Linux-Misc Digest #605, Volume #25 Tue, 29 Aug 00 03:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Re: 2 "new" cdroms under Win98 (noodlez)
Re: Finding files ("David Emmett")
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
EVENT: Linux Users' Group of Davis, September 5 - More Perl (William Kendrick)
Re: Filtering spam with procmail (Koos Pol)
Re: re-initialize mouse while X is running? (Jeff Davis)
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:09:42 -0700
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:CHGq5.21149$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Suppose the hard disk crashes. I can buy another, and assuming I can lay
my
> hands on all my CDs, I can rebuild my machine yet again (losing only my
> unqiue work, if I failed to transfer it too to some external storage).
And
> I supply all the answers to all the decision points yet one more time.
Are you in the habit of discarding you installation media when you may still
need it in the future?
Once you have everything installed the way you want it just make a backup
copy of the installation and you are all set. Under unix we already have a
couple of very complex and capable programs that can take care of the
situation that you have painted here. They can work on a local host or with
the assistance of a couple of other very complex programs they can work
across the network even with multiple hosts on opposite sides of the planet
from each other. They can backup any filesystem and any storage device, not
just the harddrive. They can be used on non-unix hosts by using a floppy
based mini-unix installations. What are these two programs? They are "cat"
and "dd". So do you really think preventing repeated reinstallations is so
complex?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (noodlez)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2 "new" cdroms under Win98
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 02:45:09 GMT
i'm going with Glitch on this one...
don't cross post to so many damn newsgroups!! it's a waste of
bandwidth and energy for all these ppl to reply to ONE question.
go into linux and hit 'fdisk /dev/hda'
hit 'p' to print the parititon layout. look at it: which partitions
are really Linux (ext2fs) and which are really Windows (FAT32)?
use the 't' command to change the label. i.e. if hda5 is your linux
partition and it's marked as FAT32, hit 't', '5', 'b' ('b' is the
letter for 'WIN95 FAT32')
other than that, post to a win98 newsgroup, as windows, not linux, is
fucking up!
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 07:41:25 -0400, Gabriel Gagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I just buy a new system.. And I install Linux on it
>(distribution Gentus (RedHat 6.2)).
>
>My system:
>
>CPU: AMD 800MHz
>Motherboard: ABIT KA7-100
>RAM: 128M
>HD: Matrox 20G, ATA-100
> Partitions (created with Partition Magic 4):
> 7G: Fat32 with Win98 Second Edition Primary
>
>Extended
> 2G: Fat32
>Logical
> 9G: Linux ext2 mount as "/" Logical
>
> 2G: Linux ext2 mount as "/home" Logical
> 257M: Linux Swap
>Logical
>Graphic Card: Matrox G400 Max
>CDRW: Plextor 12x/10x/32x
>DVD: PC-DVD Encore 12x with Dxr3 (Creative Labs)
>
>My problem:
>
>Under Win98, in Explorer Windows, I have two more visible CDROMs, that I
>should not see.
>
>Before the installation:
>
>Visible under Win98:
>
>C:\ -> Win98 7G
>D:\ -> Fat32 2G
>E:\ -> Fat32 will be "/" under Linux 9G
>F:\ -> Fat32 will be "/home" under Linux 2G
>G:\ -> Fat32 will be "swap" under Linux 257M
>H:\ -> CDRW Plextor 12x/10x/32x
>I:\ -> DVD
>
>
>After the installation:
>
>Visible under Win98:
>
>C:\ -> Win98 7G
>D:\ -> Fat32 2G
>E:\ -> New CDROM
>F:\ -> New CDROM
>H:\ -> CDRW Plextor 12x/10x/32x
>I:\ -> DVD
>
>This problem makes my system very unstable when I try to get access to
>my real CDROM (CDRW;DVD) and this is not interesting to see.
>
>On my old system, I had this problem and I solve it by putting my swap
>partition the last one of my disk. This seems to do not work on this
>system.
>
>So if you have a idea how to solve my problem without playing at erasing
>and installing Linux/Win98 multiple times (by tries and errors).
>
>I know that this question should have been already asked somewhere...
>but I did not find any traces of it.
>
>Thank you very much ! Have a nice day !
>
>Gabriel Gagnon
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>
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From: "David Emmett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finding files
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 16:55:40 +1000
"Dux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> What is the best way to locate files if you don't know their paths.
> Ta.
>
Try the "find" command. for eg. "find / -name filename -print" will search
from / looking for file called filename. Beware - very I/O intensive.
Cheers :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:10:45 GMT
There's nothing magic about xml, as others have pointed out. Despite
all the current hype, it's really just SMGL lite--25 year old
technology chopped down to a manageable size & warmed over. The only
reason people thinks it's hot is 'cause it has 'X' in its name.
