So it doesn't need to be in the description really...

Yes that's what was throwing me. It implies you can only boot from SD by adding 
it to a USB adapter. 


> On Aug 27, 2014, at 13:25, Espen Johansen <pfse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> If I may...
> I think Ryan is confused about the usb part. The SD slot is a onboard slot 
> but its not connnected/wired to IDE/SATA bus, but rather it is connected to 
> the USB bus just as a external usb card reader would be,  but offcource its 
> onboard and hardwired. Thus the confusion I assume.
> 
> 27. aug. 2014 20:01 skrev "Jim Thompson" <j...@netgate.com> følgende:
>> Ryan,
>> 
>> I’m not sure what you’re asking.
>> 
>> This thread started off with Sergii Cherkashyn asking if running on an SSD 
>> was advisable.
>> 
>> Obviously, it works, or we wouldn’t offer it. (The thread Sergii pointed-to 
>> is from early 2011.  Netgate did not ship SSDs for several
>> years because the reliability *then* was so poor.  The situation changed, 
>> and, once quality SSDs were available (*with power-fail capacitors, etc.*),
>> we began offering same.
>> 
>> Then you jumped in asking (is) “SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?”
>> 
>> I honestly though you were trolling.   Since there is a configuration of the 
>> APU units available for sale both at the Netgate store *and* the pfSense 
>> store (http://store.pfsense.org) that does not include a m-sata drive, how 
>> else could the system boot pfSense?
>> 
>> Now you post on a public list, (a list about pfSense), asking me to change 
>> an unspecified page on (I assume), the Netgate site.
>> 
>> Setting aside the whole issue of why we’re talking about this on-list, I 
>> can’t find the text that confused you.
>> 
>> Here is what I found on the Netgate site:
>> 
>> http://store.netgate.com/APU1C4.aspx says: "Boot from SD card (connected 
>> through USB), external USB or m-SATA SSD.”
>> http://store.netgate.com/APU1C.aspx says: "Boot from SD card (connected 
>> through USB), external USB or m-SATA SSD."
>> 
>> You may wish to note that this language exactly matches that found on the PC 
>> Engines site:
>>         "Boot from SD card (connected through USB), external USB or m-SATA 
>> SSD.”
>> 
>> ref: http://pcengines.ch/apu.htm, and http://pcengines.ch/apu1c.htm,
>> 
>> and page 9 of the schematic for the APU 
>> (http://pcengines.ch/schema/apu1c.pdf) clearly shows that the “SD card 
>> interface” runs through a Alcore Micro AU6465 
>> (http://www.alcormicro.com/en_content/c_product/product_01b.php?CategoryID=7&IndexID=19)
>>  to USB6 on the AMD T40 SoC.
>> 
>> If you will be so kind as to make a specific request for change of the 
>> language you found confusing, I’ll take a look at it.
>> You might even send such a request to me in-private, so as not to further 
>> clutter the list.
>> 
>> Right now, I can’t find a problem.
>> 
>> JIm
>> 
>> 
>> > On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Understood. Thank you for the clarification.
>> >
>> > Would it be possible to have the description updated on the sales page? It 
>> > only says you can boot via SD through USB.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ryan Coleman
>> > ryanjc...@me.com
>> > m. 651.373.5015
>> > o. 612.568.2749
>> >
>> > On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:24, Jim Thompson <j...@netgate.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Yes, the system can be booted from an SD (or SDHC) card.  Or from USB, or 
>> >> from the m-SATA.
>> >>
>> >> All of these require proper preparation of the requisite ‘disk’ (-like 
>> >> device).
>> >>
>> >> Jim
>> >>
>> >>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I understand *that* however it doesn't say on the features page it can 
>> >>> be booted off the SD slot - is that true? If so I have to change a few 
>> >>> quotes I have in play as they will need to get mSATA SSDs instead.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 9:20, Jim Thompson <j...@smallworks.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The SD (SDHC describes some cards which work in the slot) card slot is 
>> >>>> a “base feature”.   If people choose to fit a m-SATA drive,
>> >>>> then they can.  Or they can use the SD card socket.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It’s not like we’re going to de-solder the SD card socket if it’s not 
>> >>>> going to be used.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Neither are we going to carry two different SKUs (one with, one 
>> >>>> without).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jim
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Why not answer the question?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:56, Jim Thompson <j...@netgate.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ryan,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Don't troll.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Aug 27, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Ryan Coleman <ryanjc...@me.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Wait, so the SDHC slot on this board is simply for show?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 13:56, Sergii Cherkashyn 
>> >>>>>>> <ser...@accurategroup.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Thank you Espen,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Squid is for filtering purpose only, not to save bandwidth.
>> >>>>>>>> On Netgate they have only this SSD as an option. But I’ll keep your 
>> >>>>>>>> advice in mind.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best regards,
>> >>>>>>>> Sergii Cherkashyn
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 20:45:46 +0200
>> >>>>>>>> From: Espen Johansen <pfse...@gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>> To: pfSense support and discussion <list@lists.pfsense.org>
>> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [pfSense] Netgate APU2 SSD module question
>> >>>>>>>> Message-ID:
>> >>>>>>>>                 
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>> >>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I personally don't think you will have an issue with too many 
>> >>>>>>>> writes in a normal environment. Why squid tho? if its for filtering 
>> >>>>>>>> fine. For acceleration and 3-6 persons it will most likely not do 
>> >>>>>>>> you much good.
>> >>>>>>>> Also check MLC vs SLC. SLC based SSD will last longer. 
>> >>>>>>>> Approximately 10 times longer. And even more with the right write 
>> >>>>>>>> leveling tech.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>> >>>>>>>>
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