Derek, As a programmer who is working and has worked both sides of the fence I have to take issue with your thinly disguised attack on commercial programmers shallowly veiled as a push to get back on topic :-D
> -----Original Message----- > From: Derek Smithies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2003 4:14 p.m. > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Un-Dynamics of Software Development > > I have worked open and closed source. > Closed source tends to be more spaghetti like: there is no way you > will release code that makes you look bad to the world. So it is only people who are paid that know how to write caq? Come on....I seriously hope this line is an attempt at irony? I take it from your comment you used to write caq until you stopped being paid to write ( having worked both sides as you stated). > > The underlying problem for all programmers is that they want to get on > with the job, and get the product out there. Thus, code is written to > get the job done, and ignore the long term consequences. > This is sad, cause it means we get the consequences (faulty programs). All programmers .... hmmm ... bother ... looks like I am not a programmer. Looks like you as a programmer need to stop being so pushed by the demands of the job and get on with the business of quality coding. Looks like you have just levelled the ( paid / open source) playing field by stating ALL programmers write code ignoring the consequences of rushing a job. Either that or those doing open source coding are not programmers. I think I just heard the bang of Derek shooting himself in the foot. > > Which leads us back to Linux. > Being open source, with literally millions of code reviewers and testers, > we do get good stable code from people who are not in the un-dynamics of > software development. I wasn't aware there were only open source coders in Linux land. You mean all those windows, Atari, Unix, as400, aix, open source writers are not writing open source? Shame on you, you Linux bigot :-b As for stability .... there are a ton of commercial products out there that do the job they were designed to do more stabile, faster, better, longer, quicker, professionally than many open sourced products. Most open source code is in some way funded by a commercial enterprise somewhere (ducks for cover at such a blatantly sweeping statement) either directly or indirectly. The discussion yesterday about film editing products is an interesting microcosm of this phenomena with commercial packages being touted as being better for professional work than most open source products. My rant endeth here. Shane --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 27/11/2003
