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> I think, in this case, that is a bad idea.

OK.  This is why I asked.

> SanDisk would love to help me.  They've sent me product samples to
> work
> with and put me in touch with all the right people at SCM

SCM are the manufacturer of new chipset being used?

> to try an
> convince them to release specs for their chipset.  So far, SCM has not
> given me a firm 'no' -- they're still debating.

OK.  These are good details to know.

> Given the fact that SanDisk (for all it's new products) has decided to
> work
> _with_ the Linux community to make sure that all its products are
> fully
> compatible with Linux, giving them a hard time for their older
> products
> just seems wrong to me.

OK.  This is good to know too.  I had gotten an impression (probably out
of thin air -- me bad) that it was the other way around.  I assumed (I
know, me bad) that they were _moving_ in a direction where they
could/would not be friendly to the Linux community.  I suppose I got all
of these impressions from the fact that I just bought my unit (like 2
days ago) and had assumed I was getting the newest product coming from
SanDisk.

> We want to encourage the right behavior from them,
> and they are moving towards this right behavior.  Let's not give them
> a
> hard time now.

If that is their direction then yes I agree.  Unfortunaely I have an
older procuct which I can't do anything with.  ~sigh~

> I take it you've never worked in embedded electronics, have you?

Nope, you got me there.  :-)

> It's just
> not as simple as you make it out to be.

I am sure it is not.  I was looking at what I thought to be product
direction and aligning it with company direction and attitude.

> I'll admit, it's annoying when two things which are _completely_
> different
> under the hood are marketed under the same name is annoying.

Indeed, especially when you get sold _old_ product.  ~sigh~

> So far, I
> haven't seen this with Iomega (the various variants of the Zip100 are
> just
> different sets of bugs).

Well my issue with Iomega is more basic.  They flatly refuse to provide
any support in any way for people running Linux.  They all but hung the
phone up on me when they found out I was running Linux on my Jaz drive
even though my issue had nothing to do with O/S.  My Jaz drive was
"eating" disks.  It took a lot of "squeaky wheel" to get them to replace
my defective drive.

> I'll admit, with the "USB Imagemate" from
> SanDisk, this is annoying.

Indeed.

> But if you read the packaging carefully, you
> can tell the difference.  The one without the eject button (that
> doesn't
> work) is the SDDR-05.  The one with the eject button (that _does_
> work) is
> the SDDR-01.

Whoa, back up.  There were messages on the Linux USB site to the effect
that SDDR-05 does actually work.  I did not make the distinction that it
was the SDDR-05 WITH the eject button that works, not the SDDR-05
without the eject button.

> And (just to repeat myself), I really think "blacklisting" a vendor
> for
> something they've done in the past, especially when they're doing the
> right
> thing now (releasing specs, providing samples, providing a point of
> contact
> for driver development) is just a bad idea.

I agree.

> What you should do if you
> really want to encourage companies to be Linux-friendly is go out and
> buy a
> SDDR-31 CF reader as soon as it hits the shelves in your local stores.

When will this be?  I need to read CF cards today.  :-)

> They work wonderfully with linux.

If you say so, I am sure they do.  But what to do today?

b.


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Brian J. Murrell                              InterLinx Support Services, Inc.
North Vancouver, B.C.                                             604 983 UNIX
        Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD

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