On 21 Dec 2000, 14:25, Stephanie da Silva wrote:

> Here's the description of the list on eGroups:
> 
> An unofficial archive of the mailing list Datamine-L. The archiving
> starts on October 22, 2000.

So okay, we now know the creator of this egroups list created a private 
list at egroups to stockpile their copies of the datamine-l list.

The question before us would be "are they in the wrong?"  

If we subscribe to a mailing list that provides us useful reference 
documents, don't we have the right to store those messages on our disk 
drive?

Suppose we had a remote account someplace, such as a shell account or 
file or web hosting services.  Would we be in the wrong to upload those 
useful messages to save for later reference and research?

If we purchase a book, don't we have a right to store it someplace?

Personally, I think all this talk about attorneys is preposterous.  The 
owner of that egroups site is just a fan of the datamine-l list and 
wants to store their list messages.  egroups archiving is excellent for 
searching through large amounts of messages for a keyword or phrase. 

I have used egroups in this regard myself.  egroups is actually 
superior in my view to file hosting services such as xfiles and 
freedrive, particularly in storing text files, such as email messages.  
But it can also be used to store binary files.  I find egroups faster 
in uploading that the big commercial file hosts.  And sharing among 
friends is as easy as subscribing to the list.

> It's possible one of her users did it.

Probable, I'd say.  I wonder if her own archiving is lacking in some 
way?

Dorothy, how do you archive your list messages if at all?  If you do 
archive them, are they accessible to your subscribers?  Is searching 
the archives an easy experience?  If not, then perhaps you should look 
into improving archive access.

As to the bounce you received, Dorothy, I imagine one of the two 
subscribers to the egroups datamine-l list attempted to do a "redirect" 
forward of one of your posts and it bounced to you.  It would be as if 
you tried to post to that list yourself, but were rejected due to not 
being a subscriber.

> Now that eGroups is mutating into Yahoo, I've found their customer
> service has gone downhill. 

Naw.  Customer service at ONElist and Egroups has always been the pits.
Under Yahoo's ownership, we can all be confident that customer service 
will remain the status no.


Alan
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