Linux-Misc Digest #466, Volume #27 Wed, 28 Mar 01 06:13:02 EST
Contents:
difficult pipeline question (Paul)
Re: The death of MS Office? (Noah Roberts)
Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED? (Noah Roberts)
Re: PDF Writer (Noah Roberts)
OT: Three-Tier (Noah Roberts)
Re: bash: what shell variable to set to search for shared libraries (Noah Roberts)
Re: SuSE-7.0, get rid of the nfslockdsvc failure message? (Noah Roberts)
Re: Shelling into WinNT (Noah Roberts)
Re: default path (Noah Roberts)
Re: ssh to linux/unix from windows (Noah Roberts)
Re: difficult pipeline question ("Harlan Grove")
Re: Newbie Question about GUI (Noah Roberts)
Re: iptables under 2.4.2 (Noah Roberts)
Re: PDF Writer (Dowe Keller)
Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*( ("Gregg Black")
Re: Gnome installation question... (Noah Roberts)
Re: difficult pipeline question (Biogod)
Re: The death of MS Office? (fred smith)
Re: On-demand dialing (fred smith)
Windows Media and Linux? (Sean)
Re: Windows Media and Linux? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
3Com drivers (Ean WS)
Re: installing linux ignoring a swap partition (Massimiliano Caovilla)
strange file metamorphose (pirxmcci)
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From: Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: difficult pipeline question
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:12:37 -0800
Hi, how do you make a single pipe from the following 2 separate command
lines:
[command line #1:] ls -l filename | cut -c5-7
[command line #2:] tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'
I can use the "tee" command to make a new file for the pipe.
I'm taking an online beginning Linux class. What is especially hard for
me to understand is how to pool so that only one pipeline is used. So
my first question: is a single pipeline just "|", or can the whole
command include several pipes, which form single "pipeline"?
While someone showing just the right answer would be a nice thing for
she/he to do, explaining HOW they went about it, so that I could learn,
would be especially helpful. That way too, I might get some partial
credit for the answer. I will be letting teacher know if I couldn't
get the whole answer myself, and that's better than not having one at
all. (Useful websites where I might be able to deduce future answers on
my own from the site's provided information, would also be appreciated.)
Thank you.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:32:16 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:15:06 -0600, Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Steve Lamb"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:03:16 -0700, Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>How do you turn it off?
>
> >> View / Integrated Desktop. It still looks the same except it doesn't
> >> take over the whole screen, it is just a windowed app at that point.
>
> >Could you explain that in more detail?
>
> No. I fail to see how I can expand upon the instructions "View /
> Integrated Desktop".
The problem with StarOffice is that it is a slow, memory hoging, POS. I think it
has something to do with the language used to make the monster.....which will
probbaly not be easy to fix.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:35:38 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Might my 3C509 be DEFERRED?
>
> I'd prefer to do the networking startup right rather than hack it.
edit /etc/rc.d/network so that it runs the commands you do to make the net
come up instead of using stupid linuxconf.
Problem with RH users is they are just too damn lazy :P
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:38:04 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PDF Writer
Jon Rook wrote:
> Can anyone direct me to an editor that can output in PDF format. If
> that's not available, a utility that can translate a text or word
> processing file into PDF would also work. I've been looking all over
> with no luck thus far.
Anything in linux can be used to create a pdf file. Print the file (most
programs print to ps and will save the printout to a file) and then run
ps2pdf on the resulting ps file.
I do this all the time when I need to print stuff on the schools
lazerjet.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:23:13 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: Three-Tier
I see the buzz word all over the place, but have no idea what it means.
I was reading an article that described 3-tier as a web server system
that looked like:
Client/Browser----Web Server-----database
Is that really what this is????? I have been doing that for a long
time...but I haven't applied for jobs that wanted 3-tier exp because I
had no clue what they meant :P
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:24:41 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bash: what shell variable to set to search for shared libraries
"P. Eric Chi" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In csh, we can "setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH ..." to set the path to search for
> shared libraries. What shell variable should I set in bash? Thanks very
> much,
same, you just have to learn sh sysntax.
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.....
>
>
> Eric.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:38:30 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: SuSE-7.0, get rid of the nfslockdsvc failure message?
"G. Hugh Song" wrote:
> I am using the SuSE-7.0 distribution of Linux.
> During the boot procedure, nfslockdsvc fails, although
> nfsserver still works after the boot.
>
> How can I make this situation clean?
uninstall nfs.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:28:12 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shelling into WinNT
Neil Zanella wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Is it possible to use GNU Cygwin or something similar to set up Win2K
> so that one can shell into it in the same way one can telnet or shh
> to a Linux box?
install telnetd or sshd in the win2k box......
