On Mon, Oct 25, 2004 at 05:53:04PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote:
[...]
> Pero que voy a saber yo.  Obviamente los PHB estan mucho mas calificados
> para tomar estas decisiones, porque saben evaluar modelos de negocios,
> saben entender las estrategias y tienen vision de largo plazo.  Ademas,
> son los que despues saben entenderselas con los abogados cuando se dan
> cuenta de los desastres de decisiones que tomaron.  Realmente la gente
> tecnica es muy inferior en todo esto y no conviene que tengan influencia
> en la toma de decisiones.

Como decia un jefe que tuve, "aqui los problemas no se solucionan, se
manejan."

Blu.
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon Oct 25 16:08:07 2004
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carlos Manuel Duclos Vergara)
Date: Mon Oct 25 21:59:03 2004
Subject: Y como va el Encuentro?
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> yo quise meterme al taller de modulos pero se lleno al tiro, igual en otro
> taller encontre los fuentes serial-el2004 y me los robe. Pero me dijieron

son de libre disposicion, no le puse licencia a la cosa porque no tiene mucho
sentido pero si quieren dejar claro el tema los prefiero liberar bajo licencia
BSD

> que hubo un problema en ese taller, alguien sabe?
>

Un pequenno problema con la preparacion de los computadores involucrados
en el taller, faltaban las fuentes del kernel en algunos. Ademas falto tiempo,
ya que pensaba que podria haber avanzado mas rapido de lo que avance en
la parte teorica.


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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon Oct 25 22:07:57 2004
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mauricio vargas)
Date: Mon Oct 25 22:08:32 2004
Subject: internet me bloque nautilus
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----- Original Message -----
From: Alvaro Herrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> y luego trata de usar nautilus y pega aca el ultimo pedazo (unas diez o
> veinte lineas) del strace antes de que se cuelgue.  Ahi vemos que le
> pasa.

Acá va el strace, son algo más de veinte líneas... gettimeofday aparecía  un  
montón de veces anteriormente... time(null) sólo lo que aparece acá. Cuando se 
pegó, no hizo nada raro, simplemente paro de escribir (se pegó ;)). Gracias.

gettimeofday({1098752314, 999385}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0])                 = 0
gettimeofday({1098752314, 999774}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI }, {fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN |POLLPRI}, {fd=15, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=17, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=1 6, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=23, events=POLLIN 
|POLLPRI}], 11, 0) = 0
gettimeofday({1098752314, 999844}, NULL) = 0
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
writev(17, [{"GIOP\1\2\1\0\272\1\0\0", 12}, 
{"\33089\10\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0 \0\0\0\0\331\310\350"..., 442}], 2) = 454
gettimeofday({1098752315, 23548}, NULL) = 0
stat64("/home/chino/.thumbnails/normal", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=73728, 
. ..}) = 0
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
time(NULL)                              = 1098752315
gettimeofday({1098752315, 23907}, NULL) = 0
stat64("/usr/share/pixmaps/hicolor", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
di rectory)
stat64("/usr/share/icons/hicolor", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/share/icons/hicolor", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/share/pixmaps/hicolor", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
di rectory)
stat64("/home/chino/.icons/hicolor", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
di rectory)
stat64("/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
dire ctory)
stat64("/usr/share/icons/gnome", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/share/icons/gnome", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
stat64("/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
dire ctory)
stat64("/home/chino/.icons/gnome", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
dire ctory)
stat64("/usr/share/pixmaps/SphereCrystal", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file  or directory)
stat64("/usr/share/icons/SphereCrystal", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, 
.. .}) = 0
stat64("/usr/share/icons/SphereCrystal", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, 
.. .}) = 0
stat64("/usr/share/pixmaps/SphereCrystal", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file  or directory)
stat64("/home/chino/.icons/SphereCrystal", 0xbfffef6c) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file  or directory)
gettimeofday({1098752315, 24398}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1098752315, 24424}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1098752315, 24449}, NULL) = 0
ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0])                 = 0
gettimeofday({1098752315, 24586}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=3, events=POLLIN}, {fd=8, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI }, {fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=13, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=14, events=POLLIN |POLLPRI}, {fd=15, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=17, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=1 6, 
events=POLLIN|POLLPRI, revents=POLLIN}, {fd=12, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=2 
3, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 11, 0) = 1
gettimeofday({1098752315, 24680}, NULL) = 0
read(16, "GIOP\1\2\1\0\207\0\0\0", 12)  = 12
read(16, "\200\351\377\277\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\34\0\0\0\0\0\0\0e\260"..., 135) = 135
gettimeofday({1098752315, 35283}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1098752315, 35467}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1098752315, 35614}, NULL) = 0
stat64("/home/chino/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0774, 
st_size=40 96, ...}) = 0
open("/etc/mtab", O_RDONLY)             = 21
fstat64(21, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=616, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x41 2a3000
read(21, "/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0"..., 4096) = 616
read(21, "", 4096)                      = 0
close(21)                               = 0
munmap(0x412a3000, 4096)                = 0
open("/etc/rpc", O_RDONLY)              = 21
fcntl64(21, F_GETFD)                    = 0
fcntl64(21, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)        = 0
fstat64(21, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1615, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x41 2a3000
read(21, "#ident\t\"@(#)rpc\t1.11\t95/07/14 SM"..., 4096) = 1615
close(21)                               = 0
munmap(0x412a3000, 4096)                = 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP) = 21
bind(21, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(925), 
sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")} , 16) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
connect(21, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(111), 
sin_addr=inet_addr("127.0.0 .1")}, 16


Mauricio Vargas P.
Geólogo
MSc en Geología
Usurio Linux # 326558 http://counter.li.org
http://users.quickfox.org/~mauriciovargas/

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