Linux-Setup Digest #65, Volume #19 Mon, 3 Jul 00 19:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Ethernet without router. (Homer Jay)
X-Windows on Compaq Presario 5000 series PIII/700 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Can't make ("JM")
Re: SUSE 6.3 (or *.4?) --ran out of input data :-( ("JM")
Re: Can't get modem detected ("Theodore J. Mooney")
Re: Seti@home behind firewall?? ("David ..")
Re: how to change the resolution on Xwindows? (J Bland)
Re: SUSE 6.3 (or *.4?) --ran out of input data :-( (Ioannis Thavoris)
Re: What is the best distribution of Linux? ("Gonzo")
Lexmark/IBM ExecJet IIc in Mandrake 7.1 ("Gonzo")
Re: Windows 2000 & Linux (Rod Smith)
Changed from Storm to Mandrake-have some new questions ("Theodore J. Mooney")
Re: Intial setup of RH 6.2 (Michal Fikejs)
Re: You have mail, when I don't. (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo
=?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?=)
zero byte file left in print queue (Parker Dubberke)
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From: Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ethernet without router.
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 21:09:24 GMT
> I'm wiring my house for a 3 node Ethernet network. I have a router and
> the network running fine with the wire on the floor right now. The
> thought occurred to me: is it possible for me to splice into a single
> wire and thus not have to have a router? Coax does this right now,
> right? This is a short distance network, < 50 ft. I was thinking that I
> could have a splice at the wall plate and continue it onto the next wall
> plate. Shouldn't this work? It works with cross-over cable on a two node
> network. If this doesn't work, then why not? Curious minds want to know.
Do you mean "router" or "hub"? Two _entirely_ different things.
Assuming you mean hub (cough), there are no 3-way crossover cables
because you must connect the output wire of machine A to the input
wire of machine B, and how then will you get the output wire of
A connected to the input wires of both B and C? You could paintakingly
splice the wire correctly, taking care to do it so well that it does
not cause unacceptable interence, or you can just use a HUB!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: X-Windows on Compaq Presario 5000 series PIII/700
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 21:11:45 GMT
I just bought a Compaq 5000 series Pentium III/700 system, largely
because I was quite impressed by its display performance. Here's what
the Compaq web site has to say about the system:
http://athome.compaq.com/family_details.asp?ProductLineId=441&FamilyId=655#
I took it home, and discovered SuperProbe could not identify the video
card. It claims to be an AGP card, but is apparently motherboard based
and uses the RAM on the motherboard. You can get from 1-11mb video RAM.
I got the system working by putting in a PCI card (the ATI@work), but
frankly it's just not up to snuff in terms of speed. I'd like to see
this system work to its full potential (which I think is quite high).
Anyone know what video card this system uses, or if there's a driver for
it anywhere? If there is no driver, anyone have recommendations for
upgrading the system to a faster card? I use big monitors (a NEC XP21),
so the more memory and processing speed the better.
Many thanks for any thoughts.
D
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From: "JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't make
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:38:54 -0400
When you extracted the kernel source files they should have went to a
subdirectory of /tmp (probably linux). You have to run "make config" or
"make menuconfig" after changing to that subdirectory with "cd /tmp/linux".
Hope this helps, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8jppqn$98o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Installing sources in /tmp, I try to recompile
> my kernel with no success.
> I get the message:
> make: *** No rule to make target 'Config'. Stop.
>
> What is the problem?
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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From: "JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SUSE 6.3 (or *.4?) --ran out of input data :-(
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:45:10 -0400
It could be that the install modified your kernel. When the kernel is
modified, lilo needs to be re-run before rebooting. I believe you can boot
up with the install cdrom and at the boot prompt type "linux root=/dev/hda0"
(or whatever partition your linux is in). Then run just type "lilo" to
re-run lilo and your problem should be corrected. There is a post in this
newsgroup I think that talks about updating the kernel then forgetting to
run lilo with the same procedure listed. Hope this helps, John
"Ioannis Thavoris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I was trying to install my sound card (sb awe 64) and the appropriate
> module (snd-card-sbawe.o) was missing since I hadn't installed it at the
> first instalation. I decided to search the suse ftp site and I found the
> module to be part of the k_deflt.rpm, k_eide, ... etc packages in the
> directory ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/suse/images/ .
