FED=Federal government.  I should of said anyone in congress, the
senate, the white house, and institutions in between.

It is one thing to have a rumor flying about without comment and
another to have it flying about CNN, MSNBC and FOX, not to mention the
attention that the EFF gave this story.  I really expected someone in
the government to deny rumors of such legislation.

They are not saying that a bill was presented, they said that the
white house plans to present 2 bills over the next year.  You would
think if this is not true, someone in the white house would have made
a comment to deny these rumors considering the attention given  by the
media.  IMO, this is a bit more then a simple rumor spreading around
in the blog-o-sphere.

Chris...

On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Charles N Wyble
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 09/29/2010 01:48 PM, Chris Penn wrote:
>
> I have seen discussions on liberal and Conservative news
> channels/Sites, since this thread started, related to this purposed
> encryption legislation and I have seen nothing from the FED denying
> any of it.
>
> What is the FED? I'm not familiar with this acronym. Is this a shorthand
> reference to the federal reserve? If so I don't see why they would be
> commenting on legislation that isn't related to financial policy.
>
>   They were talking about this on O'Reilly last night (best
> entertainment of TV), and of course they loved the idea.  Most people
> do not seem to understand why this is a bad idea.
>
> Sure. The general pop never does.
>
> The idea, with respect to encryption, is that ISPs, and any other
> communication company,  will have to give their encryption keys to the
> FED, if a judge signs off on it, in a more expedient way then is
> currently possible.  In theory this will make eavesdropping on
> communications faster and more efficient.
>
> No...  based on the NYT article, the proposed law (which again is not before
> congress and is currently only speculation) requires the systems to be able
> to spit out plain text and hand that over. It doesn't require turning over
> the encryption keys. From
> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us/27wiretap.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
>
> “No one should be promising their customers that they will thumb their nose
> at a U.S. court order,” Ms. Caproni said. “They can promise strong
> encryption. They just need to figure out how they can provide us plain
> text.”
>
>
> One example discussed on CNN and FOX was BlackBerry's RIM encryption.
> Some of you may remember that the UAE (and Saudi Arabia) threaten to
> ban blackberry services because they would not hand over this
> information freely to the respective governments.
>
> That is true. Keep in mind that two systems exist. BES (used by enterprises
> with Zimbra or Microsoft Exchange. Admin sets up unique encryption keys etc)
> and BIS (used by carriers like t-mobile. Not sure of the nature of the
> encryption). So to my knowledge the UAE would only be able to get into BIS
> systems. This is trivially bypassed by deploying BES or using an IMAPS
> connection.
>
> Without some denial from the FED or white house, I am starting to
> think that this is not just FUD.
>
> All sorts of rumors fly about. Responding to every one would be very time
> consuming. :)
>
> Let's be incredibly mindful of the facts in this situation and avoid jumping
> to conclusions. I'm very disappointed in LWN and EFF for parroting a NYT
> article that seems to be pure conjecture. No bill is before congress at this
> time. To my knowledge no proposed bill text is out there.
>
>
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