Linux-Misc Digest #619, Volume #18 Fri, 15 Jan 99 00:13:15 EST
Contents:
Re: HELP: Setting up a DIAL-IN PPP SERVER on my Linux box?? (Nico Kadel-Garcia)
Re: HELP - I need recommendation on Screen Saver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Richard Steiner)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (K. Spoon)
Sound utility to play wav files slower?? (Joel Horowitz)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Message Queue Middleware for Linux? ("Anders Östling")
Re: UID Question (simon jordan)
Re: Logins denied (Samue Aw)
Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Alan Boyd)
Re: a kill question (Dave Brown)
Re: please HELP: masquerading outgoing mail sender's ip (Robert Burrows)
Re: 3C905B Ethernet board (Matt Bettencourt)
Reference library (MalkContent)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nico Kadel-Garcia)
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Re: HELP: Setting up a DIAL-IN PPP SERVER on my Linux box??
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:06:26 GMT
On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:28:41 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I know others have probably asked, but I'm not sure so I'll
>ask.....Does anyone know how to set up a Dial-In PPP Server on a Linux
>Machine so i can dial into it from afar and get tcp/ip routing to work
>with it??? Sort of like having a single user ISP going on, ya know? If
>anyone can help, thanks in advance, if not......ask someone who might
>know AND thanks in advance...or something
Read my notes at http://cirl.meei.harvard.edu/hylafax/linux/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP - I need recommendation on Screen Saver
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:51:52 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> i set mine up to first blank and later power-save the monitor after
> inactivity. i leave my box up 24/7 so there's never any question of
> if i left it on or off.
>
> --
> Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
Johan,
Can you tell me how you did that under Linux? My home machine never blanks
except when sitting at the login prompt, but my work machine blanks after 5
minutes of no keyboard/mouse, even if a screen saver is running at the time.
I can't find a way to change the behavior of either of these boxes.
Thanks,
Bob
Bob Trevithick
Company:Qmail
User:rft
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:21:36 -0600
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying:
>In article <77jq2r$vic$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Chris Severn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message <77icc4$p3f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>> >Windows IS popular among most computer users.
>>
>> Well, that depends on your version of "popular". Many people fill up their
>
>In this case, I mean the one that is most used by average pc users.
I'll bet that Income Tax forms are the most commonly used government
publication in the US, but that doesn't make them "popular". :-)
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-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris +
WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
I tried NR/2 once, but I didn't inhale...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (K. Spoon)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 14 Jan 1999 10:29:00 GMT
In article <6qin2.8965$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jim G wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
> >Let's be realistic here. MS didn't create stupid users. They existed
> >already. Windows et al made computers so common, everyone seems to have
> >one. That's why you see so many clueless users. It's like making cars
> >accessable to everyone, you're bound to uncover people who can't drive
> >at all. Some people just don't have any sense whatsoever.
> One thing I can not understand about Linux folks is why they think they are
> so much better than 95% of the people in the world just because they
> happened to figure out how to get a Linux system running with out burning
> down their house.
I'll say amen to that.
However, please keep in mind that who you see posting here does not speak for
the entire Linux community. As Linux has gotten easier to use/install, we've
also managed to pick up the crowd that's trying so hard to be el33t and find
some way to distinguish themselves from all the other mundane sheeple who
infest their world. It's a phenomenon similiar to the Windows users who refer
to themselves as "Power Users" and scoff at the unwashed masses who don't know
how to hack the Registry. No advocacy crowd has the market on condescending
clueless gits who are looking to pick a fight rather than exchange info
cornered.
> A lot of my customers and friends are very talented people - they are NOT
> STUPID and virtually all would be insulted by the statements above and some
> would would be ready to reshape Chris' anatomy for his views.
Chris did not say "Windows user" == "idiot". He merely stated the fact that
Windows caters to the lowest common denominator, and by doing so includes some
fairly computer illiterate people in its userbase. That doesn't mean you're
a moron just because you use Windows. In fact, the same case can be made for
RedHat, yet I know plenty of sharp cookies who use that distribution.
