to
> the hardware. Now it refers to a huge pile of unrelated applications
> tied together seemingly at random to consume the greatest possible
> percentage of memory and CPU while still providing the false hope of
> usability.
>
> (6) Vice President. ie: any senior manager that shouldn't be making
> technology decisions, but feels empowered to do so.
>
> (7) Fault Tolerant (system). A term that no longer has any meaning
> outside of mainframes and some clustered environments. A system with
> sufficient redundancy and fail-over capabilities that it can continue
> running uninterrupted even when a major component fails. There is no
> such thing as a FT system running Windows. There are "High
> availability" (HA) Windows configurations, but this just means that if
> one node dies, you lose your session and pick up again on another node.
> (ie: Who cares if one of the twins dies? We've got a backup.) In an FT
> environment, you wouldn't even notice the failure.
>
> (8) "PC Week" is meant to encompass the entire gamut of publications
> that managers somehow get their hands on during long business trips.
> (search for "Management by In-Flight Magazine") PC Week is not, in and
> of itself, a bad thing. It's just that these magazines dumb down the
> technology far enough that managers believe themselves to be computer
> literate and subsequently start making technology decisions without
> understanding (or even caring about) the implications.
>
> (9) North AmeRican Air Defence. NORAD isn't actually stupid enough to
> trust Windows with anything beyond a game of Minesweeper or Solitaire.
> This verse is just poetic license
>
> (10) Blue Screen Of Death - The blue screen that indicates that Windows
> has crashed. I've actually seen monitors on servers with the page fault
> message burned into them (since the screen saver cuts in during normal
> operations, but a Page Fault stays on-screen until reboot.)
>
> (11) The US Department Of Justice declared Microsoft a Monopoly (no
> kidding, Sherlock....you could have asked anyone in IT and you would
> have found that out in a matter of minutes)
>
> (12) This is not an exaggeration. At the Windows 2000 launch in Feb
> 2000, the audience actually applauded when Gates indicated the Windows
> NT 4.0 ran (on average) for a week without a reboot. If IBM told
> companies that they'd have to reboot their 370's every week, there'd be
> hell to pay.
>
> (13) It was actually a Pyramid, but Sun fit the cadence better. I've
> had NCRs SUNs and AT&T 3B2 systems that have run literally for years
> without ever *requiring* a reboot (excluding administrative reboots for
> kernel tuning or to install new hardware)
>
> (14) Yeah...I know it doesn't jive with the original song, but I wrote
> it, liked it and then realized that it was the wrong verse. Tough. If
> you don't like it, you're entitled to double your money back.
>
> (15) See #12.
>
> (16) I originally had Kernigan, Ritchie and Torvalds. But since the
> Open Source movement and not Unix per se, is really the nail in
> Microsoft's casket, I thought that I'd update it.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: need serious help here... X hates me!
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:15:08 GMT
Howdy:
For X, I've used that SiS AGP card without the symptoms you mention, so
I don't think it's an incompatibility with the card. Sounds icky . . .
For the RTL8029, I've used those too and you can use the ne2k driver for
the 8029's. The 8139's have their own driver which you cannot use for
the 8029.
BTW, RedHat automatically chose the ne2k module for my rtl8029. No
manual intervention there . . .
Aaron
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Morgan) wrote:
> i have an SiS 6326 AGP card that doesnt seem to like xfree86 on redhat
> 6.1 when i start it up, it just gives me a black background ... it can
> show the redhat logo if i start with XDM, but i only get text fields
> if the cursor is active in them, and i only get buttons if i click on
> it... AGP2x is disabled, everything else works fine, but i cant for
> the life of me, get X to work :'(
>
> i also have an RTL 8029(as) as well as an ne2k(?) isa card (basically
> two ne2k clones, but one is isa and one is PCI) can i just make a
> copy of the module?
> i need someone to walk me through this... ICQ 18470844, or jakque51 on
> AIM...
>
> anyone?
> please?
>
> i will post my cfg's when i reboot to linux... thanks in advance!
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FYI: Applix vs. StarOffice vs. WP8 for Linux....
