On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 3:25:01 AM UTC+1, Zhao Zhili wrote:
> I'm an employee of allwinner, and I joined this mailing list before joined
> the company. I speak for myself here. I have a Cubieboard2 (I bought it to
> do real-time vibration control as a graduate students.) runing Linux and
> want to playback video on that, and I saw some people have the same idea
> too. I want to find a workable solution, that's all.

Thank you for you introduction. That means that a community member, you, has 
been employed by Allwinner. 

Good luck on your assignment.

> 
> 
> So, if we can get all of the source code from allwinner, and work out the
> complete open source solution, that is the best.
> 
> 
> If we can't, I want to find out just a workable solution. The graphic card
> AMD radeon 545v didn't work well with open source driver until Linux kernel
> 3.13. Before that, I have to use my laptop too, with AMD private driver. It
> seems that no one takes the cedar binaries as a solution, no matter whether
> it has been cleaned of not.

I think the CedarX binaries will be used. The, legal situation, however does 
not compare to the AMD drivers. 

IMO binary software for hardware use is bad in any form. It creates a vendor 
lock in. But that's an other discussion.

LGPL/GPL-ed source-code is free to use to a certain extend. Most important: 
Distributing products/binaries based on that source-codemust to be shipped with 
a copy of the Original licence and humanly readable copy of the Modified 
source-code.

The CedarX is build upon GPL/LGPL code and has been already been 
released/shipped. And as has thus violated the license of that source-code. 
There is no cleaning possible any more. The only viable solution is to release 
all parts of the CedarX code which is based on (L)GPL code, Not just the 
original code but all changes made to it as well.

If the copyright owner(s) of that code, which is not Allwinner. now has the 
power to file import/export prohibition on all devices containing CedarX code. 
Effectively condemning Allwinner to their local market. Until an Chinese 
competitor files a suit against Allwinner for shipping illegal code. Making 
Allwinner very vulnerable.

Luc has done a thorough investigation on the latest CedarX, cleaned, form and 
has found that (L)GPL code still exists in binary form without the required 
License en Source-code copies.

So either CedarX is to havely based on (L)GPL source-code to be separated. Or 
Allwinner does not understand the issue or the possible problems is arises.

The current outcomes are perceived as, bad, attempts to silence the meek. 
Actions that will only fuel the conflict. Intended or not.

> 
> 
> If Cedrus is the only workable solution, I will try to figure out how to 
> contribute to this project.

If I've understand correctly the current direction is v4l2.
http://linux-sunxi.org/VE_Planning

> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 5:03 AM, Manuel Braga <mul....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 23:51:03 +0800 Quink <want...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Sorry Simos, I just want to invite some students in local community
> 
> > to join sunxi
> 
> > and take part in GSOC.
> 
> 
> 
> And everyone are welcome to join sunxi. And the GSOC idea is not bad,
> 
> please do invite students.
> 
> 
> 
> > That email has nothing to do with the CedarX.
> 
> > It's so sad that there are so many misunderstand. If we have more
> 
> 
> 
> I agree, let's resolve this misunderstanding.
> 
> Simos for whatever reason, still didn't make public what he wrote to me
> 
> in our private exchange. And this is making me suspicious.
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe you Quink, could help here.
> 
> By telling, who are you?, and your connection to allwinner?, if any.
> 
> What is you want to do?
> 
> And, what kind of help are expected from linux-sunxi?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > tolerant attitudes, technical discussing should not become a
> 
> > flashpoint, and we can be more
> 
> 
> 
> Your technical question that was made in your last email is unanswered
> 
> because was part of an email that started with a "flashpoint".
> 
> Let's keep the technical discussing, separated from "flashpoints".
> 
> 
> 
> > open too.
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> 
> 
> Yes, let's all be open.
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