Linux-Networking Digest #498, Volume #11 Fri, 11 Jun 99 19:14:41 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!! (Yuki Taga)
Help! Cannot use the gateway (another linux) (S P Arif Sahari Wibowo)
Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!! (Yuki Taga)
Re: Help! Cannot use the gateway (another linux) ("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: SOHO fast eithernet kit and linux ("Jim & Toni Dibb")
Re: Load balancing ("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!! ("Ian")
Re: What is listening on Port "1", Protocol "RAW"? (RDO) (Malware)
Re: Server locks up intermittently ("Steve Waldo")
Re: linux RH 6.0 +Earthlink dialup troubles ("Douglas S. Oliver")
Re: HUGE wait when telnetting, ftping, etc to my linux box
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape / proxy q ("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!!
Re: Can I connect to X from W95? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yuki Taga)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:24:09 GMT
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:26:06 -0700, in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>>I'm afraid you're the one who is dreaming. It happens thousands if not tens of
>>thousands of times daily around this planet. How do you think they got 250-300
>>million units (conservative estimate) installed? Consultants? Tech support?
>>Don't make me giggle.
>
> Experts did most of the installs. Those installs were pretty
> much forced on the market, being the only option available
> in many places, through OEM coercion and legacy app and API
> lock in.
I think you're right and wrong. You're right that the OEM deal is a great deal
for M$, and certainly it contributes greatly to the number of installed system.
But it wasn't forced on the market -- at least until it was pretty clear that's
what the market was indeed demanding <g>. Those OEMs would not have been able
to sell hundreds of millions of computers with an OS on them that no one
wanted. Remember, M$ tried to force *other* products on the OEMs by
threatening to *withold* Windows, which the OEMs would not have been able to
stand.
But at this point, I retire from this argument. It's getting pretty far astray
from networking. <vbg> I've said my piece, which is that Linux is still a
long way away from any significant desktop usage. Some people disagree, and
say it's coming soon. But I heard the same argument 2 years ago. Maybe from
the same people. <g> In any case, Linux is no closer to a desktop player
today than it was 2 years ago.
Yuki ^_^
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From: S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Help! Cannot use the gateway (another linux)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:25:17 -0500
Hi!
Here the setup of my system:
There is one machine running Redhat 5.1 acting as a gateway (doing IP
maquerading, firewalling, etc) for the local network. There is several NT
machines using it as gateway and everything works fine.
Then I set up another machine with Redhat 6.0. I set it up to use the
first box as gateway. I can ping the first box, I can telnet to it, etc.
using the local network IP, but the second machine cannot reach the "real"
IP of the first machine and obviously cannot reach the internet.
I set the IP of the second machine in the same IP pools for the NTs, so it
already set up in the host.allow of the first machine. I setup the second
machine to use the first machine as the default gateway.
Do you have any idea what is wrong here?
Thank you.
Any help will be appreciated, thanks.
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
_____ _____ _____ _____
/____ /____/ /____/ /____ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
_____/ / / / _____/ http://spas.8m.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yuki Taga)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:29:36 GMT
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:41:14 -0400, in article
<Pine.OSF.4.05.9906101422150.722-100000@banyan>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I use StarOffice. It's got a decent spreadsheet program.
Yeah. <grin> But let's face it, that interface and suite have a waaaaays to
go to catch Office. <vbg> But for free <!> it's fantastic.
>The manager over there, my mother, is actually begging for Linux because
>she pines for a command line interface. Windows is too confusing for her.
With all due respect to your mother . . . she knows not what she pines for.
<g> If she thinks Windows is confusing, she's going to be **lost** in Linux.
*This* is the best one I've heard in a while. (I'm sure your mother is a very
nice and very intelligent person, BTW.)
Yuki ^_^
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Help! Cannot use the gateway (another linux)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:50:41 -0700
Hello,
Can you please include the output of your netstat -rn and ifconfig -a
commands from both Linux machines.
Thank you
PS. If you are worried about including real address just replace them with
fake numbers (as long as they are consistent!).
S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi!
