Linux-Misc Digest #618, Volume #26 Sat, 23 Dec 00 16:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Can someone explain DUMP? (WORLOK)
Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Doink)
Xwrapper on Xfree4.0.2 (John Hanson)
Re: Can someone explain DUMP? (WORLOK)
Re: frustrated with rpm (Bill Unruh)
Re: Mount /tmp in swap (Dances With Crows)
Re: how to detect when a CDROM is loaded? ("ekkis")
Re: module net-pf-10 (Mark Post)
Re: Maximum file size gzip can handle? (Mark Post)
fsck does..boot doesn't (Brian Goodyear)
too quiet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Pineapple)
Re: argument list too long (The Ghost In The Machine)
Cannot mount reiserfs (Peter Buzanits)
Re: automated file transfer between UNIX and NT (-ljl-)
Re: send colored/formatted text in X-Chat (Dan Birchall)
Re: Question about performance ("al")
Re: lynx and https problem (Hartmann Schaffer)
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From: WORLOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can someone explain DUMP?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:01:45 GMT
Just for the record, when I ran it like:
dump 0cubdsf 96 108000 12000 /dev/nst0 /
it said:
DUMP: Please choose a blocksize <= 64KB
I wish it could query the tape drive for the tape parameters. I guess I
am getting lazy in my old age ;-)
--Tom
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You don't didn't give it the right parameters so it doesn't
> know what the length of your tape is and what density to use.
> I know, this isn't clearly defined anywhere that I could find
> either. Any man pages I read just give defaults, but nothing
> I could use to determine what parameters would work for
> which tapes. I had to experiment to get it where it would
> work for me. Something like:
>
> dump 0cubdsf 96 108000 12000 /dev/nst0 /
>
> should work for you but you will probably need to play with
> it some to get it right. Over estimating the density and size
> will cause it hit the end of the tape when full, which was okay
> with me. Instead, I look at the amount of data to be backed up
> and calcualte how much I've put on the tape already. It's hit
> and miss but it works.
>
> Note the /dev/nst0 (you have /dev/st0) in my command.
> It will create a 0-level dump archive of the / paritition and
> then stop (doesn't rewind the tape).
>
> I do like using dump for tape backups. It's tried and true,
> does an inode level backup, can be used to do incrementals,
> and can be set up w/ scripts and run from cron jobs. Being
> able to restore single files/directories is a plus, too.
>
> Regards,
> Ron
>
> WORLOK wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have always used TAR to do tape backups, and decided to try DUMP.
> > Every fs should fit on my tape, which is 4mm DAT DDS2 120m. I
started
> > with my root partition, which is small, and I cannot understand the
> > output. It seems it ran out of tape? It was only running for a few
> > seconds. Can anyone explain why it prompted for the second tape so
> > quickly??
> >
> > Output:
> >
> > # /sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/st0 /
> > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Dec 23 00:31:28 2000
> > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
> > DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda5 (/) to /dev/st0
> > DUMP: Label: none
> > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
> > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
> > DUMP: estimated 257745 tape blocks on 6.63 tape(s).
> > DUMP: Volume 1 started at: Sat Dec 23 00:31:31 2000
> > DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
> > DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
> > DUMP: Closing /dev/st0
> > DUMP: Volume 1 completed at: Sat Dec 23 00:33:04 2000
> > DUMP: Volume 1 took 0:01:33
> > DUMP: Volume 1 transfer rate: 412 KB/s
> > DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
> > DUMP: Is the new volume mounted and ready to go?: ("yes" or "no")
no
> > DUMP: Do you want to abort?: ("yes" or "no") yes
> > DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
> >
> > This is my disk:
> >
> > $ df -m
> > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hda5 289 235 39 86% /
> > /dev/hda7 3397 794 2430 25% /home
> > /dev/hda6 3999 2581 1215 68% /usr
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > --
> > ================================
> > Viva Linux!! Viva La Revolutión!
> > ================================
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com
> > http://www.deja.com/
>
>
--
================================
Viva Linux!! Viva La Revolutión!
