Willam and all,
Yes, let do clear the air indeed. The IETF may not realize IPv8, and indeed
this is true, and points to one of several problems that the IETF currently has,
as it does not necessarily recognize other efforts frequently. Hence one
of many reasons why a need a more broad approach in Internet resource
management is necessary and the movement to the privatization of the
Internet central resources, in which IP allocation and development
is one such area...
William X. Walsh wrote:
> On 02-Feb-99 Marsh, Miles (Gene) wrote:
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> > IPv8 does offer potential solutions for Internet addressing schema and
> > domain space issues. There has, however, been no constructive
> > discussion about it in many months. This is an attempt to re-open the
> > discussion without putting those discussions on the existing lists.
> > If you feel there is benefit or reason to create and maintain a
> > separate discussion list for IPv8 within the IETF or ISOC structures,
> > please advise.
>
> OK, time for an airing out here.
>
> IPv8 is NOT an official IP Addressing project of ANY sort. It was created
> by Jim Fleming, who has the following as some of his track record :
>
> 1) Registered the domain dot.am at one point, and placed up pages that made
> false claims about associations with the .AM registry, and with others. Once
> these details were made public, he deleted the domain, and removed the
> webpages. The .AM hostmaster posted publicly that the comments on Jim's
> webpage there were false, and that no relationship existed between them except
> in that Jim had registered the dot.am domain with them.
>
> 2) IPv8 has NO official standing as a project in any of the technical forums in
> which new protocols and addressing schemes are debated. These technical forums
> have soundly rejected the principle of Mr Flemings attempt to force his own
> limited view of how the internet should work on to all of us.
>
> 3) IPv8 has its most support from a number of "alternative" TLD/root-server
> operators who are also operating outside of any authority to operate their
> TLDs. They like the IPv8 plan because it would legitimize their efforts without
> any process of review or standards. (this does not mean that all alternative
> TLD operators support Fleming's proposals).
>
> I am spelling all of this out because Mr Marsh has attempted to make IPv8
> appear as a perfectly legitimate project, and ignores the fact it has NO
> support whatsoever in the Internet technical community, and indeed is quite
> flawed according to them. It has no support amongst any of the recognized
> groups of stakeholders.
>
> Mr Marsh knew that there was no one person who "controls" this list, and that
> it would be difficult to have any action taken against him here for posting
> such a blatent advertisement for something that, by his own admission, is off
> topic for this list. He took advantage of that. Had he posted that to any of
> the other lists, I expect he would of been strong warned at the very least.
> Many other lists (including marketing related lists) would of bounced him off
> immediately for it.
>
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> E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 01-Feb-99
> Time: 16:50:56
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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