On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Roy <[email protected]> wrote: > Debian 6 would not work for me. I installed it, but it would not > recognise my ethernet card and therefore had no internet connection. > They did not provide a driver that worked on the disk and since I had > no internet connection could not get one. Debian 6 is the ONLY > distribution in over ten years that I have tried where this has > happened and I have tried hundreds of distros in that time. Currently > I have LMDE, Kubuntu 11.04, Fedora 14, Magiea and openSuSE 11.4 > installed and only Debian 6 is a dud. I have owned five computers > since I began in Linux and never had a problem connecting either wired > or wireless with the exception of Debian 6. > > Say what you will about it being sta(b)le, but if it does not deliver > basic functionality then it is useless, IMO.
I never said it had driver support. It's stable. If Debian will boot on a machine, then it can and will run until the hardware fails. (Or until the admin, usually me, does something fantastically stupid). If you're running on finicky consumer desktop hardware, on which Realtek components are popular, well, you get what you deserve. Grab a cheap 3Com NIC and it'll work fine. And about gnome-shell... gnome-shell is probably the best and the worst thing to happen to Gnome in the past decade. I love how they're changing the way for interfacing with the system. The Gnome panels of 2.x were fundamentally broken. I would log in, and then all my things would be magically re-arranged into the most ass-backwards random barf imaginable. Not to mention their whole UX scheme was of the school of "the user is terrible, let's punish him/her as much as we can!" Then they jumped aboard this whole Mono ship. With developers able to leverage more modern tools, the quality of the individual applications improved. But the core desktop was still FUBAR. gnome-shell is a good step in the right direction when I tried it. It's sad because it's fundamentally broken on Ubuntu because the Ubuntu team are a bunch of morons trying to push their own Ubiquity bollocks (or whatever it was called... that might be their installer). As if they can concurrently create something as complex as a desktop shell! GNU/Linux teams have consistently failed at that task for two decades, so what makes them imagine that for a second they can deviate from the normal? ** Either way, I use Linux in server environments and OS X for my desktop. But gnome-shell (well, the Gnome 3 suite) is a good step in the right direction. It's taking UX design to task again in a way that only GNU/Linux can. I mean, people kept telling me that Linux is great because it "reinvents" the desktop, and then I looked at it and they were recycling all the worst UX features of Windows. Rubbish! I was very disappointed (and still am!) in KDE 4.x, and Gnome 3 makes me happy. Maybe someday they'll make graphics drivers for Linux that don't suck (shut up now. They ALL suck), and then Gnome 3 will be useable in a work environment? Then again, while I'm in pie-in-the-sky mode, I'd like a million or so US Dollars and a pony. ** Think: KDE 3.0 was terrible, and it only got good around 3.4. KDE 4 sucks massively. Gnome 2.x sucks massively. XFCE is terrible. Enlightenment just adds more terrible to already terrible window managers. Sturgeon's Law really applies in the Linux world. And all too often the O'Dell corollary applies, too, so essentially it's all crap (which is the arrival of the Myers corollary to the O'Dell corollary). (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SturgeonsLaw) -- Registered Linux Addict #431495 For Faith and Family! | John 3:16! fsdev.net | 0x5f3759df.org | chrismiller.at -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Linux Users Group. To post a message, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit our group at http://groups.google.com/group/linuxusersgroup
