Linux-Misc Digest #619, Volume #26 Sat, 23 Dec 00 18:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Can someone explain DUMP? (Chris J/#6)
Weird modem(s) problem/ VMWare ("Steve Westwood")
Re: Backup Hard Drive... (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Cannot mount reiserfs (Michael Heiming)
Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Dirk =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?=)
anyone:printing on an epson stylus color 980 (Rainer krienke)
Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Re: Cannot mount reiserfs (BorrisYeltsin)
New Motherboard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help with 'chat' (Daniel Bair)
Re: New Motherboard
Re: send colored/formatted text in X-Chat (Rick)
Re: Kill this thing - how?
Palm emulators for Linux? (Matt O'Toole)
Re: Mount /tmp in swap (David Efflandt)
My /home partition died... ("Greg Conway")
Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
Re: DVD software for Linux yet? (Madhusudan Singh)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Subject: Re: Can someone explain DUMP?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 23 Dec 2000 21:16:55 -0000
WORLOK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I have a scsi2 Tecmar WangDAT DDS2 drive. Could it have written that
>amount of data that fast? I have my doubts.
>
>Rgds,
>
>Tom
>
If in doubt, rewind the tape (I note you used nst0) with 'mt rewind' or
maybe 'mt -f /dev/st0 rewind', then:
restore -i -f /dev/st0
This runs restore in interactive mode, and you can browse what's been
dumped :)
Chris...
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From: "Steve Westwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Weird modem(s) problem/ VMWare
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:28:51 -0000
Until yesterday I had the following: Linux box with internal ISDN card for
internet, external analogue modem on ttyS0 for remote dialin/telnet and
second analogue modem for Windoze NT running under VMWare. All worked OK,
but now Linux has taken over the second modem as well, so the VM can't grab
it.
Can't find any messages or any changes in config files. Any ideas?
TIA.
Steve.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Backup Hard Drive...
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 21:32:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc, Peter T. Breuer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Sat, 2 Dec 2000 00:53:08 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I never liked tar for backups. Perhaps that was because when I was at
>> Bell Labs, we replaced tar with cpio as a much better approach. We
>> were astonished that the rest of the world preferred tar. So I just do
>
>The reason is that cpio has incomprehensible options .. and an
>incomprehensible operating mode. And I speak as one who does not
>comprehend it (the best I did with it was use it to de-rpm rpms).
>In contrast, tar is simple: tar czvf foo.tgz "list of files and dirs".
I'll agree, tar is simpler, but cpio isn't horribly difficult either
once one wades through the ton of options and understands what
needs to be done when to whom. :-) It has three basic modes,
two of which you're probably interested in (the third is essentially
a recursive copy).
It's a difference in philosophy; tar takes its filenames from the
command line and recursively descends, whereas cpio wants them from
standard input or a specified file, and processes only that object
(and nothing underneath). This may make little difference in an
automated setup, however.
tar czf /blah/blah.tgz /blah/blah/blah
or
tar cf - /blah/blah/blah | gzip > /blah/blah.tgz
versus
find /blah/blah/blah ... -depth ... | cpio -oc | gzip > /blah/blah.cpiz
(the cpio manpage suggests the -depth option, to avoid problems
with non-readable directories). It is not clear from the
documentation whether cpio supports recursive descent into
directories or not; a test run suggests that all it does is
create an archive entry for the directory, but does not
descend into the directory to read additional stuff.
Hence the find (or its equivalent) is mandatory.
The 'c' option is for maximum portability; it specifies that
archives are created in an old ASCII format. One can use
instead -H format or --format=format, where format is
one of bin, odc, newc, crc, tar, ustar, hpbin, or hpodc.
(-c == -H odc, I think.) 'man cpio' or 'info cpio' for more details.
Note that 'ustar' is GNU tar, which means that GNU cpio should be able
to create tar-extractable archives, if I read this correctly, and
also restore from tar-created archives.
Restore is a little simpler:
gunzip < /blah/blah.cpiz | cpio -icd
gunzip < /blah/blah.cpiz | cpio -icdm
(the 'd' specifies that directories should be created as required,
a la 'mkdir -p'; 'm' preserves modification times); compare this with
tar xzf /blah/blah.tgz
or
gunzip < /blah/blah.tgz | tar xf -
One can also restrict what's extracted:
gunzip < /blah/blah.cpiz | cpio -icd pattern pattern ....
as opposed to:
tar xzf /blah/blah.cpiz prefix1 prefix2 ...
or
gunzip < /blah/blah.cpiz | tar xf - prefix1 prefix2 ...