================================
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From: Doink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.video.dvd,alt.video.dvd.software
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 14:19:02 -0800
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:57:18 +0100, "Mattias Dahlberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Is there a software player for Linux yet like PowerDVD 3 for
>> windows? PowerDVD 3 for Linux would be nice...
>
>Yes, LinDVD exists ("the WinDVD for Linux") but it's currently
>available only to certain manufacturers.
>
>
Don't bother with non-free software. Keep Linux DVD players free!
http://gape.ist.utl.pt/ment00/linuxdvd.html
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From: John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Xwrapper on Xfree4.0.2
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:14:02 GMT
I upgraded my RH 7 X implementation to 4.0.2 and now all non-root
users must use Xwrapper instead of startx. This is all fine and dandy
but now when running Xwrapper, the X server starts but there is
nothing on the screen except dots and one X.
All users used to run Helix-gnome and I would like to get that back
again. Anyone know how to do this? What config file does Xwrapper
use? I can't find any information on this.
TIA
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From: WORLOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can someone explain DUMP?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:06:00 GMT
Something confusing here. It apparently thinks my tape is shorter tha
it is, but the man page states that by default the tape length is 2300
feet. My 4mm 120m DDS2 tapes are 407ft in length.
What am I missing here?
Rgds,
Tom
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You don't didn't give it the right parameters so it doesn't
> know what the length of your tape is and what density to use.
> I know, this isn't clearly defined anywhere that I could find
> either. Any man pages I read just give defaults, but nothing
> I could use to determine what parameters would work for
> which tapes. I had to experiment to get it where it would
> work for me. Something like:
>
> dump 0cubdsf 96 108000 12000 /dev/nst0 /
>
> should work for you but you will probably need to play with
> it some to get it right. Over estimating the density and size
> will cause it hit the end of the tape when full, which was okay
> with me. Instead, I look at the amount of data to be backed up
> and calcualte how much I've put on the tape already. It's hit
> and miss but it works.
>
> Note the /dev/nst0 (you have /dev/st0) in my command.
> It will create a 0-level dump archive of the / paritition and
> then stop (doesn't rewind the tape).
>
> I do like using dump for tape backups. It's tried and true,
> does an inode level backup, can be used to do incrementals,
> and can be set up w/ scripts and run from cron jobs. Being
> able to restore single files/directories is a plus, too.
>
> Regards,
> Ron
>
> WORLOK wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have always used TAR to do tape backups, and decided to try DUMP.
> > Every fs should fit on my tape, which is 4mm DAT DDS2 120m. I
started
> > with my root partition, which is small, and I cannot understand the
> > output. It seems it ran out of tape? It was only running for a few
> > seconds. Can anyone explain why it prompted for the second tape so
> > quickly??
> >
> > Output:
> >
> > # /sbin/dump -0u -f /dev/st0 /
> > DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Sat Dec 23 00:31:28 2000
> > DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
> > DUMP: Dumping /dev/hda5 (/) to /dev/st0
> > DUMP: Label: none
> > DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
> > DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
> > DUMP: estimated 257745 tape blocks on 6.63 tape(s).
> > DUMP: Volume 1 started at: Sat Dec 23 00:31:31 2000
> > DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
> > DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
> > DUMP: Closing /dev/st0
> > DUMP: Volume 1 completed at: Sat Dec 23 00:33:04 2000
> > DUMP: Volume 1 took 0:01:33
> > DUMP: Volume 1 transfer rate: 412 KB/s
> > DUMP: Change Volumes: Mount volume #2
> > DUMP: Is the new volume mounted and ready to go?: ("yes" or "no")
no
> > DUMP: Do you want to abort?: ("yes" or "no") yes
> > DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted.
> >
> > This is my disk:
> >
> > $ df -m
> > Filesystem 1M-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/hda5 289 235 39 86% /
> > /dev/hda7 3397 794 2430 25% /home
> > /dev/hda6 3999 2581 1215 68% /usr
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > --
> > ================================
> > Viva Linux!! Viva La Revolutión!
