They're looking for developers. They choose Gainesville because it has a flow of high tech trained talent, space, and probably for a number of other business reasons.
Sure, they don't have to pay Palo Alto rates here, but I'm sorry that 400+ jobs at 80K-ish still isn't positive enough for you. And by the way, the cost of a lunch at subway isn't going to buy you lunch for a week in India, especially not Bangalore. My wife is from Kolkata. I've been to India (all over) 6 or 7 times in the past 10 years (vacation and work). I invite you to visit because it's a great country. Just bring some extra $ because it's going to cost you more than you think. Dan -- Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Open Standard http://gplus.to/dantrevino On Apr 23, 2012 7:35 PM, "Tim Holloway" <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 18:10 -0400, Dan Trevino wrote: > > A somewhat more positive story about software development and > > gainesville/uf. > > > > http://www.gainesville.com/article/20120327/articles/120329611 > > It is and it isn't. MindTree is based out of Bangalore, India and what > they are doing is symptomatic of the times. First we sent jobs by the > scores off-shore. Then it turned out that many of those offshore project > needed feet on the ground locally, Some of that could be managed by > shipping in H1-B or L-1 talent, but lately the H-1B in particular has > come under a lot of scrutiny, so the Indians are hiring native talent. > > The choice of Gainesville was probably as much because of its value as a > "near-shoring" location as it was because of the educational facilities. > Although there are some venerable technology companies located in > Gainesville such as Barr, it's not a major high-tech hub. But it does > have a semi-rural cost of living, which is a major point for > near-shoring. No place in the USA can compete with India on cost of > living - the price of a sandwich, chips and Coke at Subway would buy > lunch for a week in Bangalore, but rural locations can get closer than > high-rent districts like Silicon Valley and Boston. > > For the record, I have no complaint with what MindTree or, for that > matter, any of the other Indian companies are doing (disclaimer: I own > stock in some of them). However, the forces that helped form endeavors > like this are the selfsame forces that continue to put downward pressure > on what had once been a very comfortable profession. Those forces are > ultimately ourselves. > > Tim > > > > On Apr 23, 2012 5:39 PM, "A.Padilla" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Can't look at it as a trade. CS is a good degree but it won't > > > guarantee you riches. It's what you do with the degree that > > > determines how you'll end up. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Tim Holloway <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > I went 1 term at UF and never did do a CS class there. I left because > > > > while there are a lot of appealing things about a large and complex > > > > school and I enjoyed the academics and cultural facilities, the > student > > > > were entirely too grim. I could have found a friendlier crowd in > > > > Manhattan at rush hour. Of course, I was also pushing 30 at the time, > > > > which meant that by the reckoning of most students I was in the > advanced > > > > stages of mummification. > > > > > > > > Even back then, their programs struck me as a little odd, being split > > > > mostly between the engineering and business schools. They also hadn't > > > > yet discovered the C Programming Language, even though I'd been > teaching > > > > it at FJC a year or so earlier. Still, my jaw dropped when I read the > > > > news about UF dismantling its CS department. > > > > > > > > I first heard of UCF at a meeting of the UF ACM chapter. Every year > > > > there's a programming contest, and UCF was considered a Force to Be > > > > Reckoned With. Later, I moved down to Orlando and transferred to UCF > and > > > > found out why. While I'm not a big fan of programming contests as a > > > > measure of ability, the UCF ACM had a well-honed machine, and it > > > > routinely did well against big-league competitors like MIT and > > > > Singapore. > > > > > > > > I have a lot of respect for UCF's CS and engineering programs, even > > > > though circumstances kept me from ever graduating. UCF also > established > > > > a proper research park in its vicinity. UNF tried to, but about the > best > > > > they could manage was an AOL call center. Speaking of which, I'm > sorry > > > > to report that I haven't exactly been inundated with volunteers on my > > > > own little pet geek project. Are we really THAT primitive around > here? > > > > > > > > Anyway, regardless of the relative merits of various colleges, the > > > > brutal fact is that CS is not the best of career choices anymore. I > > > > think we've pretty much bottomed out on the offshoring thing, but > that > > > > doesn't mean that Happy Days are Here Again, or likely to be so > anytime > > > > soon. While it should be relatively easy to enter the field while > you're > > > > still at the bottom of your earnings potential and willing to work > > > > insane hours, age discrimination and the Wal-Mart effect on salaries > > > > mean that paying off that student loan may prove difficult. Not that > > > > there are a whole lot of other professions that can offer more hope > > > > right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 > > > > RSS Feed > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml > > > > Unsubscribe [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 > > > RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml > > > Unsubscribe [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Archive http://marc.info/?l=jaxlug-list&r=1&w=2 > RSS Feed http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml > Unsubscribe [email protected] > >