(the 'tar' manpage I have doesn't specify what is done
with the arguments during an extract).
One can list the contents of the archive:
gunzip < /blah/blah.cpiz | cpio -ict
as opposed to:
tar tzf /blah/blah.cpiz
or
gunzip < /blah/blah.cpiz | tar tf -
Note that the find command can do interesting things, such as find
all files which are newer than the last archive; therefore, one isn't
really losing anything; cpio's job is to pack things, not to select them,
and find can find the things that need packing. A nice illustration
of the quasi-Unix philosophy of "let the specialist do what he's good at",
although it's a little less convenient for the casual user.
HTH.
[snip for brevity]
>> For more on BRU, see URL: http://www.estinc.com/products.php
>> For more on OBDR, see URL: http://www.hp.com/tape/papers/obdr_ov.html
>
>
>Peter
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
up 87 days, 23:00, running Linux.
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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:24:39 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot mount reiserfs
Hello,
I have been using reiserfs on production server, on all types of HD, from
cheap IDE to ext. RAID-5, not one problem with reiserfs, in case of some
hard locks (due to bad/broken hardware), it's always amazing when you
accpect
a long e2fsck scanning your disc, (used discspace > 100GB)....but reiserfs
just takes one second and tells you it replayed some transactions and
everything is OK.
I would lookup the reiserfs homepage http://www.namesys.com/ , there is a
mailinglist but AFAIK it's very low traffic,
but if you suply some more info about your setup (versions) you could get
answer
from Hans Reiser, which will likely be more helpfull than mine....:-(
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Peter Buzanits wrote:
> I have about 1 GB free space (unallocated) at the end of my 20 GB disk.
> There are three partitions with SuSE 6.3 on the disk. (/dev/hda1-3)
>
> I installed rpm -i reiserfs.rpm from the SuSE CD.
>
> To test reiserfs I created /dev/hda4 with fdisk with the full GB at the
> end of the disk (type 83). Then I set up the partition with mkreiserfs
> /dev/hda4
>
> When I try to mount -t reiserfs /dev/hda4 /reiser it says:
>
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda4 or too
> many mounted file systems
>
> The reiserfs kernel module is loaded:
>
> # lsmod
> Module
> reiserfs 102856 0
> [...]
>
> reiserfsck also works fine:
>
> # reiserfsck /dev/hda4
> [...]
> Replaying journal..ok
> Checking S+tree..ok
> Comparing bitmaps..ok
>
> What could be the problem?
>
> thanks in advance,
> Peter
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From: Dirk =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:55:49 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pineapple wrote:
>
> >Don't bother with non-free software. Keep Linux DVD players free!
>
> I always wondered what gives a linux user a right not to pay for dvd-
> player, even through everyone else is paying for them ?
That's linux: You don't have to pay for the whole operating system, so
why pay for the applications? ;)
No, the point is, why should I pay anything, if there's a free
alternative? But if the alternative is worse than a commercial product,
many would invest money in it. Let's have a look how things are going
...
Dk
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer krienke)
Subject: anyone:printing on an epson stylus color 980
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:03:20 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
I try to print to my new epson stylus color printer. The problem is,
that except for plain ascii text I cannot print anything like eg
tiger.ps from gs. I am using cups 1.1.4 with the gimpprint filters
installed. The effect is, that a single printout is scattered across
severel (10-20) pages. On each page you can see only some "lines" of the
image that should appear on *one* page.
Does anyone have a epson 980 running, and if what configuration do you
use?
Thanks a lot for any help
Rainer
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Universitaet Koblenz, http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~krienke
Rechenzentrum, Voice: +49 261 287 1312
Rheinau 1, 56075 Koblenz, Germany Fax: +49 261 287 1355
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: 23 Dec 2000 14:10:29 -0800
Pineapple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Don't bother with non-free software. Keep Linux DVD players free!
>
>I always wondered what gives a linux user a right not to pay for dvd-
>player, even through everyone else is paying for them ?
Exactly!!! What the hell gives linux users the right to use their
computer without paying for MS Windows like everyone else??? This
crazy concept of freedom is just stupid, I wish those damn Linux
commies would just grow up!!!! Don't they realise that the encryption
of digital media protects us from ourselves? Without it being
locked up we would be free to do whatever we wanted with the stuff
we bought, and we all know that freedom is just an excuse to bypass
the policies that large corperations have set for us....they honestly
care and whant to protect us from our own folly, we should listen
to them and stop trying to protect this obsolete concept of "freedom".
