Greets Net Llama; "Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Since when is a P4 the same as IA64?? Isn't it? I've seen the progression of the hardware over the years as this; 386-486 => 16 bit OS platforms/ 32 bit architecture 586-686-P3 => 32 bit OS platforms/ 64 bit architecture P4- P5 - P6 => 64 bit OS platforms/ 128 bit architecture http://cedar.intel.com/software/idap/media/pdf/LinuxQSG_Rev1.pdf I was under this impression that since 1999 when Intel released information for the Itanium/Pentium 4 for the purposes of linux community to build a P4 functioning kernel and start application building. Wasn't it REDHAT introducing of a IA-64 coded OS that worked on Pentium 4's before MS could produce for Windows 2000 OS for the same machines big news years ago? And as I understand it, going from 32 bits to 64 bits creates problems, and a OS developer has to start from the ground all over again? Software like GCC, GLIBC, have problems especially with 'int' 'long' and 'pointers', just to start with. I was under the impression problems were caused when compiled applications will crash by recieving unexpected negative values when a value is greater and outside the range of smaller bit 'holder'. Not all applications would crash and bomb, but I thought it was a good idea to use 64 bit OS on a Pentium 4 or better, which had 128 bit architecture to begin with. Wasn't there was a big push from Linux OS developers to have clients with a minimum OS platform of a Pentium instead of a 486 with Kernel 2.2.13 and the move to Glibc 2.1.3 along those very same lines? I think I remember grumbling from even this list when its members frequented the Caldera mail list there about eDesktop and it's minimum requirements a few years back. We've moved away from the i386/i486, which had 16 bit OS and applications, Linus and the other developers people went to the Pentium which could handle the 32 bit platform. The linux/GNU community has dropped and moved away for some time supporting GCC 2.91, GlibC 2.1.X, and the machines that they used could compile could that was understood by the Pentium 1-2-3's. But still all these machines are all 32 bit OS running on them ( 64 architecture). P4 is big monster, with 128 bit architecture. The 64 bit OS is now required to drive it. A new, higher bit architecture always requires a higher bit OS to drive it. IA-64 OS should be able to run on a half decently built and quick 2.0GHz or better Pent 4 machine, single CPU or no. This year we should see a new minimal equipment requirement, a Pentium 4 as a minimum machine, with 256MB ram, when Linus starts introduction of Kernel 2.6. ( say around 2.6.10 or so ). Anyway, this is way, way, way off topic. I am still under the opinion that M.C. simply has a CDROM he burned that simply didn't burn quite right. ---tm--- Linux Registration Number; 184093, http://counter.li.org __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