>
> So, what I did, I downloaded the k_deflt.rpm package and I ran it as
> root (using the kpackage) and just "upgrate" it !!!!!! ;-( .
> (Notice that k_deflt.rpm is from the 6.4 distribution while I have 6.3).
> Still I couldn't install the card with yast2: the module was missing.
> Then I though this maybe is due to the version incompatibility and I
> found the same module in the alsa.rpm package at
> ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/6.3/suse/snd1/ , ran it again as root
> and I "succeeded " !!!
>
> ... or I though I did, because when I rebooted my PC I was faced
> with the message
>
> ran out of input data
> -- system halded
>
> That wasn't a plain kernel panic; that was worse than a dissaster. I
> believe it should be easy? to recover my system but I have no certain
> and safe idea how. Since I haven't made a backup for two months now, I
> cannot take the risk to experiment again (Why I didn't think this
> before ????????).
> Let me know what I can do
>
> Regards
> -Io
>
>
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From: "Theodore J. Mooney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't get modem detected
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 16:45:43 -0500
Thanks, but I dumped the Storm Linux, so I don't need it
any more.
I have some new questions for the Mandrake I installed
so I'll be posting a new message about it.
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Format drive C: - Are you SURE (Y/Y)?
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"E J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Did you install minicom during the installation?
> $ which minicom
> /usr/bin/minicom
> or
> $ locate minicom
> If not, go to your distribution linux CD and install it.
>
> "Theodore J. Mooney" wrote:
>
> > Run Minicom from the command line?
> > Gives no such command error.
> >
> > --
> > ========================================================
> > The views, opinions, or statements stated above or below
> > are not necessarily those of the poster. So there! Nyah!
> >
> > ---
> >
> > "Keyboard? How quaint!" - Scotty
> >
> > ========================================================
> >
> > "E J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Here are the defaults:
> > > Com1 uses IRQ 4
> > > Com2 uses IRQ 3
> > > The soundcard uses IRQ5
> > > Doesn't windows give an explaination point
> > > (start->settings->control-panel->system) when it see that Com3 and the
> > > Sound Card are using the same IRQ?
> > > Do you have an old BBS number to dial up?
> > > Try using minicom to see if the modem works with the Com3 port
> > (/dev/ttyS2)
> > > and IRQ5
> > >
>
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Seti@home behind firewall??
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 16:34:34 -0500
David Efflandt wrote:
>
> I had that problem and heard of others with it too, but I am not sure if
> that is a Win98se problem or an MSIE problem. It works fine on my work
> Win95 box going 3000 miles by frame relay to squid proxy on adsl. But
> when I tried it at home on a Win98se laptop, it gave up in about 2
> seconds, long before demand pppd on my Linux MASQ box could dial out. It
> did work when already connected.
>
> However, there seems to be a general problem with Win98se in that MSIE is
> unaware that I am connected to a network, even when Linux is on the
> internet, and always asks "Work Offline" or "Try Again"? It always works
> when I hit "Try Again". It briefly stopped asking that when I updated
> MSIE, but then started doing it again.
>
> I haven't had a chance to try Linux SETI much on my laptop because I can't
> figure out how to shut off the ACPI BIOS screen backlight with apm, but
> 2.4.x kernels support ACPI, so there is hope. The one wu I did do went
> out without a hitch, but I was already connected reading news. SETI works
> fine on my main box using demand pppd and caching nameserver.
Hmmm! Maybe that is part of my problem. I removed IE off of the system
which has windoz 95 on it. ;-)
>From what tcpdump shows it is connecting to the linux box via ethernet
and is suppose to connect through my squid proxy but never makes it to
the modem.
I have Linux setup so that it will stay connected 23.59 Hrs at which
time my ISP cuts me off then it automatically redials in 30 seconds and
is up for another 23.59 Hrs. I run 2 seti's at a time on one of my linux
systems and 1 on another linux box plus the 1 on the CRASH box. The
linux systems send and recieve WU's without any problems though I only
use the text version. I have even shutdown my firewall long enough to
see if maybe it was blocking it but still no luck.