>
> Here the setup of my system:
>
> There is one machine running Redhat 5.1 acting as a gateway (doing IP
> maquerading, firewalling, etc) for the local network. There is several NT
> machines using it as gateway and everything works fine.
>
> Then I set up another machine with Redhat 6.0. I set it up to use the
> first box as gateway. I can ping the first box, I can telnet to it, etc.
> using the local network IP, but the second machine cannot reach the "real"
> IP of the first machine and obviously cannot reach the internet.
>
> I set the IP of the second machine in the same IP pools for the NTs, so it
> already set up in the host.allow of the first machine. I setup the second
> machine to use the first machine as the default gateway.
>
> Do you have any idea what is wrong here?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Any help will be appreciated, thanks.
>
> S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
> _____ _____ _____ _____
> /____ /____/ /____/ /____ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> _____/ / / / _____/ http://spas.8m.com/
>
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From: "Jim & Toni Dibb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SOHO fast eithernet kit and linux
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:00:14 -0400
Thanks Greg. Its reported as NDC 10/100 Fast Ether PCI Adapter (MX-A). The
main driver apears to be FE100A.SYS. It is reported by the Tulip driver at
powerup as a compatible card Macronix... (dont remember exactly right now).
Actually with new driver behavior changed a little. Now when I do
'ifconfig eth0 on' or off the ifconfig command seems to hang. Maybe my
setup is off, but I never get a 'link' light... oh the link light is on
until the module loads, then its off forever.
Thanks anyone with another clue.
Greg Fruth wrote in message <7jrjdf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <7jpvr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Jim & Toni Dibb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>The SOHOware card I have is based on a Macronix (MXIC or MXIX) chipset
which
>is compatible with the DEC tulip...
>
> http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html
>
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Load balancing
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:33:34 -0700
Dear Raymond!
Did you bother to actually READ my question?
If you are just playing and showing off, please don't reply to people who
are trying get serious help from knowledgeable Linux users!
Thank you
Raymonds Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It's pretty striaght forward to create a FreeEqualizer with C or Perl.
Just
> register the servers in a host file let the let the FreeQualizer check the
> load on the servers each 30 sec's and then redirect the packet to the
leased
> loaded server. Socks lib will help you with that ;-)
>
> Raymond
>
> Andrey Smirnov wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > Does anyone know about solution on Linux that allows to perform TCP/IP
load
> > balancing (not DNS round-robin!)?
> >
> > Something similar to CISCO's LocalDirector.
> >
> > Thank you
>
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From: "Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!!
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:11:21 +1200
If MS Money does the job for you, you still have a way to go on the "lot of
money" stakes.
I gave up years ago and got a good accountant. That way I can spend more
time earning money and less worrying about tax issues. Paying less than 1%
of my income to get at least 6% extra back is well worth it.
Ian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<7jpf07$l68$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <P3K73.1416$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Jeremiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yuki Taga) spake thusly:
>
>> I agree, but it serves my purposes. Besides, why would a home
>>user need a "professional app"?
>
>I'm a home user, but I still have major tax issues. A home user with
>a lot of money, assets, investments, needs good personal finance software.
>Anything short of Rock-Solid is not good enough when the risks are high.
>--
>James
>http://ssdd.conservatory.com
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From: Malware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is listening on Port "1", Protocol "RAW"? (RDO)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:33:37 +0200
Hi Capt. Tuttle,
you wrote:
> being offered on the network, I noticed that something was listening on
> port #1, Protocol "RAW". What is this? Do I need to take any security
> precautions?
There should be even someone listening on port 6 of the same protocol.
When I got this correctly from the source this are control-sockets for
the ICMP (1) and TCP (6) protocols.
Malware
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From: "Steve Waldo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Server locks up intermittently
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:32:03 -0500
I started a process that pings another machine in the area every 5 minutes.
Now I can always get in. But that's a hack. Does this give anyone any clues?
--Steve
Steve Waldo wrote:
I've set up a server using RH 6.0 ... Sometimes, though, it becomes
inaccessible. Can't telnet in, and it doesn't respond to pings. After a
reboot it comes back to life. More curiously, it sometimes comes back to
life without being rebooted, only to go back to its frozen mode later.