> > ================================
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com
> > http://www.deja.com/
>
>
--
================================
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================================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: frustrated with rpm
Date: 23 Dec 2000 19:27:36 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
]Hi,
]1) I can't find the answer to a question seems to me very simple:
]how to show the info of a un-installed rpm package.
rpm -qilp mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
p says use the package. Without that it will look in its internal
database for something called mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm and not find
it (since it would be called eitehr mkkickstart-2.1-1 or just
mkkickstart in that database.) The -U and -i ( as first item) are the
only ones (?) which take the full file name as argument.
]I tried at least more than 3 times looking into the man page trying
]to find the answer and today I have to admit that I can't do
]it. This is all that I've tried today:
] 1018 rpm -q mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1019 rpm -q --specfile mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1020 rpm -q -i mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1021 rpm -i mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1022 rpm -q -l mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1023 rpm --querytags -i mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1024 rpm --querytags mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1025 rpm -q -i mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1026 rpm -q -dump mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
] 1027 rpm -dump mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
You forgot the -p each time.
]2) how to list what it depends on and what files it includes?
-ql is the file listing.
]3) Isn't the following info given by rpm contradicting?
][root@host RPMS]# rpm -i mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
]package mkkickstart-2.1-1 is already installed
No. This says try to install the package stored in the file
mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm. That package name is
mkkickstart-2.1-1 and it is installed.
] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
][root@host RPMS]# rpm -q mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm
]package mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm is not installed
] ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This says look for the package mkkickstart-2.1-1.noarch.rpm and no
package with that name exists.
There is a confusion in the documents between the rpm package itself and
the file which contains that package (usually ends with .rpm).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Mount /tmp in swap
Date: 23 Dec 2000 19:27:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 08:57:13 -0800, Harvey Taylor staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows) Matt Graham wrote:
>> AIX is Unix, according to IBM, and you know the old joke about AIX,
>> Unix, and space aliens, right?
> No.
> Pray do tell.
Ack. This is part of the Unix Folklore, and is most likely in the
Jargon File somewhere:
"A space alien saw Unix, and then described it to another alien, who
implemented AIX from the description. Unfortunately, the aliens didn't
speak each others' language, and had to gesture a lot." --paraphrased
from someone; forget who.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: "ekkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to detect when a CDROM is loaded?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 11:29:45 -0800
**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com ****
well, the idea is that I want hands-free operation. I put in a CD, a script
runs automatically (i.e. I don't have to manually do anything) and does its
thing and when it's done it ejects the CD.
"Michael Heiming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I don't know why you would need that? Before you change a CD you have to
leave
> every wd below /cdrom or whatever
> yours is called and umount that thing, or you will not be able to open
it....
>
> You have to mount the new one, that way you could call a script, say
mymount,
> which
> contains your stuff and:
>
> mount -t iso9660 /dev/<your_CD-ROM> /cdrom
>
> Good luck
>
> Michael Heiming
>
> ekkis wrote:
>
> > **** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com ****
> >
> > can anyone point me in the right direction? I would like to run a
script of
> > my choice whenever a CDROM is inserted into the drive. how can this be
> > done? is there a better newsgroup to post this
> > question to?
> >
> > 1k thx - e
> >
> > please cc me on reply as I don't check this newsgroup often!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: module net-pf-10
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:41:52 GMT
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:57:54 +0100, Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Markus Kossmann wrote:
>> Dirk Groeneveld wrote:
>> > My non-stistribution linux complains about a missing module called
>> > net-pf-10 when booting. I grepped the whole kernel 2.2.17 tree for
>> > net-pf-10 but couldn't find anything. What's up with it?
>> net-pf-10 is ipv6 .
>> If you don't need it disable it in /etc/modules.conf wit
>> alias net-pf-10 off
>Thank you so far ... how do you know that? I mean, how could I find out
>myself what weird module names stand for? There has to be some kind of
>documentation...
