Michelle Dick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> When I screwed up my MTA config file and left my machine open for
> relaying. It was discovered and for 3 days, spam was pumped through
> it until I noticed and shut down the relay. No one complained. I
> guess that means it was OK for me to have an open relay? Again, this
> "but only a few people complained directly to me" is not a good
> justification, you have to use another argument.
I get multiple comments like this on a daily basis:
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Notes:
Adding web address, one phrase to description, two keywords.
Thank you very much for listing xxxxxxxx and for the good job
you did in describing xxxxxxxx succinctly.
I'm going on positive feedback. Wish I had a negative one to show
you, but like I said, they're uncommon.
Last request I had to remove a valid list was because of spam and web
harvesters which I really hate!!
> > (And in fact, people are surprised
> > to find I've removed their list after receiving no response to my
> > queries for updates.)
>
> Sure. I was. :-). But I'd never complain about it.
I dropped your list because I went and checked your list archive and
it looked like the list had gone idle. If I can get a positive response
from a server or I find recent postings in an archive, I'll leave
a listing. (and I *want* people to write me complaining that I
removed their listings, otherwise how would I know to put them back?)
> Why is that a problem? Just drop their lists. Especially now that
> you list lists unsolicited, why do they have any obligation to update
> on request?
They don't have any obligation. I never said they do.
> > I get a lot of complaints about other people's archives.
>
> That's the nature of the net. I get lots of complaints about other
> people's recipes in web archive.
In your web archive? Do you have any control over your web/ftp mirrors?
Here's one I got a couple days ago:
> http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/mailing-lists/part07
> /faq.html
> you have a link to my XXXXXXXXXXX mailing list listed as;
The funny thing about this is Ohio State is one of the FAQ archivers
and that information will be updated next week. This was an easy one.
About a month ago, some bozo harvested names from a 4 year out-of-date
PAML archive, and then was kind enough to give the source of their
harvesting in the spam. I got about half a dozen people notifying
me of that one (including a couple who are active list-manager
posters)!
> info for all the recipes" "why doesn't the email address work", "why
> won't you do xyq". Etc. I just ignore them. They can ask, I don't
> have to respond.
I have a recipe archive too, so I know how that goes (although like
the PAML, feedback on the recipes archive is overwhelmingly positive).
Last night I got this one:
dear stephanie, if you're still there... the cake is in the oven, so
help me... when this comes out of the oven..I pour the glaze over /edge
of this hot cake... let it sit for 20 mins. then invert it??? All
will come out OK?? ...won't stick, eh??..if your are there ;please
reassure me.... seems abit questionable to me... I've got about 30 mins.
of baking time left..Respond if possible... Thank You!
[I usually ignore these but last night I was in a charitable mood and
wrote her back and told her to check other recipes in the archive. I
got back "I don't want to do that."]
Tonight, I got this one:
hi Stephanie, a friend of mine got the caramelized upside-down plum
tart and i am making now. i cant find my creme fraiche recipe and it
calls for that without the recipe could you kindly send it to me?
Are you to say my verification requests fall in the same catagory?
If I can verify a list without writing someone, I will (and I do).
I don't want to annoy people. I don't want to annoy you. I'm
really sensitive to this and I have to juggle it between the really
big problem of having information in the PAML go out of date. The
PAML is time sensitive. My recipes archive is not. Recipes don't
become outdated and then inconvenience people as a result.