I nominate myself for moderator of Dante, Ragi and all the GPL hate that might flout in ::Grin::
Chris... On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Peter Manis <[email protected]> wrote: > no. stop it. don't encourage him > :p > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Ragi Y. Burhum <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I nominate Roger for Headmaster-President-Lord Moderator to moderate them >> all! :) >> >>> >>> Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 20:57:25 -0800 >>> From: Peter Manis <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Creating a structure for SocalLinux.org - >>> asking all members to read >>> To: SoCal LUG Users List <[email protected]> >>> >>> +1 to Roger being a hippie >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Dino K <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > I have read your charter and think it's a great start! >>> > >>> > Roger's just a hippie, that's all. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 1:01 PM, David Kaiser <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Happy New Year Everyone! >>> >> >>> >> January 1, 2010 >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> For the first message of the new year, I wanted to take a moment to >>> >> reflect on the great 5.5 years we have been here and say thanks for >>> >> everyone for making SocalLinux.org such a great community. I feel >>> >> that >>> >> we have a great and diverse group and I really appreciate everyone >>> >> that >>> >> participates and the contributions of each and every person in our >>> >> group. >>> >> >>> >> I also wanted to take this opportunity to share some thoughts I have >>> >> had >>> >> about the design of the group. >>> >> >>> >> Since we started this group (originally called 909linux.org), we have >>> >> tried to focus as much as possible on creating and maintaining an >>> >> environment that is open, allows anyone to contribute and speak their >>> >> opinion, but along with that comes the need to do things such as >>> >> control >>> >> the tone of the discussion at times so that members of the group are >>> >> not >>> >> offended by any particular individual. It is a fine balancing act >>> >> to >>> >> encourage everyone to speak their mind ? but still ask everyone to be >>> >> respectful of others. I want to keep that approach in the future. >>> >> (Given the low number of conflicts we have, I think we have been >>> >> successful in this.) >>> >> >>> >> When we started, we decided not to have a formalized structure, (where >>> >> members at the time did not want to have cycles of elections and >>> >> people >>> >> being nominated as a president, etc.) so we have had a completely >>> >> informal and unstructured group this entire time. Since I am the >>> >> [genius/sucker: pick one] who registered the domain and maintains the >>> >> computing infrastructure for the mailing list (and our 1 web page!) I >>> >> want to bring this up and explain some of my thoughts, and also I >>> >> think >>> >> it would be useful for me to get feedback about this organization. >>> >> >>> >> While I don't mind being in the position of being the domain owner, I >>> >> want to make sure that the workings of the group are actually the >>> >> responsibility of the group. >>> >> >>> >> I am going to be looking for a way that there is a ?moderator group? >>> >> (or >>> >> some title) that we have a number of people that are aware of and >>> >> publicly making decisions that are for the benefit of the group. >>> >> While >>> >> I have never actually unsubscribed or banned any person from >>> >> participating (mailing list, irc channel, or in person), I have had to >>> >> enable some brief periods of moderation to the mailing list while >>> >> personal issues were resolved. I feel that this and other duties >>> >> should >>> >> be the responsibility of a group of people, and that this group should >>> >> somehow be enabled or voted on by the members. >>> >> >>> >> To start with, just having multiple people be the moderators of the >>> >> mailing list, and also having a way for the group members to maintain >>> >> the web site (a task which I completely FAIL at doing in case you have >>> >> noticed). This will go a long ways to achieving the goal of not having >>> >> myself be singularly responsible for this and ensure that things are >>> >> done for the benefit of everyone. These things are on my agenda for >>> >> the >>> >> coming months and I will be making more announcements about this soon. >>> >> >>> >> I am going to be enlisting everyone's feedback and working to >>> >> establish >>> >> the following: >>> >> - an official charter which details the group structure >>> >> - a group of moderators >>> >> - an additional administrator to help me maintain the site (likely to >>> >> be easier to do once we install a proper web management system of some >>> >> sort) >>> >> >>> >> For now, I am asking everyone to take a moment and read what I have >>> >> proposed for a Charter. >>> >> >>> >> The proposed charter is located at http://socallinux.org/charter >>> >> >>> >> This will be something which is only a 'read and understand' option >>> >> for >>> >> now. If conditions demand, then in the future we can make this be >>> >> something which has to be agreed upon before approval of signing-up to >>> >> the mailing list or other activities. >>> >> >>> >> While I have started this Charter, I did so by following the example >>> >> set >>> >> by many other successful Linux User Groups. Ultimately, I expect the >>> >> members of this group to add to this list with their own ideas because >>> >> this isn't just something I manage alone. We all need to share the >>> >> responsibility of keeping things running smoothly, so I am asking this >>> >> conversation in an open forum like this. >>> >> >>> >> Please reply to this thread with comments and suggested additions. I >>> >> know the charter as it is currently written needs some help, but I >>> >> need >>> >> your help in keeping the group self-moderated and running smoothly so >>> >> I >>> >> strongly believe this is something we need to do. Specifically >>> >> seeking >>> >> comments on Articles 6, 7, & 8, as I have not yet developed a policy >>> >> on >>> >> how moderators and administrators are selected and how the voting >>> >> process might work. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks again for making SocalLinux.org a great community, and thanks >>> >> in >>> >> advance for taking the time to read this and the charter document idea >>> >> I've posted. >>> >> >>> >> Looking forward to 2010! >>> >> >>> >> Regards, >>> >> David >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> LinuxUsers mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >>> >> >>> > >>> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> LinuxUsers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >> > > > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > [email protected] > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > -- "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." -Roger Penrose _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list [email protected] http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
