In message <v04220869b4d73da7d13b@[192.168.1.5]>,
Vince Sabio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>** Sometime around 16:31 -0800 02/20/2000, Ronald F. Guilmette sent us:
>>In message <v04220802b4d631f0d790@[209.239.169.197]>,
>>Chuq Von Rospach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >At 2:43 PM -0800 2/20/2000, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>> >
>> >oops. My mistake. I let Ronald's latest make me forget my resolve to
>> >quit wasting time on the list-manager's resident troll. His response
>> >simply reminds me how futile it is to argue with him, so I've set my
>> >system up to make sure I'm not tempted again in the future. Sorry for
>> >wasting everyone's electrons by encouraging him.
>>
>>It's OK Chuq. Don't worry about your pointless blathering. I'm sure
>>that by now, most people on the list have come to expect it from you,
>>and probably most have already killfiled you anyway, so no big deal.
>
>Ron, you continue to be an embarrassment to yourself and this list. I
>should have killfiled you a long time ago, but the means by which you
>demonstrate your comprehensive failure to understand the issues that
>-actual- list managers deal with on a day-to-day basis occasionally has
>its humourous moments.
>
>But please do not mistake anyone's lack of response to your posts as
>acquiescing to your lunatic-fringe spew; more likely, it is a sign
>that you are progressively populating the killfiles of this list. I've
>little doubt that I'll eventually killfile you, as well; I just seem to
>have a higher tolerance than most for our resident global-village idiot.
I love you too Vince.
And by the way, if it is a ``lunatic fringe'' concept for mailing list
administrators to actually take some responsibility for what they do
(which is exactly what I have consistantly advocated) then fine. In that
case I'm proud to be a member of the lunatic fringe.
But I think that real problem here is that I've suggested that mailing list
admins should in fact be held accountable for their actions, or lack thereof.
If that doesn't go over well among all readers of this list, then that fact
neither surprises me nor discourages me.
Some people, at least, are getting the message. You and Chuq can continue
to whine about how its just too hard on your little noggins to try to run
mailing lists with prudent security precautions. Meanwhile, other people
who are less inclined towards whining and more inclined towards actually
working for a living are actually doing it.
According to the most recent edition of Business Week magazine, this may
soon cease to be optional:
``We are right now on the cusp of seeing the standards for what
is negligent emerge,'' explains James X. Dempsy, senior council
at the Center for Democracy and Technology in Washington. He
suggests that before long, people who let their system be com-
mandeered may be held liable for not taking appropriate security
measures.
This is not far fetched, experts say. If you slip on snow outside
a neighbor's home, you can sue him for failing to shovel. The threat
of lawsuits and other potential hits to the bottom line may persuade
boards of directors and insurers to step up calls for increased se-
curity at e-commerce firms.
