In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Roger B.A. Klorese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>> As far as I know, every modern off-the-shelf list management package now
>> provides, at the very least, an option which, when set, will cause the
>> list management package to send, via E-mail, SOME SORT of confirmation
>> request to each alleged new subscriber and to wait for a suitable response
>> BEFORE finalizing the subscription.  (The better packages will even e-mail
>> a difficult-to-forge cookie of some sort to the alleged new subscriber and
>> then verify that they get the exact same cookie back from that subscriber
>> as part of the confirmation process.)
>> 
>> Certainly, if the administrator of a given server system gives any and all
>> mailing list adminsitartors who have access to that system carte blanche
>> (e.g. root access) so that they can run rampant and do anything they like,
>> then yes, some will undoubtedly be able to disable this prudent safety
>> mechanism.
>
>But, in fact, just about every package of this sort, whether an
>off-the-shelf package or a list host,  DOES allow individual
>list owners to add users without confirmation if they so choose.

I do not know that to be the case.

But that is beside the point anyway.  Are you claiming that it is a Good
Thing, that anonymous goofballs can go and get outfits like eGroups to do
their spamming for them, or are you only claiming that this is a common
situation?

>Don't generalize without data.

Funny.  I was just about to say that same to you.

*I'm* not the one who is making statements of the form ``... just about
every package of this sort...''

Where is your data to backup that generalization?  Have you surveyed all
such packages?

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