>
>Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 12:46:00 -0500 (EST)
>From: murr rhame <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: eGroups
>
><snip>
>There is an eGroups list with the same topic and a similar name
>as my most popular list.  I has never considered their copy a
>highjacking.  Someone just wanted a similar list with a slightly
>different spin.  The alternative list hasn't bothered me in the
>least.
>
>I have made no effort to trademark my list name.  I haven't seen
>a lot of cross-posting.  Subscribers are at liberty to post the
>same material to both lists.  If they started to grab material
>they didn't write themselves and posted it to another forum
>without the author's permission, I would be upset.

The list at eGroups has 2 subscribers. The archived postings
are from my list. The list information on eGroups references
my website.

>How do you know eGroups (the company) is responsible for creating
>a list with the same topic as yours?  It's a huge site, the
>chances of them having a similar or duplicate list for nearly any
>topic are pretty high.  Have you contacted the list owner of the
>eGroups list?  Try [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hard to say whether the company or a subscriber did it,
I did a scan for eGroups subscribed addresses on my list but
have none. I sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and got no answer. I sent messages to eGroups addresses
and got only autoresponders referring me to their faq if I
needed help using eGroups.

I'm on the digest so I didn't get all the responses until this
morning, but thanks for the advice.  I do need to adjust my
welcome message and notice on my website.

I still don't quite understand why, when I attempted to post to
my own list, I received a message that I was not allowed to
post to eGroups because I was not a subscriber.  Considering
that I did not send the message or the approved: message to
eGroups.  That is what tipped me off to look at eGroups, which
is archiving a portion of the messages to the list.  Still
a puzzlement to me what's going on.  And as I said, I have
no eGroups subscriptions -- either for the list, or for
individuals. And yet it gets the messages.

My outgoing message was simply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HOWEVER, the message from eGroups contained a different TO:
(see their message below):

>You recently submitted a message to several of our groups
>simultaneously. This is known as "cross-posting". Generally,
>cross-posting is acceptable at eGroups. However, if you wish
>to cross-post to groups, you must be a member of those groups.
>Because you are not a member of the datamine-l group, your
>cross-posted message was not delivered to the group.
>If you would like to become a member of this group, please
>visit http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/datamine-l
>or send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>For further assistance, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>or visit http://www.egroups.com/help
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>From: Dorothy Firsching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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... And now I see the X-envelope-to as [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well...
really makes me wonder what is really going on here. How would that
egroups To: or that X-envelope-to have gotten inserted?

The list is hosted using majordomo at quality.org - was that done there?

Thanks for your assistance in figuring this out!

/Dorothy


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