If linux users want to use their computers, they should use a real
OS like windows and stop trying to get away with doing whatever they
please with their hardware. Nothing stops free use as long as you
use it the way coorperations want you to, or you use obsolete hardware.
And with obsolete hardware readily available, there is NO reason to
worry about the new hardware being unaccessable as it should be!
Down with Linux and the pirate mentality it promotes!!!!
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: 23 Dec 2000 14:13:27 -0800
Dirk =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pineapple wrote:
>>
>> >Don't bother with non-free software. Keep Linux DVD players free!
>>
>> I always wondered what gives a linux user a right not to pay for dvd-
>> player, even through everyone else is paying for them ?
>
>That's linux: You don't have to pay for the whole operating system, so
>why pay for the applications? ;)
>
>No, the point is, why should I pay anything, if there's a free
>alternative? But if the alternative is worse than a commercial product,
>many would invest money in it. Let's have a look how things are going
>....
God this is sad.....does noone understand the issues involved???
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From: BorrisYeltsin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Cannot mount reiserfs
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:31:02 +0000
I know it sounds dumb, but did you make sure that /reiser exists?? Not
as if you were the kind of idiot who would do that but you'd be
surprised how things like this slip you're mind......
BorrisYeltsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New Motherboard
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:23:34 GMT
Probably a thumb question:
Do I have to reinstall linux after a motherboard-change?
TIA
Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/
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From: Daniel Bair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with 'chat'
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 17:43:42 -0500
Can minicom be used in a script?
I just want to issue specific AT commands through a cron job.
mpulliam wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 16:41:47 -0500, Daniel
> Bair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I need to use chat to send some at commands
>
> to a modem, but I don't want
>
>> to make a ppp connection.
>> What can I do? chat doesn't seem to work
>
> from the command line correctly.
>
> I send commands to the modem using minicom.
>
> MP
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Motherboard
Date: 23 Dec 2000 14:45:38 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Probably a thumb question:
>Do I have to reinstall linux after a motherboard-change?
>
Unless you are switching from ix86 to Alpha or something I doubt
you will need to do more then plug in the HD.
You might want to recompile the kernel for the right chipsets though.
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: send colored/formatted text in X-Chat
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 17:46:40 -0500
Dan Birchall wrote:
>
> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can someone texll me how o send colored and formatted text to a channel
> > in X-Chat.?
>
> Sure. Down at the right end of the box where you type text, there's
> a button with a "<" character on it. Click that, and a little palette
> will pop up, giving you color and formatting options.
>
> Happy holidays!
>
> -Dan
>
> --
> Dan Birchall - Palolo Valley - Honolulu HI - http://dan.scream.org/
> Peruse my opinions, at http://dbirchall.epinions.com/user-dbirchall
> Corporate Holidays 2001 - http://208.184.171.20/articles/262573.htm
> My addresses expire... take out the hex stamp if your reply bounces
Thanks, this has helped with sending single lines, but I would like to
be able to send multiple lines (ascii art) and hate differnet colors on
whole lines and some diferent colors within lines... and idea on how to
do that?
--
Rick
* To email me remove theobvious from my address *
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kill this thing - how?
Date: 23 Dec 2000 14:49:08 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee soonki) wrote:
>On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 07:25:56 -0800, Tom Edelbrok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Some processes shown in "ps -A" respond to a kill command and others don't.
>>
>>How can I kill a pesky process that doesn't respond to kill? (Besides
>>rebooting!)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Tom
>>
>>
>try to use -9 option.
>
>ex) I wanna kill a 100(PID) process
>first..
> kill 100
>wouldn't die? then...
> kill -9 100
Sometimes you may be running into a forking process....you will
w;nt to kill them all
killall -9 [process name (eg netscape)]
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From: Matt O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Palm emulators for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:56:05 GMT
Are there any Palm emulators available for Linux? I'd like to be able to
run and test Palm applications, and take screenshots to stick into printed
docs and web pages.
Matt O.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Mount /tmp in swap
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 23:02:58 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 22 Dec 2000 12:53:28 -0400, * Tong * <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > [...]
>> > Now, having happily stayed in the above situation for a while and
>> > gained some more knowledge of the swap, I now realized that maybe
>> > the best way is the other way around -- mounting /tmp in swap,
>> > 'cause I can make swap grow in some critical circumstances when the
>> > /tmp grows too big.