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:40:10 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: default path
lenny wrote:
> In article <u6mv6.28343$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "lenny"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Where do I set the default path used at startup. Thanks.
> > Lenny
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thanks everyone
> I was refering to path as in $PATH
> Using Red Hat
> And the winning response is
> /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
uhh....no.
your PATH is set in your shell config files....ie profile and bashrc.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:44:11 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ssh to linux/unix from windows
ThanhVu Nguyen wrote:
> hi,
>
> is there a freesource program that allows me to telnet or connect to a
> linux/unix machine and be able to run X on it ? I know Hummingbird's
> Exceed can do it but its' a commercial program ?
>
> thanks for your inputs
Do a websearch for win32 X Server.
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From: "Harlan Grove" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: difficult pipeline question
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 07:46:04 GMT
Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, how do you make a single pipe from the following 2 separate command
> lines:
> [command line #1:] ls -l filename | cut -c5-7
> [command line #2:] tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'
ls -l filename | cut -c5-7 | tr A-Z a-z
Next time experiment. As for an explanation, better you should buy a book
about one of the various Unix/Linux shells and read it. Pipes are VERY basic
in Unix/Linux, and if you're taking a course on this, either you haven't been
doing the reading, paying attention in lectures, or it's a very poor course.
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:58:14 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Question about GUI
The R wrote:
> I've just completed an installation of RedHat Linux 7.0 but when the system
> finishes booting up I'm taken to the command prompt to log into the system,
> after which I can only use the few commands that I know.
>
> I would like to run a GUI so that I can interact with the command screen
> through a terminal window..
>
> How do I start the GUI ?
>
> Any help would greatly be appreciated...
the commands that will help you
man man
man apropos
makewhatis (RH doesn't do this during instal :P)
info
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:02:44 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: iptables under 2.4.2
Daryl Fonseca-Holt wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Mar 2001 02:43:35 -0500, Nick Traxler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >But I can't figure
> >out iptables, and I don't really have time right now to pore
> >over the manpage or **try to customize someone's long
> >rc.firewall script.**
[snip over 200 lines of bash code firewall scipt]
Did I miss something here? :P
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dowe Keller)
Subject: Re: PDF Writer
Date: 28 Mar 2001 00:03:39 -0800
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:38:04 -0800, Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jon Rook wrote:
>Anything in linux can be used to create a pdf file. Print the file (most
>programs print to ps and will save the printout to a file) and then run
>ps2pdf on the resulting ps file.
Most distros come with the tools necessary to generate any output
format.
I use SGML tools a lot, from the same source file, I can produce:
* HTML
* Postscript
* pdf
* text
* and info documents.
What more could you ask for? Before you answer, check freshmeat to
make sure there isn't a foo2bar converter that translates from your
favorite documentation markup language to your favorite output type.
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From: "Gregg Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Frustrating basic printer service problems! :*(
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:22:50 -0800
I posted earlier about trying to print to my Epson Stylus Color ESC P2.
Well, I'm still having this trouble, but I think the problem runs deeper
than just being this specific printer.
As earlier, I can redirect standard out to the device /dev/lp0, but I cannot
use LPR, or any other print function that takes advantage of the standard
print system. I really don't care if I use LPD or CUPS, but I would like to
get either to work period. I read through the chapter on managing print
devices, viewed and edited the /etc/printcap file and all pointers are fine.
Let me ask one thing first.
Should the LPR utility work with printing if your daemon is either LPD or
CUPS? Anyhow, when I try to direct a job to lpr (IE: lptest | lpr) I get
this error: lpr:error - no default destination available. The book goes
over killing and restarting the LPD daemon. What's really strange here is
when typing lpd, it returns to the prompt, but when checking the processes
(ps) it doesn't show up!! What's going on?! I can't kill it if it's not
active. I would expect this is part of the problem. My sd pointer is to
the right existing que /var/spool/lpd/fred.
I would really appreciate if someone here could give me their step by step
instructions for setting up and testing printer services for both LPD and
CUPS! That would help me a great deal to know I'm not doing something
insanely stupid (which wouldn't bother me in the least if I found out I was
doing!).
One other thing. I have the line in the /etc/printcap file for specifying
the standard err log (:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\), but why isn't this error
with LPR showing up there?
Thanks once again for all your help.
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:09:55 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome installation question...
Elf Sternberg wrote:
> I've looked, and I'm tired of looking. Is there a way to just
> get a list of all of the components of gnome 1.2 or (preferably) gnome
> 1.4rc1, with their sizes and CRCs, *in the order necessary to make all
> of the dependencies succeed?*. Such a document would be invaluable to
> those of us trying to install it using source.