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From: "Douglas S. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.help,linux.redhat.misc,earthlink.tech-support.other_dialup_software,earthlink.Unix-Hangout
Subject: Re: linux RH 6.0 +Earthlink dialup troubles
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:40:04 -0700
Earthlink News Support wrote:
While you're in this setup program, which works very well, be sure to check the box
that
allows any user to use the connection; otherwise you will need to be root to connect.
This program writes all of your scripts for you. You can go to those scripts later to
see
what has been done. Good luck -- d
> Trevor,
>
> The following steps will allow you to connect to Earthlink with Red
> Hat Linux (X Windows):
>
> 1. Start your X session by typing startx at your shell prompt.
> 2. Click somewhere in the root window and open the Red Hat Control
> Panel from the pop-up menu. Or, open an xterm and type control-panel &
> (type the "&" symbol) then press enter.
> 3. Open the Modem icon in the Control Panel window.
> 4. Select your modem's device location (cua0=COM1; cua1=COM2;
> cua2=COM3; cua3=COM4)
> 5. Click OK to save your settings.
> 6. Open the Network icon.
> 7. Click the Name button and enter the following:
>
> Domain: earthlink.net
> Name Server: 207.217.126.81 (if you can enter a second DNS address,
> enter 207.217.77.82)
>
> 8. Click the Interface button, then click Add. Select PPP and click OK
> (you're adding ppp0).
> 9. Enter the following information:
>
> User: ELN/your_username
> Password: your_password
>
> 10. Highlight ppp0 and click Edit, then set your modem speed:
>
> 14.4k modem: 38400bps
> 28.8k modem: 57600bps
> 33.6k modem: 57600bps
> 56k modem: 115200bps
>
> Communications:
>
> Init: AT&F or AT&F1 if you do not know the proper initialization
> string for your modem.
> Phone Number: enter your local EarthLink access number
> Select Modem: select your installed modem
> Click the Network button in the Control Panel.
> MTU: 576 (you can experiment with MTU=1500, also).
>
> 11. Click the Interface tab.
>
> To connect, highlight ppp0 and click Activate. To disconnect, click
> De-Activate.
>
> To check your connection, open an xterm and type tail -f
> /var/log/messages
> Check that you have been assigned an IP address and that no error
> messages are reported.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:05:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trevor
> Smithson) wrote:
>
> >Hi everyone,
> >
> >I've been trying for the last couple of days to get my new RedHat
> >installation (6.0) to dial in to Earthlink. So far, no success.
> >Everything is ok with Windows + Earthlink, so I'm sure the problem
> >is a setting somewhere that I just haven't found. I'm a linux newbie
> >so please cut me a little slack!
> >
> >So far I've just tried to use the linuxconf utility to set everything
> >up. I have the domain name and primary and secondary DNS
> >servers defined. I changed the default modem init string to the
> >same one that Win 95 uses. I have hardware flow control
> >activated, line speed set to 57,600, no PPP options, and the
> >modem port is set to /dev/modem.
> >
> >The modem dials out ok and makes a connection, or at least it
> >attempts to make a connection. I think the most likely source
> >of the problem is in the chat setup I have, which is:
> >
> >expect: login:
> >
> >send: username
> >
> >expect: Password:
> >
> >send: password
> >
> >I can step through the login process in Windows where I manually
> >input my username and password, and everything works fine.
> >DUN indicates that is is using CHAP as an auth. protocol.
> >Do I need to setup linux to do this?
> >
> >I'm kind of at a loss as to what to do next. I'd be glad to dig out
> >any logs or scipts that anybody thinks should be checked.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Trevor Smithson
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> News Support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> EarthLink Network, Inc.
>
> Useful Information:
>
> EarthLink Home: http://www.earthlink.net/
> EarthLink Help Page: http://help.earthlink.net/
> The EarthLink FAQ: http://www.earthlink.net/internet/faq/
> Tech Support Request:
>http://help.earthlink.net/techsupport/request_form/support.html
>
> 24-hour support is available by phone at (800) 395-8410.