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:26:01 -0400
Arthur Sowers wrote (in part):
> FYI, I'm a very newbie newbie, but have been dabbling with Linux since
> Summer of '99 (see footnote 1, below on experience summary). I got into
> Linux because I was disgusted with Win9X, by the way.
>
> Mainly I need a wordprocessor and a spreadsheet (something like Excel, if
> possible) and I need that to get work done. The OS and tinkering with it
> is going to be a long, drawn out hobby for me.
>
> [snip]
> I installed SO and WP on several Linux boxes, and Applix on both a 5.2 and
> a 6.2 box.
>
> The Applix install had some glitches. But it launches very fast and exits
> very fast. HOWEVER, I had a bunch of windows open, then closed them before
> exiting the whole ap and shortly afterwards noticed in the terminal window
> that I used to launch the ap a series of warnings regarding "unexpectedly
> destroyed windows" AND a 1.5 MB "core" file in my root directory with a
> buch of gibberish in it. "core" files suggest that something went wrong
> somewhere and that bothered me. I do not see an uninstaller for Applix.
Applix 5.0 installs itself from a bunch of .rpm's. So if you knew their
names, you could rpm -e them.
To find out their names, I suggest you run rpm -qa | grep applix
On my system, when I do that, I get:
applix-bin-office-base-5.00-1315
applix-bin-spell-base-5.00-1315
applix-bin-rt-base-5.00-1315
applix-bin-xpdf-base-5.00-1315
applix-bin-applixware-base-5.00-1315
applix-bin-sm-base-5.00-1315
applix-eng-applixware-rsrc-5.00-1315
applix-bin-ttfonts-base-5.00-1315
applix-bin-wp-base-5.00-1315
applix-bin-filters-base-5.00-1315
applix-eng-gr-rsrc-5.00-1315
applix-bin-ss-base-5.00-1315
applix-eng-wp-rsrc-5.00-1315
applix-eng-sm-rsrc-5.00-1315
applix-bin-gr-base-5.00-1315
applix-eng-rt-rsrc-5.00-1315
applix-eng-ss-rsrc-5.00-1315
applix-eng-gr-help-5.00-1315
applix-eng-sm-help-5.00-1315
applix-eng-wp-help-5.00-1315
applix-bin-clipart-base-5.00-1315
applix-eng-ss-help-5.00-1315
> Applix required an upgrade or override of some glibic libraries. I chose
> the override route.
I do not recall, but I think I picked the upgrade.
> Its a gtk+ application, whatever that means but it
> worried me a little. A launches by typing "applix" at the prompt. The
> manuals for Applix are not too bad, but are certainly not thick. They
> show, in the "install" booklet, a long list of fixed bugs from ver 4.0,
> which is nice. But there is almost nothing there on "trouble-shooting" or
> explaining a few things on options & routes of installing the ap.
There is a huge amount of on-line documentation if you launch applix and
press the "Office" icon at the left of the toolbar. They have a Welcome suite
which may be helpful, a bunch of tutorials, and some sample macro stuff. They
have a whole section on "getting help" both on your own machine and
elsewhere. And more.
> [snip]
I have not gotten any of the problems to which you refer.
The only problem I have is that I cannot import a .tsv file directly from
Netscape as I could do with Applixware 4.4.1 (or whatever the previous
version was). I can save it to disk and then import it, but that is a pain.
This is a bug that they are presumably working on.
> --
> Jean-David Beyer .~.
> Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
> Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
> Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Copying user information
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:20:38 GMT
Hi Linux folks,
I have a linux file server running Samba for about 60 people in my
company. It's used quite heavily, and performs flawlessly with hardware
RAID-5. I perform nightly backups to tape, and overall it's been quite
stable.
However, as part of a disaster recovery plan, I'd like to be able to
copy my user definitions to be able to restore to another machine
without making everybody reset their password. I tried copying a few
sample users from /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow to another machine, but
that didn't work.
I guess what I want is: If I restore the whole thing to another box, I
want to restore the groups, users, and passwords as well. Is there any
way to do this?
Aaron
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Morgan)
Subject: Re: need serious help here... X hates me!