Thanks for the reply.
I'm still stumped??
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Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Bland)
Subject: Re: how to change the resolution on Xwindows?
Date: 3 Jul 2000 21:57:36 GMT
On Mon, 03 Jul 2000 15:35:44 -0400, Xiang Long Huang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I can't use Xconfigurator because I used a vedio card driver which is
>not provided by redhat. Every time I start Xconfigurator the redhat will
>try to change the vedio card config to the one that doesn't work.
>But how to change the resolution, say from 1024x768 to 640x480, without
>using Xconfiguartor then? Thanks
Load /etc/XF86Config into an editor
for the colour depth you run your desktop at (8/16/24/32bit) change the
largest value, eg "1280x1024" to the one you want, eg "800x600".
It's best to keep the smaller ones in there so you can switch between
different resolutions with CTRL-ALT-(+/-).
Frinky
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From: Ioannis Thavoris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SUSE 6.3 (or *.4?) --ran out of input data :-(
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 17:12:07 -0500
Thank you Edwin. Do you have any idea how I can do this?
I had used already a bootdisk but it looks like the installation begins from
scratch (e.g partitions, formating, ... ect).
On the other hand I know what I actually did is that I installed a new kernel
that lilo cannot find, read or/and understand. I am pretty sure that this is
the problem, but I do not know exactly what I have to do to repair it safely.
Edwin Boersma wrote:
> Hello Ioannis,
>
> Looks like your kernel has been f***ed up. If you don't have a working
> kernel in your lilo, than I assume you have a big problem. Make a boot disk,
> boot the machine from disk and try and repair the kernel. Should work.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Edwin
>
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From: "Gonzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is the best distribution of Linux?
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:16:17 -0500
Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:A7Y75.11083$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This is a Linux newbie wanting to install Linux on a Pentium Pro 200 to
> learn Linux.
>
> There is a new Mandrake 7.1 Does anyone know if it installs etc as easily
> as the 7.o has a reputation of doing?
Even easier as you can do a partitionless installation. You can even
install it from within Windows98 by letting your CD-ROM autostart the CD to
install Linux4Win. I found mandrakes partitionless install version of Linux
to be faster than RH6.2.
>
> Also I read that Mandrake is a version of RH, others are versions of
Debian,
> etc. Can some list which are versions of which?
Not sure, but does it really matter? They are all a version of Linux and
some version of features of other versions mixed and mached to make their
own flavour. The Debian core is supposed to be more stable though.
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From: "Gonzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lexmark/IBM ExecJet IIc in Mandrake 7.1
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:21:42 -0500
Anybody get this printer to work in any flavor of Linux? I tried the
postscript printer driver but my printer goes nuts and just flashes when I
try a print test. Really strange.
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 & Linux
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 22:13:55 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <0p185.4049$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"sancho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anyone installed Linux with Windows 2000 on a different partition?
Yes.
> I have Windows 98 on my C: drive and Windows 2000 on my F: drive.
Actually, Win2K is not entirely restricted to your F: drive. Part of it
-- a *VERY* critical part -- is on C:. AFAIK, there's no way to work
around this.
> I would like to delete Win98 and install Linux there.
You can't convert the C: partition entirely to Linux. You can, however,
delete all of Win98, shrink the partition, and install Linux in the
space you've freed up. Unfortunately, I don't know exactly which files
you need to preserve to keep Win2K booting. Alternatively, you can wipe
both the C: and F: partitions and install Win2K on a new C: partition,
then install Linux in what is now F:.
> My understanding is
> with NT loader is that it takes control of the MBR which is on the first
> disk.
Nope. NT's OS Loader resides in the boot sector of the boot partition
(C:).
> If I install Linux on the first disk, will it overwrite the MBR that
> contains Win2000 loader?
Linux will not overwrite the C: boot sector, unless you severely
misconfigure it. Depending upon how you set it up and which distribution
you use, it may or may not write LILO to the MBR.
--
Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.rodsbooks.com
Author of books on Linux networking & multi-OS configuration
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From: "Theodore J. Mooney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changed from Storm to Mandrake-have some new questions
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:16:44 -0500
I couldn't get Storm to recognize my modem on COM2, so I
installed Mandrake 7.0 (I got both CD's with an issue of
Maximum Linux).
