[ snips ] On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 14:10:46 -0800 Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 30 December 2001 01:48 pm, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > If your typos are in a product you're selling, I won't buy it. If > > > > you can't proofread, how good are you at testing your software > > > Yes, you are. I didn't find any typos in Mandrake or Caldera > > > distros that failed to install on my PC or in Redhat distros that > > > had a flaky compiler/glibc environment for everyone's PC, but I'm > > > too picky to use them any more. > > > > > > > I am in agreement with Dave. Typo's are unacceptable. It truely shows > > how much 'true' effort was put into the thing. I see more and more > > companies putting things out with typo's in them, it's pathetic. > > > Typo's or no typo's, my greatest bitch with elx is that I had to go > change permissions on quite a few items in order to use them as a user. > This is not the first distro I've tried (nor probably the last) Most > machines at this site run Caldera other than this one (my lab rat). I've > not had to go through so many changes on the other machines as I had to > on this one. I'm constantly looking for distro's that can be installed > and "used" by wintendo converts and at first thought that elx would fill > this requirement. But for now, I'll continue playing with it and see > what the 1.0 release is like and hopefully they'll see that running > primarily as root is really not an option. Can you imagine a wintendo > convert running linux as root? Good grief, I shudder just thinking about > it. JMHO and this to me is a BFD! > "You pays you money, you takes you chances." In my case, I paid absolutely zip and got an extremely well-crafted and functional product for the price of a few hours download and two burnt CDs. I also got access to a professionally constructed web site with a well grounded plan to encourage Windows users to migrate to linux as well as an offer to help with that endeavor. I got a desktop environment that will probably appeal to a lot of Windows refugees. I got immediate response for my questions from the developers. I got all-in-all fewer bugs than I ever did from Mandrake and Caldera and SuSE and gentoo distros I've used in the past. And just for a bonus, I got one #@!& typo in a pre-release distro, and that fact has you anal types in an uproar. Now Ted has a slightly more rational complaint - ease of use for device allocation which is one of the not-so-user-friendly areas of a *nix system. Every distro is going to handle this differently. Either you set permissions to permit anyone access to devices and deal with the security ramifications, or you set exclusive permissions and require use of root to alter those permissions as required. I've had much grief on Caldera distros and others just getting pppd functions to work. This is nothing new. Granted, no distro is going to recommend running as root other than briefly to accomplish brief tasks, nor does elx do that, but every new Linux user is going to need to learn how and how not to use the power of root. I don't have any serial devices, Ted, so I can't comiserate. The elx distro has been easier for me to install, manipulate, and tailor than any I've used in the past. I would not hesitate to recommend this one to a newbie. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - ELX-1 system k2.4.17+xfce+sylpheed _______________________________________________ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