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:31:54 GMT
>Howdy:
>
>For X, I've used that SiS AGP card without the symptoms you mention, so
>I don't think it's an incompatibility with the card. Sounds icky . . .
I think it could be a fuckup in my bios, cuz i had to play with em to
get it to work before, but i dont remember changing anythin since then
...
>
>For the RTL8029, I've used those too and you can use the ne2k driver for
>the 8029's. The 8139's have their own driver which you cannot use for
>the 8029.
>
>BTW, RedHat automatically chose the ne2k module for my rtl8029. No
>manual intervention there . . .
well, i have one PCI, and one ISA (supposedly pnp) and it found the
PCI no problem :o)
what im askin is how i can have them both using the ne2k driver at the
same time (for my firewall)
>Aaron
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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: creating mpeg/animated gif (or other format...)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:30:17 -0500
Ben Ritchie wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> I would like to create a short movie sequence of some data, currently
> stored as a number of 600x600 arrays but which can trivially be dumped
> to disk as a sequence of static images (GIF, JPG or most other common
> formats). What would be the simplest way to turn this into an
> animation? I'm not really bothered about the format - mpeg and animated
> GIF are the two that spring to mind, but as long as it can be replayed
> with generally available software (i.e. nothing too obscure) under Linux
> and Solaris I don't really care. Ideally this would be done internally,
> but as the code is Fortran 77 I rather doubt suitable software is
> available.
>
> FWIW, I'm running Mandrake 7.0.
>
> Ideas welcome. Many thanks,
>
> Ben.
You can make animated GIFs with GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/ if you don't
already have it). There is a GIMP Animation tool that is supposed to
make it easier to created animated GIFs, but I can't remember where I
saw it (could be on the GIMP site).
Anyway, here's a crash course in GIMP animations. This is using the
regular GIMP program (not the animator).
1. Open a new image of the correct size.
2. Paste the first frame into the image. Go ahead and "Anchor" the
selection. This will become the background layer.
3. Paste the next frame into the image.
4. Make the selection a new layer (in GIMP 1.0.2, open the "Layers &
Channels" dialog, right-click on the "Floating Selection" and click "New
Layer").
5. Repeat #3 and #4 for each remaining frame.
6. Make sure that the animation is using an indexed palette (in GIMP
1.0.2, right-click on the image, Image -> Indexed, then select the
palette you want to use).
7. When you save the animated GIF, you can set the animation options
(delay between frames, frame display policy, etc).
8. Load the GIF into an image viewer that supports animated GIFs (a Web
browser works very well), and you should be done.
If I find the URL for the GIMP animation tool, I'll be sure to post
again.
Hope this helps. :o)
Stephen.
--
Stephen Hui, ARL:UT, Austin, Texas
Computer Terms: Programmer - A red-eyed, mumbling mammal
capable of conversing with inanimate objects.
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From: Douglas Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: backup and restore with cpio??
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:58:08 -0700
Exactly! Thank you very much!
dn
ljb wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I am getting a truncating inode number when I try to back up some file
> >systems and cannot seem to restore any files. I suspect that it is not
> >backing up the files for what ever reason, can someone give me some
> >insight into this?
> >
> >cpio: .: truncating inode number
> >cpio: log: truncating inode number
> >cpio: templates: truncating inode number
> >cpio: queued: truncating inode number
> >4408 blocks
> >..
>
> Generally with cpio you get rid of the "truncating inode" message
> by using a different format, like "-H ustar" (which makes tar-format
> archives). The default format only supports 16-bit inode numbers
> which are too small for most disk filesystems.
>
> I don't know if this is causing your restore failures, though.
--
Cheers, dn
Douglas Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===============================================================
National Wilms Tumor Study Group 206.667.4283
Seattle, WA
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From: Douglas Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: backup and restore with cpio??
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:58:45 -0700
Thank you very much!
exactly the problem!
dn
Michael Faurot wrote:
> Douglas Nichols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I am getting a truncating inode number when I try to back up some file
> : systems and cannot seem to restore any files. I suspect that it is not
> : backing up the files for what ever reason, can someone give me some
> : insight into this?