Though it's got no technical advantage over other file formats, it does
have some value due to the hype--there's some consensus for it, so it's
a kind of lingua franca. A big disadvantage over other formats is that
it's so verbose--data files typically grow by an order of magnitude
when converted to xml format.
It's already being used for configuration files & deployment
descriptors--something like what you're describing. It's descriptive
enough & it works. I admit that I use xml frequently because, all else
being equal, it's what everybody else thinks is new & hot & sexy. So
people think our software is cool 'cause it use xml. & like I said,
it's no disadvantage that it works & you can get free parsers for it
from IBM & Sun & Oracle etc.
But it doesn't solve any new problems. The biggest pain in the ass in
installing new software on an existing system is the interaction with
the software & hardware configuration that is already there.
That's the tough part & xml doesn't help with that. That's the job
that install programs do.
In article <3q1p5.14319$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is a few observations:
>
> Linux on the desktop (and as a server) requires it to beat Windows
XXX hands
> down for ease of configuration, security, and management.
>
> Installing software is simply the act of constructing in storage a
proper
> representation of the software. In other words, our talking about
> installing software on a computer is like a painter insisting she is
> installing a picture of a duck onto her painting. It doesn't matter
how she
> does it, she is rendering the duck, not installing it.
>
> We need to get rid of install programs, on all platforms. There isn't
> another single thing we do on computers that causes more in dollars
and time
> (Solitaire *is* a close second, however ;-).
>
> XML can be used to define a program in abstract. A single, separate
> Software Rendering Facility can be used to take a program's abstract
form in
> XML and render it to the target computer system.
>
> XML can be used to capture the options required for this rendering.
>
> XML can be used to refer to a group of programs in abstract (XML),
and their
> options (XML), in order to define a single definition that can be
expressed
> in different ways on different computer systems to construct an
operational,
> distributed application. (Unlike today, where we have to install
every web
> server, every firewall, every Java JDK, every etc. all from scratch,
with
> one mistake preventing any of it from working!)
>
> This discussion about how XML might be used along with Linux to
create a new
> concept in Operating Systems is beginning. We have the technology
and the
> know how. We just have to take our computer system, set it on its
side and
> view it a bit differently. This technology is going to completely
change
> the rules of software configuration, management, and security, and
you can
> make it happen.
>
> http://www.egroups.com/group/xmlos/
> http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/xmlos/
>
> Paul Snow
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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Before you buy.
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EVENT: Linux Users' Group of Davis, September 5 - More Perl
Crossposted-To:
ucd.general,sac.announce,sacramento.internet,sac.general,sac.internet,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:25:09 GMT
LUGOD, The Linux Users' Group of Davis, will hold its next meeting on:
Tuesday
September 5, 2000
6:30pm
The meeting will be held at:
Z-World, Inc.
2900 Spafford Street
Davis, CA 95616
The topic will be:
"More Perl"
presented by Micah Cowan
Perl is one of the most popular scripting languages for Unix and Linux.
It takes the best features from languages such as C, awk, sed, sh and
BASIC, and supports both procedural and object-oriented programming.
Perl is Open Source (ie, completely free), and is used heavily to provide
interactivity on websites. It works well with database software,
such as Oracle, Sybase, MySQL, and PostgreSQL.
Micah spoke on Perl basics at LUGOD's last meeting, and due to
popular demand, was invited to continue his informative presentation!
For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
schedules, etc., visit:
http://www.lugod.org/meeting/
LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the
Linux Operating System which meets twice a month in Davis, CA.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
###
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Subject: Re: Filtering spam with procmail
Date: 29 Aug 2000 06:47:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:02:32 -0400, Ramin Sina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| Could someone please tell me what I need to put in my .procmailrc if I
| want to forward all mail from .edu, .gov and .org domains to another
| account of mine, say foo.umd.edu, and reject (send back, not delete)
| all others?
|
| Thanks,
| Ramin Sina
Read the examples from the manpages:
man procmailex
Koos Pol
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From: Jeff Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: re-initialize mouse while X is running?
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:54:35 GMT
Try just switching out of the X session, and then back in. If you are at
the machine itself, this can be done by 'ctl-alt-F1' (to get into a
terminal, without exiting anything), and then immediately switching back
with 'ctl-alt-F7'
Hope it helps,
Jeff Davis
"Chuck Chargin Jr." wrote:
> Is there a way to re-initialize the mouse while X is running?
>
> I have two systems on a keyboard-video-mouse switch box. When I switch
> between the computers the mouse wheel stops working. On the windows
> machine I can use the logitech mouse applet to re-initialize the mouse
> and get the wheel back. On the Linux machine I have to exit X then get
> back in.
>
> I am using:
> Linux 2.2.5-15 (heavily updated readhat 6.0)
> PS/2 Logitech mouse (M-S48)
> XFree 3.3.5
> FVWM2
> Linksys ProConnect switchbox
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> remove the 42 from my e-mail address to send me e-mail.
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