William X. Walsh wrote:
Sunday, August 22, 1999, 5:02:47 PM, Planet Communications Computing Facility <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Even the right to privacy with respect to the ownership of property> As I expected there are no gurantees. The issue is not weither the
> Berkman Center is composed of angels - or fruits aging in fine wine, it is
> privacy, a right granted to democratic societies.Really?
This "right to privacy" only goes so far. When it comes to many areas
of our society, there is no right to privacy. For example, property
ownership is a matter of public record, and indeed there are companies
who specialize in compiling data from the various country halls of
records and placing them into a searchable database.
is guaranteed should you choose to exercise it. I have done so on
many occasions, and do so today. Methods of exercising that right
vary from state to state in the US that will meet the Federal Guidelines
for doing so. I use a Named Property Trust, for instance to do so.
There are of course other methods of course... So this example
with respect to property and its implications on privacy is a weak
argument.
This is just oneI will bet you any amount you desire you will not find any property I own
of MANY public databases used by companies such as 1800ussearch.com to
locate people.
or have ever owned at 1800ussearch.com. I know of at least 100 other
folks that this would be true for also.
True. Very true.There are NUMEROUS other areas. Privacy and anonymity are not one in
the same.
Try and enter a proceeding of Congress withoutUnless invited, this is true. I have done so however when invited, as
identification sometime, and without being logged in. See how far
this "right to anonymity" goes in public proceedings such as that.
I refused to sigh in. The congressional security folks balked at first,
I said fine, than I shall leave. They relented...
No it is not, William. JeffM's concern was in response to someIt is really anonymity you are fighting for rather than privacy.
posts exchanged with Ben Edelman with respect to collecting information
regarding individuals "Without their consent or even knowledge", that is
not "anonymity". Now you could say that this is splitting hairs, and maybe it
is. but as has been pointed out over and over again "The devil is in the details",
so to speak!
AndTHis is fine. But what Ben Edelman was eluding to is far more than
in that area we have to place real limits on that. We have seen the
abuses that can arise from anonymity on these very lists. I say that
if someone wants to be a participant, then they have an obligation to
register their participation and to have their name and affiliation
attached to their comments.
this. And this seems to be where JeffM's concern is, and rightly so!
GIving your name is sufficient. Anything more than that is questionable.This is inline with many areas of public policy where government
meetings are conducted as well. For example, in our City Council,
before you are allowed to address the Council openly, you must
identify yourself.
This may be your evaluation. And that is just fine. Some of us don't orThese concerns are nothing more than an area to try and be nitpicky
and to find any possible fault whatsoever, for the sake of having a
plethora of things to point to as criticisms.
may not agree with your evaluation or characterization, and take these
matters a bit more seriously than you seem to here...
Agreed! Nothing is more QUALITATIVE than a persons PRIVACY,I say its not the quantity of criticisms, but the QUALITY of the
criticisms that is important.
to my knowledge!
They need to stand up on their ownAgreed completely! And PRIVACY certainly has MERIT!
merits, not as a huge body of complaints that gain legitimacy because
of their sheer number.
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