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80386, 80486, Pentium, Pentium MMX/Pro/II/III/4 (including Celerons)= IA32 (or i386) -> 32 bits Itanium, Itanium 2 = IA64 -> 64 bits IIRC IAxx means something like Intel Architecture xx bits (or something like that) Bye! On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 00:43:37 -0500, tom wrote: >Greets Net Llama; > >"Net Llama!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Since when is a P4 the same as IA64?? > >Isn't it? I've seen the progression of the hardware over the >years as this; > >386-486 => 16 bit OS platforms/ 32 bit architecture >586-686-P3 => 32 bit OS platforms/ 64 bit architecture >P4- P5 - P6 => 64 bit OS platforms/ 128 bit architecture > >http://cedar.intel.com/software/idap/media/pdf/LinuxQSG_Rev1.pdf > >I was under this impression that since 1999 when Intel >released information for the Itanium/Pentium 4 for the >purposes of linux community to build a P4 functioning kernel >and start application building. > >Wasn't it REDHAT introducing of a IA-64 coded OS that >worked on Pentium 4's before MS could produce for Windows >2000 OS for the same machines big news years ago? > >And as I understand it, going from 32 bits to 64 bits >creates problems, and a OS developer has to start >from the ground all over again? > >Software like GCC, GLIBC, have problems especially >with 'int' 'long' and 'pointers', just to start with. > >I was under the impression problems were caused when >compiled applications will crash by recieving unexpected >negative values when a value is greater and outside the >range of smaller bit 'holder'. > >Not all applications would crash and bomb, but I thought >it was a good idea to use 64 bit OS on a Pentium 4 or better, >which had 128 bit architecture to begin with. > >Wasn't there was a big push from Linux OS developers to >have clients with a minimum OS platform of a Pentium >instead of a 486 with Kernel 2.2.13 and the >move to Glibc 2.1.3 along those very same lines? > >I think I remember grumbling from even this list >when its members frequented the Caldera mail list there >about eDesktop and it's minimum requirements a few years back. > >We've moved away from the i386/i486, which had 16 bit >OS and applications, Linus and the other developers >people went to the Pentium which could handle the 32 bit >platform. > >The linux/GNU community has dropped and moved away for some >time supporting GCC 2.91, GlibC 2.1.X, and the machines >that they used could compile could that was understood by >the Pentium 1-2-3's. But still all these machines are >all 32 bit OS running on them ( 64 architecture). > >P4 is big monster, with 128 bit architecture. The 64 bit OS >is now required to drive it. A new, higher bit architecture >always requires a higher bit OS to drive it. > >IA-64 OS should be able to run on a half decently built and >quick 2.0GHz or better Pent 4 machine, single CPU or no. > >This year we should see a new minimal equipment requirement, >a Pentium 4 as a minimum machine, with 256MB ram, when Linus >starts introduction of Kernel 2.6. ( say around 2.6.10 or so ). > > >Anyway, this is way, way, way off topic. > > > >I am still under the opinion that M.C. simply has a CDROM >he burned that simply didn't burn quite right. > > >---tm--- >Linux Registration Number; 184093, >http://counter.li.org > > >__________________________________________________________________ >The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ >_______________________________________________ >Linux-users mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Federico Voges Socio gerente Intrasoft Malabia 2137 14 A (1425) Buenos Aires Argentina Te/Fax: 54-11-4833-5182 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.intrasoft.com.ar PGP Public Key Fingerprint: A536 4595 EB6F D197 FBC1 5C3A 145C 2516 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, Inc. and its affiliated companies. iQA/AwUBPjjAShRcJRaVKt4XEQJKMACgzFKKzQw2ePDulqGERer1e7lNnykAn0oo V4uSqyxK/O8MltWFozfjEP++ =OE2n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe/Suspend/Etc -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
