Right on, Scott.  That procedure worked perfectly.  One small hitch:
I used {pop3server/pop3/user=popuserid}INBOX and found out the hard
way that my "pop3.server" was not mail.servername, but
mulder.servername.  Who knows what 'mulder' means.  This stuff never
ceases to mystify and amaze, especially when you succeed at
something.

Thanks to all for the good help.  Incidentally I downloaded the Pine
Tech notes from the Univ.of Washington site.  They gave substantially
the same explanation.

Another great discovery re Pine for me:
        Enable the alternate editor in your config file.  Then when
Pico is not enough, do a ^_ and go to emacs and edit your message
properly.

        Now here's another question re Pine:  Is it possible to 
immediately save your inbox (en toto) to your own machine rather than
one message at a time?  I get lots of mail, and before I can deal with
it all I've lost my connection, and may not be able to get back for a
while.  Some of these ISP's are too busy, you know.


Larry

On Thu, 3 Sep 1998, Taylor, Scott J wrote:

> Boy am I on a roll here..
> 
> A quote from the http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html page
> 
> snip--
> 1.10 Can Pine be used with a POP server?
> Versions of PC-Pine prior to 4.00 cannot be used with a POP (Post Office
> Protocol) server. With Unix Pine, and with PC-Pine 4.00, you can access
> a POP server in "online" mode. That is, Pine will start a POP3 session
> and keep it open until the mailbox is closed. Due to the nature of the
> POP3 protocol, Pine will not see any new mail which arrives during the
> POP3 session. 
> To access the message INBOX on a POP3 server, use the folder definition
> syntax:
>         {pop3server/pop3}INBOX
> or, especially useful if your POP account user-id is different from the
> one in your Pine configuration:
>         {pop3server/pop3/user=popuserid}INBOX
> where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server, and popuserid your
> user-id for your POP account. However, this method accesses the POP
> server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed
> for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve
> changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between
> sessions. 
> As an alternative, a program such as fetchmail (which supercedes
> popclient) can be used to download email from a POP server to a local
> Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. fetchmail can be
> obtained from: http://locke.ccil.org/~esr/fetchmail/
> <http://locke.ccil.org/esr/fetchmail/> 
> --snip
> HTH,
> Scott
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Larry Clayton [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Thursday, September 03, 1998 6:33 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    Need help retrieving mail with Pine
> > 
> > Thanks for all those who have helped me get a mail program going.
> > 
> > I've been able to use Pine to send mail and to access and read news,
> > but so far I haven't hit on the appropriate configuration to retrieve
> > mail from my isp.  Any help appreciated.
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/9793/
> 
> 
> 

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