I have seen discussions on liberal and Conservative news channels/Sites, since this thread started, related to this purposed encryption legislation and I have seen nothing from the FED denying any of it. They were talking about this on O'Reilly last night (best entertainment of TV), and of course they loved the idea. Most people do not seem to understand why this is a bad idea.
The idea, with respect to encryption, is that ISPs, and any other communication company, will have to give their encryption keys to the FED, if a judge signs off on it, in a more expedient way then is currently possible. In theory this will make eavesdropping on communications faster and more efficient. One example discussed on CNN and FOX was BlackBerry's RIM encryption. Some of you may remember that the UAE (and Saudi Arabia) threaten to ban blackberry services because they would not hand over this information freely to the respective governments. Without some denial from the FED or white house, I am starting to think that this is not just FUD. On a different note, ACTA is just another issue that is slowly becoming a reality: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/09/open-letter Chris... On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Paul Saenz <[email protected]> wrote: > If the government passes this type of legislation, then it seems to me that > they will have to make a back door to encryption programs. In that case, bad > guys will be able to eventually get a hold of the crack, and the ability to > view encrypted material will be universal among hackers. So the idiot > politicians will be creating serious damage to encryption. Furthermore, > people will find ways to work around the encryption back doors. For > instance, people will still create and publish encryption code on the black > market. The key would be to transmit your data anonymously, to a download > station where the user identity cannot be tracked. Also, if you use whole > disk encryption, you can claim your computer crashed, and that it wasn't > encrypted in the first place. It just crashed, and bits got sprayed all over > the hard drive. > > Nevertheless, if the gov does pass a law like that, then the mass majority > of users will be subject to it. > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Chris Penn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I agree, cracking RSA encryption is unlikely for anyone directly, >> although there is the occasional workaround. I do not think this >> congress would pass this kind of law, but a republican congress might >> try, they did pass the patriot act. Who knows what they will vote for >> if fear is behind them. >> >> An interesting question to ask is what can the government do if they >> have the complete cooperation of our ISPs. I think their is damage to >> be done without cracking everyone encrypted data. >> >> >> Chris... >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Jeff Lasman <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Generally as a provider I ignore this kind of stuff until/unless it >> > becomes >> > law and the Supreme Court upholds it. >> > >> > But this thread calls out for a few comments, at least in my opinion >> > (below, >> > inline): >> > >> > On Monday, September 27, 2010 03:01:50 pm Chris Penn wrote: >> > >> >> "The Obama administration intends to present a bill to Congress next >> >> year that would require all providers of such services to ensure that >> >> they were technically capable of complying with a 'wiretap' or >> >> surveillance order, providing access to communications and >> >> unscrambling any encrypted information." >> > >> > It's simply impossible. If I encrypt well. >> > >> > If I send well-encrypted data over the network there's no way my >> > provider >> > could decrypt it. >> > >> > The key is of course, for us (individuals, not me as a provider) to >> > start >> > encrypting well. >> > >> > And as an aside, what about rules that require my data be encrypted: >> > rules >> > such as those affecting credit card encryption? >> > >> > And even laws that require encryption, such as those affecting medical >> > records. >> > >> > This is going to open a can of worms. Could it ever get through >> > Congress? >> > >> > Jeff >> > -- >> > Jeff Lasman >> > Post Office Box 52200, Riverside, CA 92517 >> > Our jplists address used on lists is for list email only >> > Phone +1 909 266-9209, or see: "http://www.nobaloney.net/contactus.html"; >> > _______________________________________________ >> > LinuxUsers mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to >> be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." >> -Roger Penrose >> _______________________________________________ >> LinuxUsers mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > [email protected] > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > > -- "As we open our newspapers or watch our television screens, we seem to be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity." -Roger Penrose _______________________________________________ LinuxUsers mailing list [email protected] http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
