On 21 Nov 99, at 19:28, David B. Smith wrote:

> I noticed you saying to All:
> 
>  CVR> I find it fascinating to watch people tell other folks how easy it is 
>  CVR> to do their job right, myself. I wonder how many people on this list 
>  CVR> could begin to architect AOL's system, much less build one that 
>  CVR> didn't implode in the first three minutes.

 [...]

> As for AOL's system, well, I think you've both got points.  On the one
> hand, a system the size of AOL is a whole 'nother phenomenon entirely.
> It can't be done just-the-same-but-bigger, because the shear volume
> makes it not just-the-same.
> 
> On the other hand, the offer for which they accepted money was "Internet
> email" et-al, and the acceptance was of those services as they had been
> done.  And the rest of the providers on the net -didn't- overcommit
> their resources as AOL did.

This isn't quite correct.  That's one of the reasons why 'spam' has 
caused so much trouble for ISPs: not because it is so hard for users to 
filter spam out of their mailboxes [although AOL folk with truly-crippled 
mail clients might disagree.:o), but for the rest, you can eliminate 
almost all of the stuff with modest filtering in Eudora, Peagsus, 
Communicator, etc] but because that volume of email *crashed* servers 
[and they'd talk about considering spam a "denial of service attack"] 
when the fact is just that they *NEVER* configured their system to give 
their users what they claimed and had always been counting on the fact 
that users didn't get giant amounts of mail.  [same as with things like 
'melissa' and such: they *crashed* mail servers all around the net not 
because they exploited some malicious flaw in mail server, but because 
the mail servers couldn't handle every user getting a few hundred 
messages all at the same time... that could well have been legitimate 
mail, and the only difference is that the sysops wouldn't have had anyone 
to blame]..

  /Bernie\
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