In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Roger B.A. Klorese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Thu, 6 Jan 2000, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>> Well, gotta run now.  I'm off to www.egroups.com.  I gotta sign up
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to a few dozen of their stupid non-confirming
>> lists.  Oh yea!  And I musn't forget <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>!
>
>Fine... as long as you're the list-owner.

Sorry, no.  It is _not_ fine.

If I wake up tomorrow morning and decide to create a mailing list called
``Great Pyramid Schemes You Can Join for only $19.95'', and if I then
unilaterally subscribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to my marvelous new
mailing list, that is most definitely _not_ fine.  That's called spamming,
and it's now illegal under California law.

Can Egroups.Com be used as (witting or unwitting) accomplices in this type
of violation of California law?  Clearly, the answer is `yes', and that
was proved by the spam I received from their server yesterday.

I for one am more than willing to overlook the participation of either
egroups.com or any other list hosting service in this type of spamming
and violation of California law IF AND ONLY IF they will just be so kind
as to do what most of the rest of the list administrators reading these
words have already done long ago, i.e. implement a simple subscription
confirmation protocol that will insure that I and other Internet users
are not exposed to the additional risk of ``subscription bombing'' IN
ADDITION to the risk of being indirectly spammed with the assistance of
their servers.

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