> The real challenge for the linux community is to figure out how to use
> linux to enrich the lives of 95% of the world without them having to learn
> anything about computers.
We're working on it. ;-)
> If the linux community can do that better
> than MS and the other commercial software folks, then linux will
> become dominant. If the linux community either is unable or unwilling
> to accept the challenge, then linux will remain a toy for the geeks
> of the world.
To be totally honest, the whole Linux vs. Windows debate isn't about which OS
is better (despite what some people might say). It's about having
alternatives....whether or not you actually use Linux is a moot point. The
mere fact that it exists so that you don't have to use Windows is the key.
The problem comes in when Windows, by either design or sheer luck, starts to
stamping out or limiting the alternatives. The prime examples of this has been
Microsoft trashing accepted standards and the reluctance of hardware vendors
to support or even allow Linux developers access to their specs because of the
belief that the only way to make money was to support Windows only. Chalk it
up to a Grand Evil Conspiracy, corporate greed, or just a lack of common sense
on a lot of people's parts, but it all still has the same effect.
> Linux folks argue about technology nits, when what the world really wants
> are tools to make their life easier.
Couldn't agree more.
Now, how much would you like to bet that rabid advocates of any OS (ie, those
who belittle others for not using their OS) are the ones least likely to be
contributing anything back to it? How many flame monkeys have you seen here
do you think are working on improving the Linux kernel, writing applications,
or cleaning up documentation?
--
K. Spoon
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From: Joel Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound utility to play wav files slower??
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:56:24 GMT
Hye,
I'm looking for a sound utility for linux that allows
- to play a sound file (or audio CD) slower, without modifying the
pitch (to be able to listen to it and reproduce it on the piano) - to
play a sound file one octave higher, but at the same speed (or even slower)
(to be able to hear the bass better)
I know there something called Musician CD-Player, but it's for Win95...
I looked at LinuxHQ and rufus.w3.org, but didn't find anything...
Thanks
Joel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:34:21 GMT
In article <77lrea$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian V. Smith) wrote:
> In article <#2Kc4gAQ#[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Joshua Schaeffer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> |> I don't remember living through the Beta vs. VHS war, so that makes me a
> |> know-nothing as far understanding why one is better than the other. So
> |> could you explain to me why I read somewhere that VHS could store longer
> |> durations of footage than the Beta, thus jumpstarting the booming rental
> |> video business to begin with?
>
One thing I know for sure about Beta, is the soundtrack quality is a lot
higher than VHS offered at that time. The reason it was so much better is
that Beta recorded the audio track across the whole tape, while VHS had the
audio on a separate track near the edge. At one time I had a good chunk of
my albums recorded on Beta; I could get at least 3 or 4 on a tape and the
quality was excellent. It was really nice for making those really long party
tapes, too.
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From: "Anders Östling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Message Queue Middleware for Linux?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:09:21 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hej
Level8 Systems has ported their FalconMQ library to Linux. FalconMQ is
a multiplatform version of MSMQ. Runs on several Unix'es, OpenVMS and
MVS. Check www.level8.com
/Anders
Eddie Atherton wrote:
> On 3 Jan 1999 07:53:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B.
> Browne) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 14:36:54 +0800, Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
> >>Hello,
> >> Are there any message queue middleware available for Linux? Like
> >>Tibco, MSMQ?
> >
> >Um. Tibco, perhaps? And Tecco. Reportedly Tengah and OM3.
>
> There's also a client for IBM's MQSeries.
>
> Can't remember the URL (I'm at home at the moment) but if you really
> need it, e-mail me and I'll send you the URL from my office.
>
> -Cheers,
>
> Eddie
>
> Remove ONYERBIKE to e-mail me.