--
*>Douglas S. Oliver<*
*>[EMAIL PROTECTED]<*
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HUGE wait when telnetting, ftping, etc to my linux box
Date: 11 Jun 1999 16:12:05 -0500
Reply-To: "J.L.M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In article <5Xa83.155$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
James Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Why is there a HUGE wait when telnetting, ftping, etc to my linux box? I
>mean, when I telnet from my win98 pc that is attached via 10mb ethernet,
>it's as long as if I tried to connect from some other location on the other
>side of the planet....
Is it the same when you use IP Address as Name?
How is your linux box resolving names? Is your /etc/resolv.conf
correct? Does /etc/hosts have localhost and perhaps the name and
IP of your win98 box? What does traceroute or ping tell you?
If the problem is not routing, its dns.
When you say "telnetting, ftping, etc", these are the authenticated,
stateful, tcp protocols. Try ping also, to see if the results are the
same for a different family.
The host is eventually connecting, yes? Just slow?
--
James
http://ssdd.conservatory.com
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Netscape / proxy q
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:43:11 -0700
Check the security settings on Proxy server. It could be when you are using
MS (not basic or anonymous) security on proxy, and Netscape does not support
this type of authenication.
Also (just a frendly advice) you may think about updating your Proxy 1.0 to
2.0, 1.0 has a lot of bugs fixed in 2.0.
Good luck!
David Eno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:cw683.21$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Yes. I used the IP address of our Proxy server, along with the port
number
> for FTP, html proxy settings. These settings work with ie4.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Dave E.
>
> John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > David Eno wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to run Netscape on a Red Hat 5.2 box that's connected to
our
> NT 4
> > > network running MS Proxy v 1.
> > >
> > > I set the obvious proxy settings in Netscape. When I try to go to a
> site,
> > > the messages '(site) contacted. Waithing for reply' and 'connecting to
> > > (proxy IP)' flash back and forth repeatedly at the bottom the the
> screen.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
> >
> > What were the "obvious" settings you used? Did they include
> > both an address and a port number?
> >
> > --
> >
> > -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux can't be a big role...???!!!
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:04:04 -0700
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:24:09 GMT, Yuki Taga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:26:06 -0700, in article
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>
[deletia]
>But at this point, I retire from this argument. It's getting pretty far astray
>from networking. <vbg> I've said my piece, which is that Linux is still a
>long way away from any significant desktop usage. Some people disagree, and
>say it's coming soon. But I heard the same argument 2 years ago. Maybe from
>the same people. <g> In any case, Linux is no closer to a desktop player
>today than it was 2 years ago.
You must be joking, even major commercial games are getting
ported to Linux now. There are 3 major desktop projects as
well as other efforts to replicate the basic classes
applications that most users use.
Your assertion just plain absurd. It sounds like the 'its gotta
be DOS compatible' mutterings of 10 years ago, people ignoring
faster, cheaper and/or easier just because it wasn't the dominant
brand.
The real question is would GNOME or KDE and some other apps
satisfy some user foo and how many of those foo's are really
out there. For the desktop, that number is certainly growing.
Software creates a certain inertia that few other markets posses.
Use foo today and your data may be foo-locked tomorrow such that
you can't suddenly use bar. This is as true for the user as it the
developer. It creates a barrier to choice that most actual consumers
(rather than some idealized consumer) aren't willing to breach.
That's why an SDL or gtk is useful. It allows for other OSes and
other architectures to be exploited with minmal effort. It removes
most of the proprietary api/data vendorlock.
[deletia]
The nice thing is, due to beasts such as SDL or gtk, the storming
of the Bastille when it finally comes won't be merely limited to
Unix users. One tyrannt won't just replace another.
--
bash: the power to toast your registry in style... |||
/ | \
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Can I connect to X from W95?
Date: 11 Jun 1999 22:04:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Martin Filtenborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It's said that X can display output on another machine on the network, but
>everyone seems to assume that the remote machine is a Linux-box.
You can display an X app on a MS-Win machine if you get an X server for your
MS-Win (or other OS) machine. I do this all the time and it works fine.
My web site lists a couple of dozen X servers for MS-Win.
--
Ken Lee, http://www.rahul.net/kenton/
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