You would have to look in the kernel source (header files actually) at
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/socket.h
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: Maximum file size gzip can handle?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:46:59 GMT
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 13:29:21 +0100, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>you could better use bzip2/bunzip which has far better compression rate
>than gzip.
>But you can't use it direct from tar like gzip, [-z] . Perhaps future
>version of tar will have it,
>or I could use these few free days and do it on my own, looks like there
>is no -b2 option.....:-))
Check for the -y or --bzip2 option. If it's not there, you can re-compile
your tar command from source to support it. It's available on my tar (GNU
tar) 1.13.
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 06:03:42 -0500
From: Brian Goodyear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fsck does..boot doesn't
I added another disk (actually replaced an existing one) and now boot
stops with the dreaded "fsck failed" after "/usr/bin/find does not
exist".
After logging on as root, I am able to "e2fsck -f -b 8193 /dev/sda hda
hdc hdd and using Partition Magic eveything seems fine. But no boot.
At that same prompt I can change to each directory on each drive and see
the files
EXCEPT /mnt and /usr. Does that mean that /usr has dissappeared and
that is the cause of the problem rather than an fsck problem?
Thanks in advance..Brian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: too quiet
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:02:44 GMT
hi,
I maxed out the volume controls of
kmix, xmms and my headphones, yet sometimes I still don't get the
desired volume (with some particularly quiet mp3s). Are there any ways
to remedy that?
Thanks
Wroot
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From: Pineapple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.video.dvd,alt.video.dvd.software
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: 23 Dec 2000 20:10:40 GMT
>Don't bother with non-free software. Keep Linux DVD players free!
I always wondered what gives a linux user a right not to pay for dvd-
player, even through everyone else is paying for them ?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: argument list too long
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:13:43 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:20:36 GMT
<91vv0d$dtd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > What I want to do is delete a large number of files based on a
>search
>> > but I get an "argument list too long error". How do I get around
>this?
>>
>> man xargs. Unix faq?
>>
>> next!
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
>Cool! Thank you!
>
>The following worked great.
>
>find . -name 'mail.info.*' -print0 | xargs -0 -r -n $(getconf ARG_MAX)
>-P 0 rm -fv
Exactly; that's a pretty solution which will also work for
files with spaces in them, as well. (Windows volumes,
for example, have the directory "Program Files"; without the
-print0 and -0 options, xargs tends to do the wrong thing.)
The original reason, BTW, for the "arguments too long" is a bit
of a historical problem; many Unices limit the total number
of arguments to a set value (1023 or so) and the total number
of bytes for the argument line to a set value (5120). I don't
know if these numbers are fixed in stone or not, but Linux
apparently inherited these issues.
Of course, old-time DOS used to be much worse; an environment string
limited to 128 bytes? Puh-leaze. :-) (That's been long since
fixed, fortunately, and may even have been a configurable option
to COMMAND.COM back then -- /P:1024 or something in CONFIG.SYS.)
[.sigsnip]
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
up 87 days, 22:07, running Linux.
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From: Peter Buzanits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Cannot mount reiserfs
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:19:01 +0100
I have about 1 GB free space (unallocated) at the end of my 20 GB disk.
There are three partitions with SuSE 6.3 on the disk. (/dev/hda1-3)
I installed rpm -i reiserfs.rpm from the SuSE CD.
To test reiserfs I created /dev/hda4 with fdisk with the full GB at the
end of the disk (type 83). Then I set up the partition with mkreiserfs
/dev/hda4
When I try to mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda4 /reiser it says:
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4 or too
many mounted file systems
The reiserfs kernel module is loaded:
# lsmod
Module
reiserfs 102856 0
[...]
reiserfsck also works fine:
# reiserfsck /dev/hda4
[...]
Replaying journal..ok
Checking S+tree..ok
Comparing bitmaps..ok
What could be the problem?
thanks in advance,
Peter
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: automated file transfer between UNIX and NT
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 20:20:08 GMT
In article <91vme5$6pr$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
-ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <91s8a4$gs1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I am looking for a solution to transfer files automatically between
a
> > UNIX box and a NT box. These two boxes are connected through a LAN.
