It is not my position to speak for the IATLD, I am not a member.
On 07-Feb-99 John Charles Broomfield wrote:
>
> Hi William,
> There's no doubt at all about where my support is, but it's not that
> which I'm calling in doubt. The company I work for as CTO was one of the
> original signatories of the gTLD-MoU. I do wear two hats, one that of ISP,
> and the other that of tech-contact for ".gp" & ".mq", though the GP & Mq NIC
> has recently been incorporated as a non-profit membership organisation, so
> any support or not for movements is not just the decision of a single person
> (not mine not Patrick, nor Claude for Martinique).
> From the beginning I did think that the POC/PAB/CORE attempt was
> less than perfect but a good way to go.
>
> Having said that, put up or shut up. Can we see your 73 endorsements from
> your 73 ccTLDs? Or is the iaTLD to be grouped together with INEGroup?
> More specifically, can we see (for example put them on the web) those
> endorsements to the Paris draft? Or are you lot just enjoying yourselves
> adding names of unsuspecting corporations/ccTLDs who know nothing about what
> the hell is going on.
>
> Seeing that instead of proving me wrong you prefer to cast doubts on my
> character (ie, attack the person instead of the questions posed), it would
> seem very similar to the denials of a certain 85,000 member group CEO...
> (you know, ask him a question he can't wriggle out of and he'll attack you
> back).
>
> Yours, John Broomfield.
>
> > It should be pointed out that Mr Broomfield has from day one tried to cast
> > aspersions on the character of the iaTLD and that he is indeed a long time
> > CORE
> > supporter, and his comments should be taken in that light. As someone who
> > participated in the original posts on wwTLD and apTLD lists regarding the
> > IATLD
> > and RFC1591 discussions I can say that it was made ABUNDANTLY clear and I
> > have
> > the archives I can place on the web to prove it, and to show the bias of Mr
> > Bloomfield from the beginning.
> >
> > On 06-Feb-99 John Charles Broomfield wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > > Ok, I've said this privately a few times and now I've had enough. I
> > > haven't
> > > read (yet) either the Paris draft or the BMW draft. However there is one
> > > thing that seems screwed about the process involved in the Paris draft
> > > (note: something screwed about the PROCESS).
> > > I've just been to http://dnso.association.org to see who endorses it,
> > > and I
> > > find under the list of endorsing registries "Guadeloupe" (strange that
> > > Martinique isn't there seeing that they are both managed by the same
> > > non-profit organisation...).
> > > Why is Guadeloupe there? I presume it stems because the admin contact
> > > for
> > > Guadeloupe a while back replied to a message with the words "I support
> > > RFC-1591".
> > > I actually doubt that the IATLD is more than a front for a bunch (5?) of
> > > unscrupulous people. I question very strongly (until I see evidence of
> > > it)
> > > their so called involvement and support from all those ccTLDs (73 of
> > > them
> > > according to them).
> > > Patrick Raimond (the admin contact for ".gp") speaks reasonably good
> > > English. I saw the message he had received and it was asking for support
> > > of
> > > RFC-1591 in the ICANN bylaws (or something along those lines, in any
> > > case it
> > > wasn't clear). He said that he had understood the question to be if he
> > > supported RFC-1591. Obviously he DOES support RFC-1591, as I expect just
> > > about everyone else who runs any registry. In any case, it was not at
> > > all
> > > clear that it was an endorsement on behalf of the GP & MQ NIC. In other
> > > words, it was a personal question.
> > > I would imagine that the fluency in English of many contacts for other
> > > registries is less than that of Patrick, so it would seem that the so
> > > called
> > > support is actually quite fraudulent. IATLD is a fake.
> > >
> > > I request: get GP off your lists and your webpage. (I have no idea
> > > whether
> > > we will support the Paris draft or not, but that support is premature to
> > > see
> > > the least).
> > >
> > > Yours, John Broomfield.
> > > GP & MQ NIC.
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone. After catching up on some sleep, I have now made sure
> > > > that
> > > > the http://dnso.association.org/ web site is now up to date with the
> > > > complete draft of the Paris Draft Proposal, the cover letter and the
> > > > supporting letter from AIP, with the appendix of proposed edits that
> > > > couldn't make it in on time from AIP and NSI.
> > > >
> > > > The supporting organization list is up, as well, along with the contact
> > > > email for suggestions to the draft (which we are archiving) -
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the official list for the Paris Draft -
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > If you are a supporting organization, or think you may want to be one,
> > > > please review the supporting organizations page to make sure we have
> > > > your
> > > > information correctly. Please make sure we have the URL, and, if it
> > > > says
> > > > "<Description Forthcoming>", we need your brief one-paragraph
> > > > organizational
> > > > description. Please send these to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > > I want to say thank you to everyone involved in this process, and I
> > > > look
> > > > forward to moving forward in this open forum in bringing together the
> > > > various drafts that were submitted. It is my hope that we can come
> > > > closer
> > > > and ideally merge multiple drafts out there before the Singapore
> > > > meeting.
> > > >
> > > > And now, on that note, I'm going to go catch up on some sleep. Have a
> > > > great
> > > > weekend, everyone!
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Andrew Kraft
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Q. Kraft, MAIP
> > > > Executive Director, Association of Internet Professionals (AIP)
> > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Phone: 310-724-6589
> > > > More Info: http://www.association.org/
> > > >
> >
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> > E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 06-Feb-99
> > Time: 12:32:12
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> > "We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
> > of lawyers, hungry as locusts."
> > - Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977
> >
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E-Mail: William X. Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 06-Feb-99
Time: 18:49:11
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"We may well be on our way to a society overrun by hordes
of lawyers, hungry as locusts."
- Chief Justice Warren Burger, US Supreme Court, 1977