I'm glad I switched, as I like Mandrake much better. It also
recognizes the modem on COM2 so I can connect to the Internet.
But there's just one problem. It will dial out and connect to my
ISP and I can run Netscape, but I can't go to any web sites. Anything
I type in returns an error saying the site can't be found. None of the
links in Netscape or the Mandrake web site will work either.
I also have a few other questions (some may be rather stupid, but
I'm new to Linux).
It installed LILO as the boot manager, but I really hate that text thing.
I tried to use Partition Magic's BootMagic to replace it, but it won't
recognize the Linux partition. It says it's there but it's an unknown OS.
I've tried everything I could think of to get it to recognize it, but it
won't. Is there a better version of LILO I can install, or another boot
manager entirely?
This Mandrake has a tendency to keep turning Num Lock on and off
when I boot or shut down. I don't want Num Lock turned on. Is there a
way to disable this?
I have a PS/2 mouse with a scroll wheel, but the driver it installed for
the mouse doesn't work with the wheel. Is there a driver I can get to
replace it so I can use the wheel?
When Mandrake was installing, it said it was installing WINE to use
with Windows programs, but I can't see anything in the programs list
called WINE. Is this a program you have to run, or does it run
automatically if you try to use a Windows program?
And lastly, I'm used to using ACDSee in Windows. There were a couple
of image viewing programs installed, but they don't seem to be anywhere
near as good as ACDSee for viewing and managing image files. What is a
good program?
Thanks for your help, sorry to have so many questions.
-
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are not necessarily those of the poster. So there! Nyah!
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Somebody who calls the number that's scrawled in lipstick on the phone
booth wall - and his wife answers.
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From: Michal Fikejs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intial setup of RH 6.2
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 00:00:12 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Silly Rabbit wrote:
>
> I don't know if the server option has X or not. If not, what is the best
> configuration to use for a newbie? Is there an easy way to change the
> install or are there certain packages that I can just add to get me where I
> need to be? Once I get into X, will I be able to access files from my dos
> partition that I downloaded for linux?
>
Even if you are not in X you can access your dos partition. You just
have to specify it in /etc/fstab.
Michal
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Luis Domingo =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?=
Subject: Re: You have mail, when I don't.
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 22:49:01 GMT
Hi "ne...":
>
> On Jul 3, 2000 at 08:38, Ignacio Valdes eloquently wrote:
>
> >Hello all,
> >
> >When I send an e-mail to a localuser, the e-mail comes across and can be
> >read using Pine. However, the 'You have mail' message that comes up when
> >you log in doesn't ever go away. You can bring up Pine and look for new
> >messages and nothing is there. What gives?
> Take a look at /var/spool/mail/<user>. You'll find
> the reason there.
>
> --
> Registered Linux User # 125653
> BOFH excuse #193:
>
> Did you pay the new Support Fee?
> 11:06am up 5 days, 4:23, 7 users, load average: 0.11, 0.14, 0.09
Another reason for this to happen is when you don't use a mailbox of
type mbox: if, for example, /var/spool/mail/username is a symbolic link
to the user's Maildir mailbox on it's home directory, the file
"/var/spool/mail/username" will be more than 0 bytes long, so some
programs believe there is something on the mailbox when there is
nothing.
Jose Luis Domingo
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From: Parker Dubberke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: zero byte file left in print queue
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 23:05:55 GMT
Hello,
I have set up my Linux machine to print to a Win2k server using TCP/IP
printing. The Win2k server is using LPD to accept print jobs. I can
print to the printer ONCE. This leaves a zero byte file in the print
queue that seems to prevent following jobs from printing. I get this
output:
[root@io lpd]# lpq
io: Warning: no daemon present
Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
1st user 17 (standard input) 0 bytes
Windows 2000 LPD Server
Printer \\192.168.0.102\hp4l
Owner Status Jobname Job-Id Size Pages
Priority
============================================================================
[root@io lpd]#
If I LPRM this job each time I can continue to print. The Owner, Job
and Files output varies depending on who and where the job is printed
from. Does anyone know why this file is left in the queue?
Thanks,
Parker
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