>
> Try using the option "-H newc". From cpio(1):
>
> newc The new (SVR4) portable format, which supports
> file systems having more than 65536 i-nodes.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Michael | mfaurot | There's no real need to do housework -- after four
> Faurot | atww.net | years it doesn't get any worse.
--
Cheers, dn
Douglas Nichols [EMAIL PROTECTED]
===============================================================
National Wilms Tumor Study Group 206.667.4283
Seattle, WA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: XWindow Managers
Date: 22 Aug 2000 15:32:00 GMT
Gero H. Marten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ What is a "desktop switching tool"? Never heard of it. I use SuSE 6.3
[ and do all configuration with my editor.
It's one of those menu items to help those former Micro$oft users make
the move gradually to Linux, but with a half-baked implementation a user
such as root can get lost
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: marking 'bad' sectors?
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:42:47 -0400
Quentin Christensen wrote (in part):
> I'm planning to get a new drive very soon. Was tossing up getting one of those
> nice new super-fast SCSI ones - am I going to have trouble getting support for
> these under linux?
I have a box with 2 Quantum Atlas 10K 9.1 GByte 10,000 rpm hard drives on a
LSI LOGIC Symbios SYM8951U Ultra-2 SCSI controller. I do not know about support,
since I never needed any. I bought the whole box from VA Linux Systems, and that
stuff was already in it, along with their tuned version of Red Hat Linux 6.0. I
presently am running the 2.2.14-5.0.14csmp kernel in it. (I reloaded the OS as
soon as I determined the machine was working, because I wanted to change the
partitions, including the / partition, all around, and a re-install seemed the
easiest way. Took about 15 minutes, which was way faster than installing the same
release on my old machine (which runs the 2.2.16-3 kernel, since it has only one
CPU). Takes about an hour to do an install on that machine.)
One nice thing about such a fast system (2 550 MHz Pentium IIIs) is that Netscape
comes up in 1.5 seconds. On my old box with Western Digital Caviar hard drives and
a P166, it takes 15 to 20 seconds for Netscape to come up.
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If XWin hang, how to kill it
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:47:37 -0400
Staffan Emren wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer-valinux wrote:
> >
> > Doug wrote:
> >
> > > "Marcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > I am using Redhat 6.2.
> > > > If my XWindows hang, but I am sure that other service are still running.
> > > >
> > > > So I don't want to re-boot my linux.
> > > >
> > > > How can I stop the XWindows and start again ?
> > > > Also, if I just have 1 linux in the network, is it possible ?
> > > >
> > > The good ol' <Ctrl><Alt><BackSpace> usually works.
> > >
> > > Doug
> >
> > But not always. Sometimes it hangs so bad that <Ctrl><Alt><BackSpace> does
> > nothing. If you are lucky, <Ctrl><Alt><F[1-6]> work. But they usually do not
> > under these conditions. I had it just lock up completely with a 4-hour job
> > running in the background. Luckily the CpuMem applet was running OK, so I
> > could tell when the background job was done. I then gave up and pressed the
> > panic button. This is a very rare problem. On two machines one of which I
> > have been running since early 1998, and the other since near the beginning
> > of this year, this has happened exactly once on each machine.
> >
>
> I've experienced this a few times (I suspect vmware or netscape to mess
> things up), and I've managed to telnet into the machine (yes, it works
> from a windows box as well, even though the windows telnet client
> sucks), and either kill a number of processes, or restart the machine in
> a clean manner, with proper unmounting of all partitions etc.
>
> Staffan Emren
It is not VMware on my machine. It is true that in each case where X locked up
completely, I had been running Netscape and was having problems with it.
I forgot about telnetting in from another machine. As it happens, you cannot
telnet into my machines, but you can with ssh, and furthermore, I have another
machine about two meters away from this one and they are linked together with 100
Megabit ethernet, so I could try that if it happens again. I hope I remember.
Then maybe I could go over a month between reboots... . Linux is always better
than the 3 reboots per week I get with Windows 95.
--
Jean-David Beyer .~.
Shrewsbury, New Jersey /V\
Registered Linux User 85642. /( )\
Registered Machine 73926. ^^-^^
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