> > Each box has two directories, inbound & outbound. Each one send the
> > files in its outbound directory to another one¡¯s inbound directory.
> > Does anybody know is there any shareware/freeware/third-party
product
> > which can meet this goal? I have not selected the UNIX type, so any
> > UNIX, Linux/HP-UX/AIX/Solaris, whatever is OK. However the NT
version
> > is 4.0. I would appreciate if somebody help.
>
> NT has ftp which can be run under cron or its equivalent; also it
> has rsh. Neither protocol is secure. If this is important then
> you can use ssh, freely available for NT and Unix. There's a whole
> set of Unix-ish utilities available for NT.
>
> Check out:
> http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
I failed to mention that NT has rcp while ssh has scp both are
copying program, the latter being a secure one.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Birchall)
Subject: Re: send colored/formatted text in X-Chat
Date: 23 Dec 2000 20:43:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can someone texll me how o send colored and formatted text to a channel
> in X-Chat.?
Sure. Down at the right end of the box where you type text, there's
a button with a "<" character on it. Click that, and a little palette
will pop up, giving you color and formatting options.
Happy holidays!
-Dan
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From: "al" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Question about performance
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 12:49:12 -0800
Thanks to all who responded with helpful suggestions. I am going keep
experimenting, but changing to a simpler window manager certainly makes a
big difference (I guess both KDE and Gnome are quite big, which is not
surprising with all they do). I will also rebuild the kernel to make it as
small as possible.
Thanks again.
"mpulliam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:16:51 -0800,
> al <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >... I installed the mandrake
> >distribution (7.2
>
> I am running the same version at the moment.
>
> >My problem is with the performance of i
> the Linux installation, and I am
> >wondering if performance can differ
> between different distributions.<<
>
> I have tried nine different Linuxes
> and I find Mandrake 7.2 about as fast as the
> newest versions of the other major distros --
> that is to say, on my computer (which has even
> less memory than yours) they are slow as mud.
>
> >One of my suspicions is that the main
> problem may be X11
> >... Perhaps the window managers need a
> lot more memory than they used to<<
>
> I think they do. I switched Mandrake 7.2
> from the default KDE (which is excellent, if
> you can run it) over to icewm and got considerable
> improvement.
>
>
> >... The two window managers I tried are KDE and
> >Gnome, and they are both quite slow.
>
> I used Gnome on Storm Linux a while ago and it was
> too slow to be worthwhile too. Try a smaller wm
> (blackbox, icewm, even fvwm) and see what you think.
>
> In addition, if you have a smaller monitor with your
> smaller computer, the icons and text on the Gnome
> and KDE screens are so little and pixilated you can
> hardly tell what they say. A simpler window manager
> is a visual improvement as well as a speed improvement.
>
> I also use text mode mail programs etc in a xterm
> instead of the big KMail and KNode (for news).
> This is ugly but much more efficient.
> KMail took 22 seconds to load! It isn't their
> fault, it's my hardware.
>
> Mandrake 7.2 has a whole lot
> of nice features (including a variety of security
> settings for different situations, and very convenient
> support for all your peripheral devices) so I am
> sticking with it. Maybe the above adaptations will
> make it acceptable to you too until we both
> get bigger computers.
>
> MP
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: lynx and https problem
Date: 23 Dec 2000 11:38:27 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Esteban Flocco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Dec 2000 01:20:42 GMT, Tom Hoffmann wrote:
>>I have RH7 w/ lynx 2.8.4. When i try to access a secure login page, I
>>get the message "This client does not contain support for https URLs".
>>I looked at the lynx man page and at the lynx user guide. The only
>>thing I found was the -validate option, but I can not get it to make a
>>difference.
>>
>
>I have read that lynx doesn't support https by default because of US
>Export Laws. However, there are patches to allow lynx to use it. Take a
>look at http://www.crl.com/~subdir/lynx.html I think there you can find
>them.
debian has a https supporting lynx in there nonUS section
hs
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