>> >
>> > So, how should I mount /tmp in swap? Detailed instruction is very
>> > much appreciated. Thanks.
>> >
>>
>> You can't.
>> swap space doesn't have a normal filesystem.
>> It's not even in the root tree of the FS.(unless you make a swapfile, then
>> ofcourse the *file* is, the swapspace still isn't)
>
>Hmm, yeah, that was my first impression. And it is also the reason
>that I went the other way. But... let me show you it is doable in
>Solaris:
>
>$ mount
>/ on /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s0 read/write/setuid/largefiles on Tue Dec 19 21:56:18 2000
>/usr on /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s6 read/write/setuid/largefiles on Tue Dec 19 21:56:18 2000
>/proc on /proc read/write/setuid on Tue Dec 19 21:56:18 2000
>/dev/fd on fd read/write/setuid on Tue Dec 19 21:56:18 2000
>/export/home on /dev/dsk/c0t0d0s7 setuid/read/write/largefiles on Tue Dec 19 21:56:20
>2000
>/tmp on swap read/write on Tue Dec 19 21:56:20 2000
>
>$ uname -svpr
>SunOS 5.6 Generic_105181-20 sparc
>
>See the last line "/tmp on swap"? Heeheehee, guys, got to think about
>it, 'cause Linux shouldn't be too much different from Unix. well,
>hopefully it is not, :-)
There is some way to do that in FreeBSD too, but I do not recall the
details. I believe you actually create a ramdisk for /tmp and that is
only swapped out of RAM if the RAM is needed for something else more
urgent. In practice you are not likely to notice a speed difference using
a ramdisk in Linux, but it does minimize interruptions of other disk
access. So it is that reason that I use a ramdisk for SETI@home
processing (which typically only saves its state every 2 minutes and I
backup to hard drive every 2 hrs).
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http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: "Greg Conway" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: My /home partition died...
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:02:41 -0800
DISTRO: Redhat 6.1
My /home partition on /dev/hda7 is gone...and i have a lot of important data
on it. When i run fsck it says that it is a zero-lenght partition. Does
anybody know how to retrieve the data on that partition? Also...when i go
to do a manual mount on /dev/hda7, it says that it is not a block device.
Please help
Greg C
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Luis_Domingo_L=F3pez?=)
Crossposted-To: alt.video.dvd,alt.video.dvd.software
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 22:13:10 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pineapple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> >Don't bother with non-free software. Keep Linux DVD players free!
>
> I always wondered what gives a linux user a right not to pay for dvd-
> player, even through everyone else is paying for them ?
>
Wondering about the reason why Linux users won't pay for watching DVD
movies is not the question. The REAL question is why anybody MUST pay to
watch DVD movies. NOBODY SHOULD have to pay for watching DVD's contents,
or you aren't you already paying for the content (movie) itself ?
- --
José Luis Domingo López
Linux Registered User #189436 Debian GNU/Linux Potato (P166 64 MB RAM)
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From: Madhusudan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD software for Linux yet?
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 18:07:42 -0500
I am sure that you meant that as (an unadmitted) joke. It was hilarious !!
In case you didn't, read what you wrote again :-)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Pineapple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Don't bother with non-free software. Keep Linux DVD players free!
> >
> >I always wondered what gives a linux user a right not to pay for dvd-
> >player, even through everyone else is paying for them ?
>
> Exactly!!! What the hell gives linux users the right to use their
> computer without paying for MS Windows like everyone else??? This
> crazy concept of freedom is just stupid, I wish those damn Linux
> commies would just grow up!!!! Don't they realise that the encryption
> of digital media protects us from ourselves? Without it being
> locked up we would be free to do whatever we wanted with the stuff
> we bought, and we all know that freedom is just an excuse to bypass
> the policies that large corperations have set for us....they honestly
> care and whant to protect us from our own folly, we should listen
> to them and stop trying to protect this obsolete concept of "freedom".
>
> If linux users want to use their computers, they should use a real
> OS like windows and stop trying to get away with doing whatever they
> please with their hardware. Nothing stops free use as long as you
> use it the way coorperations want you to, or you use obsolete hardware.
> And with obsolete hardware readily available, there is NO reason to
> worry about the new hardware being unaccessable as it should be!
>
> Down with Linux and the pirate mentality it promotes!!!!
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