I would ban hate speech, sexism and racism.  Everyone has the right to
say what they want, but not everywhere.

3. goes without saying.

", even if that
  person is a terrorist, a serial killer, a cannibal, a child molester
  or the world's most evil, most horrible and most disgusting person."

I would delete everything above except the period.

Chris Penn...


On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Michael Sokolov
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Chris Penn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> What I
>> do not understand from anyone is the desire to start another group
>> without hashing out the issues they have with the charter.
>
> Well, a charter that *I* would like to see (for any social group in any
> locality on any topic) would be very very different, and would run along
> the lines of:
>
> 1. The purpose of the group is to bring together people in $GEO_AREA
>   interested in $TOPIC.
>
> 2. Every person without exception who expresses an interest in $TOPIC
>   and is able and willing to attend and participate in events in
>   $GEO_AREA has an entitlement right to be a member of the group.  No
>   person who expresses interest in $TOPIC and shows up at the physical
>   events may be denied group membership for ANY reason, even if that
>   person is a terrorist, a serial killer, a cannibal, a child molester
>   or the world's most evil, most horrible and most disgusting person.
>
> 3. No group member may exercise any dictatorial powers over any other
>   member.  In particular, no member can ever ban or remove any other
>   member from the group, and no member may ever restrict or moderate
>   any other member's speech under any circumstances for any reason.
>
> That's a pretty simple template charter for an Ultimate Free For All
> group, and it is my firm conviction that every social group on any topic
> in any locality should be like that.
>
> David Kaiser <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I still don't know what you're somehow thinking you have lost.
>
> I believe that an injury to one is an injury to all.  Although I have
> not been on the receiving end of any mailing list moderation stick
> myself yet, I have heard that other group members have been subjected to
> wrongful moderation on the list, and that is absolutely Wrong and
> unacceptable.
>
> Any kind of governmental structure in the group that allows a particular
> "lord" or clique of "lords" to ban members or seekers from the mailing
> list or from the physical meetings is nothing short of utmost
> reprehensible tyranny, and it is my duty to rebel in the most violent
> manner against any such developments, even if the person on the
> receiving end of the stick is someone I barely know or don't know at all
> as in the present case.
>
> MS
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