On Monday, May 21, 2001, at 11:21 AM, Nick Simicich wrote:


> Believe it or not, most subscribers prefer a focused list.

Nick is mostly correct, but -- I think it depends on the list.

When a list of mine develops a sense of community, I find it tends to 
wander. I find that it's that wandering that develops the community 
aspect, because that's where they're interacting as people, and not 
merely discussing the narrow topic at hand.

So it depends on what kind of people you have on the list, and what they 
want out of the list. I've found letting a list wander is a lot more 
productive than playing topic-nazi; the list is pretty good at warning 
me when it wanders too far or heads away from what the list-consensus is 
willing to do. The only exception to that is -- the busier the list, the 
narrower the focus. So when a list is grinding away at some on-topic 
issue and generating traffic, I manage off the side-discussions. On a 
list in between arguments, I let that stuff through more. It helps 
people get to know each other over time, and I think it reduces the 
flamability of a list, since they're less anonymous addresses to each 
other.

But that's only if the list shows an interest in developing some 
community interest. If not, not. But I let the list define that.

> So, where do you draw the line?

where I try to draw it these days is whether what's being said is 
relevant to the people on the list, not strictly whether it's on-topic. 
The list lets me know when I guess wrong, and I try to remember that the 
next time. And a virus warning might well be relevant, even on a hockey 
list, especially if lots of list members are getting nailed -- but that 
still doesn't mean any of the other stuff Nick worriesa bout magically 
becomes relevant because some piece of it does. By managing to the 
list's interests around the topic, it gives the list a lot more 
flexibility to be what it decides to be, while limiting the need to be 
hard-ass about it. It's more work, though, and it requires you to keep 
in touch with the members a lot.

>
> Stay off the slippery slope.  If your topic excludes it, just say no.
>

Life is a slippery slope. You can live life without risk, but it's a 
pretty boring life. By adding some subjectivity and judgement and 
self-policing into a list, it adds some risk of abuse, or at least 
arguments when those judgements differ (but that's why I always reserve 
the "because I said so" veto -- ultimately, I win if you push it that 
far), but you get a lot more out of it as well.

sometimes it blows up in your face, too. But I think it's worth the 
risk. I like the rewards.


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