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IKEA Corporate Technology Group
Email: anders dot ostling AT neurope dot ikea dot com
Phone: +46-42-25 73 45
Fax : +46-42-25 73 70
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Hej
<P>Level8 Systems has ported their FalconMQ library to Linux. FalconMQ
is
<BR>a multiplatform version of MSMQ. Runs on several Unix'es, OpenVMS and
<BR>MVS. Check www.level8.com
<P>/Anders
<P>Eddie Atherton wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>On 3 Jan 1999 07:53:42 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Christopher B.
<BR>Browne) wrote:
<P>>On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 14:36:54 +0800, Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted:
<BR>>>Hello,
<BR>>> Are there any message queue middleware available
for Linux? Like
<BR>>>Tibco, MSMQ?
<BR>>
<BR>>Um. Tibco, perhaps? And Tecco. Reportedly Tengah
and OM3.
<P>There's also a client for IBM's MQSeries.
<P>Can't remember the URL (I'm at home at the moment) but if you really
<BR>need it, e-mail me and I'll send you the URL from my office.
<P>-Cheers,
<P>Eddie
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From: simon jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UID Question
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:06:37 +0000
Any better Idea can't find MAX_UID in kernel files
Simon
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From: Samue Aw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Logins denied
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:29:48 +0800
login as root
adduser john
passwd john
new unix password : ****
reneter password : ****
logout and login as john and try it, should be able to work
"John M. Securda" wrote:
> My linux box won't let me log in as any user except root. I did some
> poking around in the man pages and found out about the /etc/nologin file.
> So I deleted it. I still can't log in. Is there anything else I can do to
> fix this problem?
> Thanks
> John
>
> --
>
> John M. Securda | AEA F97
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 404.206.4070
> 337381 GT Station | { while(1) fork(); }
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 03:54:11 GMT
In article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Patrick
O'Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Ambassador KosH wrote:
>
> > who gives a rat's ass what the public thinks? the majority of the people
polled
> > (not necessarily the general public) think clinton shouldn't be removed from
> > office, but he still commited crimes that would get the average joe around
5-15
> > years or more in jail under federal law. Just because part or most of the
> > public likes the person on trial doesn't mean that the law should overlook
the
> > issue because they are popular.
>
> Well said...for THIS reason both Reagan and Bush, both committing FAR, FAR
> greater and grave offenses against the Constitution and the rule of law
> (Iran-Contra, violating the Bowling Amendment, etc, lying under oath...)
> should have been nailed to the wall, impeached and jailed.
>
> As for what the public thinks, it DOES matter. If the public didn't give
> a whit for linux then there would be no commercial software provided for
> linux. No games, ever (the minor-league old style, primative little toys
> like galaga, solitaire, etc, do NOT count...I'm talkin' REAL, technically
> polished and advanced games like Quake, Unreal, Half-Life, Battlespire,
> etc).
>
What the heck does support for a os have to do with support in a court case?
May I remind you that even though the public largely thought that OJ Simpson
was guilty yet he was found innocent. There is no question of whether or not
he commited the crimes he is accused of what the senate has to decide is
wether or not these crimes are bad enough to remove the presiedent and put
the country in chaos. A lot of other countries like Iraq might use the
opportunity of the country being in chaos and strike back at the US. Are the
crimes he commited bad enough to put the security of the country under
jepardy?
Of course these are my openions they don't neceseraly have to be tru and even
if they are you don't have to believe in them.
> There would NEVER be tax preparation software - I am STILL hoping for
> Intuit or Parson's or other company to make a version of their excellent
> tax prep software for linux - there is NO, NONE, NADA GPL versions of this
> software anywhere to be had, and it is HIGHLY unlikely, due to the legal
> access and understanding required, that a GPL version from generic hackers
> in the linux community would be much good - it takes tax expertise and an
> ability to accept liability, as with Intuit and Parson's, for tax
> problems/errors arising from the proper use of their software.
