On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:07:02 -0400 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Friday 03 August 2001 12:57, Collins Richey wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:53:18 -0400 Bruce Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Friday 03 August 2001 14:43, Michael Scottaline wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:44:02 -0500
> > > > Jim Conner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insightfully noted:
> > > >
> > > > JC> I've heard good things about sypheed from you and others.
> Kmail
> > >
> > > does
> > >
> > > > JC> what I
> > > > JC> want an e-mail program to do. I've heard that the new Kmail
> 2.2
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > > > JC> be even
> > > > JC> better. Having an option like Sypheed is nice, due to the
> fact
> > >
> > > that
> > >
> > > > JC> some
> > > > JC> people don't want to run/install KDE2.x to get a good e-mailer
> > >
> > > because
> > >
> > > > JC> of
> > > > JC> hardware restraints or personal preferences.
> > > > JC>
> > > > JC> Jim
> > > > ====================================
> > > > Oh, I like Kmail a lot!! I used it [v 1.0.17 & 1.0.28] for over
> two
> > > > years. I recently switched to Sylpheed more out of curiosity than
> > > > anything else. One big advantage I see in Sylpheed (at least over
> the
> > > > verions of kmail I've used) is the ability to use multiple smtp
> > >
> > > accounts.
> > >
> > > > Kmail allows just one, despite allowing several pop (incoming)
> > >
> > > accounts.
> > >
> > > > Both do a very good job of filtering. Sylpheed *might* be a bit
> > >
> > > "faster".
> > >
> > > > Mike
> > >
> > > I agree that Kmail should support multiple smtp's but most people
> these
> > > days
> > > only have access to one at a time (because of relay restrictions)
> and I
> > > have
> > > never found that limitation to be a problem. Much less so than
> > > Sylpheeds
> > > stupidity at not allow multiple inboxes WITHOUT THE USE OF FILTERS.
> > >
> > > I find that to be ridiculous but any query to them as to why they do
> it
> > > is
> > > because they are so in love with their filters that they don't think
> it
> > > is
> > > necessary.
> > >
> > > I won't look at sylpheed again.
> > >
> > > So there!! Bleah!! :o)
> >
> > A perfect exmple of why one man's meat is another's poison. I
> personally
> > use filters for everything that I do on a regular basis, so anything
> that
> > shows up in the inbox stands out like a sore thumb. As another said,
> > ain't Linux great that way!
> >
> > Sylpheed under XFCE is blazingly fast - about 8-10 seconds from
> startup to
> > reading my mail.
> >
> > So there!! Bliss!! :)
>
> Yeh but.... I use procmail as my filter for everything including 4 POP
> sites, and spam filtering... including running a program I wrote
> against all
> email.
>
> 1) I don't want to set up a whole 'nuther set of filters just so I can
> plonk
> the same email into the *proper* inbox. Kmail does it automatically
> for me.
>
> 2) Sylpheed doesn't allow to my knowledge the running of any programs,
> either
> for filtering or for sig files..... I run another program for my sig
> files....
>
> No bliss here (although I live on Bliss Road.... -really- :o)
>
Just different strokes for different folks. BTW, I've received maybe 4
pices of spam in 4-5 years on the internet, most of it because my wife and
her relatives keep sending those cutesy animated greeting cards which
guarantee at least one spam. At least these have a turn-off-the-spam uri,
so you only get one. Since I don't have the need to pre-process the mail
with any program or generate my signature from a program, I don't really
miss those features. I haven't been on the Sylpheed mailing list for a
long while; maybe they'l get around to it some "good-day."
Obviously you don't have this problem, but I'm a simple-minded user, and
yeagh - blech - etc. is what I think about the config files necessary to
run any of the xxxmail offerings. Since I want a gui mailer program
anyway, why not use one that has the mail agent and gui rolled into one?
Especially since even I can understand the few steps required to configure
it. Also, if I change distros, I can recompile the beast in about 15
minutes.
I used Kmail for quite a while, but once I discovered Sylpheed and XFCE, I
stopped looking. I especially didn't miss the way Kmail would choke on a
particular type of mail resulting in a lengthy search to find and to purge
the offending item. The earlier versions of Sylpheed were a little rough.
One version failed to allow you to double click a uri to browse the site,
for example. Earlier versions didn't always respond to the standard Unix
highlight then middle button paste from another window. Earlier versions
didn't have automated interval retrieval. The only current bug that
irritates the hell out of me, is that Sylpheed mail retrieval hangs for a
very long time before giving up when the @home.com mail server goes south.
In short, Sylpheed is just a simple utility. "Small is beautiful." If I
needed to process and distribute mail for a lot of users, I might knuckle
down and learn the yecky config files for xxxmail, but not any sooner than
I have to.
Enjoy your procmail!
--
Collins Richey
Denver Area
Gentoo_rc5 XFCE
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