[In the message entitled "Re: Blacklisted: TOPICA.COM" on Feb 11, 10:10, Paul Hoffman
/ IMC writes:]
> At 11:41 PM 2/10/00 -0800, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
> >Have you considered putting ORBS in your blocking files? I'm redoing stuff
> >to use tcpwrappers, and I'll probably block their stuff at that level once
> >I'm done. I wonder if that'll qualify me for their database or something,
>
> Most likely, yes. AboveNet blackholed ORBS for some of their customers, and
> ORBS has blackholed all of AboveNet. Of course, they don't say that on the
> site; why should they explain the rules to everyone? See
> <http://www.orbs.org/above.net.txt> for details.
Actually, orbs has not blocked all of above.net (but I think that they
should - all 5,000 of our transi routes should be full blocked, as
none of those addresses are reachable from ORBS).
They have, on the other hand, blocked address space attributed to
us that we do not own nor transit. 207.126.0.0/16, for example.
>
> > since I won't let them whack at my servers without my permission any
> > more. Horrors, that. Of course, from my experience, the number of sites
> > that actually connect to ORBS is so tiny, I don't even pay attention to
> > it any more.
>
> Because we are colocated at AboveNet, we had some problems with users to
> our mailing lists bouncing everything. It turns out "some" was "virtually
> none", like maybe two companies out of the tens of thousands we have on our
> lists. When I realized this, I had a good chuckle.
>
> Oh, and after you've been blackholed by them, don't bother sending them
> mail. They use their own list to blackhole and expect you to get a Hotmail
> account in order to talk to them. Great planning, that...
>
Indeed.
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Dave Rand
Senior Vice President & CTO, Above.net
A subsidiary of Metromedia Fiber Network, Inc. NASDAQ: MFNX