>
> With little commercial support, which depends on public support and
> perception to a great extent, then few corporations would consider linux
> (they are only doing so as it is because there IS commercial software AND
> commercial linux tech support via Caldera or RedHat, etc...NOT from
> newsgroups).
>
> Now having no commercial support at all may well be OK for a few hardcore,
> rigid mindsets in a very narrow sector of the linux community, but for
> many, perhaps MOST (and growing every day, in spite of what that small
> minority group desires) want and desire commercial software AS WELL as the
> nice GPL, freeware, etc software.
>
> The days of a small core of linux hackers/user is gone. Linux is growing
> beyond such a limited life and is taking on a life of its own that is much
> larger and richer than that. This simply has to be accepted because
> there ain't jack that the small, hardcore can do about it. For the
> non-hardcore, commercial software to SOME degree does matter. This
> doesn't threaten GPL software at all, but is adjunct to it. This
> commercial support depends on public perception and support (they are the
> customers, afterall).
>
> patrick
>
>
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From: Alan Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:18:10 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<a bunch of stuff that I deleted>
"Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class."
No, it isn't. Linux is way above that other operating system, but
thanks for pointing it out.
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Subject: Re: a kill question
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Jan 99 04:35:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
>Is it possilbe to have a process restart using kill? So that it rereads
>all configureation files? Is the a feature of Linux or unix in general?
>Also will it work on all processes or just one that were writen for it?
A typical example is sending a Hup signal to the internet daemon to have it
re-read the /etc/inetd.conf file. "kill -HUP pid#"
As I recall, the lpd will also re-read /etc/printcap... but I could be
wrong.
As far as general use, it depends on how each application is written. As
I recall, if you send an INT signal to named, it will dump the NS cache.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Burrows)
Subject: Re: please HELP: masquerading outgoing mail sender's ip
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:47:48 GMT
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 19:12:33 GMT, Andrew Andreev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>PROBLEM: my machine's IP goes instead of the domain name and some of the
>people
>I correspond with cannot receive my messages.
>
>messages bounce back with "<<< 501 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Sender
>domain
>must exist" error
>
>Our mailserver is SendMail rpm v. 8-8-7.7-17 running on RH Linux 5.1
>box.
>
>I guess I should use some kind of IP masquerading technique along with
>SendMail
>
>What should I do and is there a HOWTO for that?
>
>
>THANX FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!!
>Andrew
>
I enabled masquerading with the following procedure. First you must load
the sendmail source from the RedHat cd. It will end up in
/usr/src/redhat/BUILD/sendmail-8.8.7.
1. in .../cf/cf/redhat.mc add the lines
MASQUERADE_AS(`whatever.you.want.com')
FEATURE(masquerade_envelope)
2. cp /etc/sendmail.cf sendmail.cf.orig # just in case
3. in .../cf/cf, do
m4 ../m4/cf.m4 redhat.mc > sendmail.cf
mv sendmail.cf /etc/sendmail.cf
4. kill sendmail and restart with "/usr/sbin/sendmail -bd &"
and that should do it.
--
Robert Burrows
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From: Matt Bettencourt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3C905B Ethernet board
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:26:04 -0600
I was able to get this to work, but first I needed to disable PnP mode
on the card in DOS. The good news is that this is a one time things and
not a boot dos/disable/loadlin solutino. Then I make like it is a
3c905.
Hope this helps.
dumais wrote:
>
> Could anybody out there tell me if the subject board is
>
> supported by Linux. I am having trouble with RH5.1, Linux
>
> Kernel 2.0.34 recognizing this board. When I try to run
>
> ifconfig, I get an error saying that eth0 cannot support
>
> the operation. My ifconfig statement looks like the following:
>
> ifconfig eth0 myhostname.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MalkContent)
Subject: Reference library
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 04:48:30 GMT
What I'm looking for is a few good reference texts to aquire.:
I don't really care that the man command has info, I need it translated back
into simple english until I'm up to speed.
Thanks all.
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