Stef and all,

Einar Stefferud wrote:

> No, I meant SELECTED, after the BoD members are elected, they select
> and appoint their Chair from outside, and this chair serves at the
> pleasure of the BoD.

  Well it seems more open and transparent as well as accountable in
our opinion that the Chair should be ELECTED either by the BoD
ore by the membership.  What might be even more inclusive and
thereby transparent and accountable, would be for the Chair to be
Selected by the BoD and than stand for ELECTION by the At-Large
or general membership.

  In addition the BoD should serve the Membership, not the Membership
Serve the BOD, and thus, the Chair should serve the Membership
as a go-between for the Membership and the BoD.  In this way, and
as far as we can determine, the only way in which the BOD and the Char
will meet the requirements of the White Paper as being Transparent,
Open, accountable, and a "Bottom-Up" membership determined and driven
organization.  Anything less than this is both divisive and a poor
contrivance.

>
>
> As for nooot being able to do anything with more than 10 or less than
> 100 members (or a board), I am referring to the obeservation that as
> soon as you have more then ten board or committee members, things get
> more complicated with need for staff and support funtions and such,
> until you get to a full size with 100 people involved with supporting
> the BoD;-)...

  Well in my company we have 30 board members, and have no problems
that you are indicating indirectly here.

>
>
> ~Thjsi is indeed rather tongue in cheek, but I have found that any
> such board or committee has problems arranging meetings and getting
> work done if it has more than 10 members.

  In some cases this is true if those members are not dedicated and
unpaid and that their are no provisions in the Bylaws to encourage
attendance and no performance standards set.  I have been involved
in putting together 4 fairly large companies/organizations both for
profit and non-profit as well as employee owned, privately held
companies also.  "Getting work Done" is really based on the QUALITY
and professionalism of those individuals, rather than pure numbers
o individuals as the make up of the BoD.  The BoD, if held responsible
to the At-large membership, will perform accordingly, and even better
performance could be attained should their compensation be tied
to their attendance and performance.

>
>
> So, I am biased toward seeking ways to cap the number of members at
> 10.

  Well we would submit that setting this arbitrary number is premature and
partly without sound known business norms an practice.

>
>
> Cheers...\Stef
>
> >From your message Wed, 06 Jan 1999 18:02:29 +0000:
> }
> }Stef and all,
> }
> }Einar Stefferud wrote:
> }
> }> BTW, I also propose that the BoD only have 10 members, plus a
> }> nonmember Cahir selected by the members.
> }
> }  Do you mean Chair here Stef?  And do you also mean ELECTED, not
> }Selected?  Please clarify.
> }
> }>
> }>
> }> The applied principle is that you cannot do anything with more than 10
> }> or less than 100 members.
> }
> }  Why?  We have over 80k members and we sure don't have any problems.
> }If you automate things correctly and set up a good voting process and
> }procedure it isn't that big of a problem.  Of course if you don't, than you
> }will
> }have plenty of problems with coordination.
> }
> }>
> }>
> }> Cheers...\Stef
> }>
> }> On Tue, 05 Jan 1999 23:47:27 -0800 I wrote:
> }>
> }> } My candidate constituencies for a DNSO are:
> }> }
> }> } 1.  Root Service Providers
> }> }
> }> } 2.  ccTLD registries
> }> }
> }> } 3.  gTLD  registries
> }> }
> }> } 4.  Registrar Service Providers (includes ISPs)
> }> }
> }> } 5.  DNS Zone Administrators at any level (SLD and lower)
> }> }
> }> } 6.  TM Interest Organizations
> }> }
> }> } 7.  Public Interest Organizations
> }> }
> }> } 8.  ISPs
> }> }
> }> } 9.  General Public Individuals
> }> }
> }> } 10. Other Commercial Interest Organizations.
> }> }
> }> } Now, with this much fragmentation, it woudl require that three
> }> } constituencies form an alliance in order to have 30% of the BoD votes,
> }> } and so none of these constituencies and seriously control the BoD.
> }> }
> }
> }Regards,
> }
> }--
> }Jeffrey A. Williams
> }CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> }Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> }E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> }Contact Number:  972-447-1894
> }Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> }
> }
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