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
I think that the Gnome people must purposely make it a PITA to compile
Gnome from source. Not only is a list of files and dependencies NOT
available, but the packages needed are not even located in a central area
(some aren't even on the same server!). To top it off....even if the
configure script makes it through you may or may not have the
dependencies required.....I eventually gave up when the configure worked
and then a compile failed over some undefined structure element (which
usually means the libs don't match the build)...
Even if you get it to compile....it will probbaly NOT work right. I just
count myself lucky that it didn't majorly break anything on THIS box (the
other required a complete whipe and rebuild)
Yep....I think the gnome people have a lot to learn about making software
that compiles easily :P
Have fun and....good luck....you'll need it :P
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From: Biogod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: difficult pipeline question
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 02:33:57 -0500
Paul wrote:
> Hi, how do you make a single pipe from the following 2 separate command
> lines:
> [command line #1:] ls -l filename | cut -c5-7
> [command line #2:] tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'
> I can use the "tee" command to make a new file for the pipe.
> I'm taking an online beginning Linux class. What is especially hard for
> me to understand is how to pool so that only one pipeline is used. So
> my first question: is a single pipeline just "|", or can the whole
> command include several pipes, which form single "pipeline"?
> While someone showing just the right answer would be a nice thing for
> she/he to do, explaining HOW they went about it, so that I could learn,
> would be especially helpful. That way too, I might get some partial
> credit for the answer. I will be letting teacher know if I couldn't
> get the whole answer myself, and that's better than not having one at
> all. (Useful websites where I might be able to deduce future answers on
> my own from the site's provided information, would also be appreciated.)
>
> Thank you.
uh...ls -l [filename] | cut -c5-7|tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'...you can string as
many pipes as you want, as far as I know
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The death of MS Office?
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:54:00 GMT
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: On Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:03:16 -0700, Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>How do you turn it off?
: View / Integrated Desktop. It still looks the same except it doesn't take
: over the whole screen, it is just a windowed app at that point.
Hmmm...
The only things I see on the view pulldown are:
explorer
beamer
toolbars
fullscreen
nowhere there is there a "integrated desktop" thingie. Are you referring
to SO 5.2??
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---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
The Lord detests the way of the wicked
but he loves those who pursue righteousness.
============================= Proverbs 15:9 (niv) =============================
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: On-demand dialing
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:58:46 GMT
Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi
: I have set up IP masquerade on Red Hat Linux 7.
<snip>
: How do i do this setup?
Check out diald. Kind of a pain to set up, but it works pretty well.
You should be able to find it at diald.sourceforge.net.
Fred
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---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this:
While we were still sinners,
Christ died for us.
=============================== Romans 5:8 (niv) ==============================
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From: Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Windows Media and Linux?
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:30:07 -0000
I have searched through google.com/linux and had no luck finding a linux
media player that can handle Windows Media.
I take it that none exist?
Please prove me wrong!
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows Media and Linux?
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 08:38:34 GMT
Sean wrote:
>
> I have searched through google.com/linux and had no luck finding a linux
> media player that can handle Windows Media.
>
> I take it that none exist?
Thats correct.
I'm currently working on reverse engineering the format but I have
a limited amount of time to devote to this.
Erik
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Q: How do you stop a Windows NT machine from crashing?
A: Shut it down and switch it off.
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From: Ean WS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comps.os.linux.networking
Subject: 3Com drivers
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 21:48:06 -0400
Hi All,
I have a HP Omnibook 900C with a 3CCFE575CT pcmcia network card. I am
using RedHat 7.
I cannot make the thing work. The machine has to be reset if I start
pcmcia.
I think the problem is with the driver or some archane set-up of pcmcia.
Does anybody out there know?
Laters
Ean
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From: Massimiliano Caovilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: installing linux ignoring a swap partition
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 10:40:22 GMT
Yvan Loranger wrote:
> Temporarily redefine your solaris as type 'anything but 82', say 6 or 83,
> then reinstall linux. (Boot with floppy/cdrom if necessary.)
I tried, but my solaris partition got corrupted :-(
Is there a way to officialy tell anaconda to ignore /dev/hda2?
Thank you very much
Massi
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From: pirxmcci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: strange file metamorphose
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:04:49 +0200
Normal files or directories switch to charakter or block devices without
any reason. Moreover I am (root) not allowed to remove this devices.
They look like that:
drwx------ 2 jesko users 4096 Dez 2 1999 ktimeclock
drwx------ 2 jesko users 4096 Dez 9 1999 kwebwatch
br-sr-xrwt 1 1536 29810 10, 0 Sep 18 2028 kwm <------?????
What's that?
The only way to remove this files is debugfs, and this is the most dirtiest
way. The first thought I had was, the disk is defective. I download a disk
checker from seagate but everything is fine. That is very strange to me but
WHAT IS IT??
Jesko
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